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Maximum wage

If, as Lisa suggested in an earlier post, the highest paid person(s) should be capped at 20x the lowest paid person(s) pay the current $7.25 minimum wage would result in a $302,325.00 maximum pay. Many CEO's are paid much less than that already, and by their own choosing. A $15.00 minimum wage would then allow a $625,500.00 maximum wage.
If we're going to employ the word democracy in our form of government then I would suggest that we, of varying political leanings, begin to exercise our majority in numbers to work toward achieving a consensus on what we collectively will agree on allowing our government representatives to do once elected, regardless of political party. While politicians may feel a responsibility to those who fund their campaigns, it is the individuals who voted for them that they are supposed to represent and we as voters should be making our voices heard above and beyond the lobbyists. Perhaps an amendment providing a recall referendum of elected Federal politicians is something needed?
In the meantime, I'll continue to take advantage of the opportunities presented by which ever party is in control of our Federal government while avoiding any costly impediments.
 
Individual said:
If, as Lisa suggested in an earlier post, the highest paid person(s) should be capped at 20x the lowest paid person(s) pay the current $7.25 minimum wage would result in a $302,325.00 maximum pay. Many CEO's are paid much less than that already, and by their own choosing. A $15.00 minimum wage would then allow a $625,500.00 maximum wage.
If we're going to employ the word democracy in our form of government then I would suggest that we, of varying political leanings, begin to exercise our majority in numbers to work toward achieving a consensus on what we collectively will agree on allowing our government representatives to do once elected, regardless of political party. While politicians may feel a responsibility to those who fund their campaigns, it is the individuals who voted for them that they are supposed to represent and we as voters should be making our voices heard above and beyond the lobbyists. Perhaps an amendment providing a recall referendum of elected Federal politicians is something needed?
In the meantime, I'll continue to take advantage of the opportunities presented by which ever party is in control of our Federal government while avoiding any costly impediments.
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Lobbyists, big money, and big power runs America. We're peons. And it's been getting worse.
 
Antiwar said:
Lobbyists, big money, and big power runs America. We're peons. And it's been getting worse.
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And what are we voters doing collectively to change that?
 
Individual said:
And what are we voters doing collectively to change that?
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I don't think you're progressive, but to me the progressives (a small percentage of Democrats) are working on that. The People have very little political power; I say America was designed that way. The real changes have come from long struggles with people protesting and more.
 
Antiwar said:
Minimum wage => maximum rage.

We need a maximum wage tied to the minimum wage.
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sure

you go tell Lebron James he has to play ball for 250k annually.....and the rest goes to everyone else

let's see what he says
 
gdgyva said:
sure

you go tell Lebron James he has to play ball for 250k annually.....and the rest goes to everyone else

let's see what he says
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Man, that's an odd job and contract salary to pick.
 
Antiwar said:
I don't think you're progressive, but to me the progressives (a small percentage of Democrats) are working on that. The People have very little political power; I say America was designed that way. The real changes have come from long struggles with people protesting and more.
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Are you a progressive?
If you're atop a steep sided high mountain lacking food and water which can only be found at the bottom, it may take much careful planning and slow progress to get there safely or you could ignore any existing danger and hope that you arrive alive or at least not too injured.
I prefer to take into account all variables known to exist, pausing and correcting any mistakes as found necessary in order to progress towards any goal.
The people had much more political power when the country was first founded, the most fundamental change took place in 1913 as a result of the 16th and 17th amendments along with the Federal Reserve Act.
 
Antiwar said:
Minimum wage => maximum rage.

We need a maximum wage tied to the minimum wage.
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That will result in wealthy people abandoning US citizenship. It will also slash income tax revenue which gets most of its revenue from the wealthy. People will also have less motivation to start a business and be successful which will hurt the economy. A better idea is just to raise taxes on the wealthy.
 
j brown's body said:
A CEO'S salary should have a ceiling in relation to the floor.
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If you were to implement that kind of ceiling in a fair way that reflects the impact a CEO can have on a company compared to the lowest-paid worker there, that ceiling would need to be something ludicrous like 100,000x the lowest-paid worker's salary for the largest companies. At that point why bother having one at all?
 
Individual said:
Are you a progressive?
If you're atop a steep sided high mountain lacking food and water which can only be found at the bottom, it may take much careful planning and slow progress to get there safely or you could ignore any existing danger and hope that you arrive alive or at least not too injured.
I prefer to take into account all variables known to exist, pausing and correcting any mistakes as found necessary in order to progress towards any goal.
The people had much more political power when the country was first founded, the most fundamental change took place in 1913 as a result of the 16th and 17th amendments along with the Federal Reserve Act.
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Yes, I'm progressive. There's no legitimate reason to proceed slowly. None. The planet is becoming more chaotic. If we don't make radical changes, they say radical bad changes are very likely to happen. More diseases (did Covid-19 get your attention?), more migration, crop failures, etc, etc.

The People had very little power when the country was first "founded." Who voted for the "founding" of the country?
 
molten_dragon said:
If you were to implement that kind of ceiling in a fair way that reflects the impact a CEO can have on a company compared to the lowest-paid worker there, that ceiling would need to be something ludicrous like 100,000x the lowest-paid worker's salary for the largest companies. At that point why bother having one at all?
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A salary that's 100,000 times the lowest wage isn't ludicrous?
 
distraff said:
That will result in wealthy people abandoning US citizenship. It will also slash income tax revenue which gets most of its revenue from the wealthy. People will also have less motivation to start a business and be successful which will hurt the economy. A better idea is just to raise taxes on the wealthy.
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That will result in wealthy people abandoning US citizenship. It will also slash income tax revenue which gets most of its revenue from the wealthy. People will also have less motivation to start a business and be successful which will hurt the economy.
 
What are we going to do when automation takes over more and more of the jobs? The "job creators" won't need as many parasitic human workers. They'll own "the means of production." Do you think they'll be generous with the "surpluses" of the natural and unnatural world? Or will they be "the big meanies of production"? What say you, "worthless eaters"? Will you "pull yourself up by your bootstraps"? Will you suffer with dignity?
 
Antiwar said:
Yes, I'm progressive. There's no legitimate reason to proceed slowly. None. The planet is becoming more chaotic. If we don't make radical changes, they say radical bad changes are very likely to happen. More diseases (did Covid-19 get your attention?), more migration, crop failures, etc, etc.

The People had very little power when the country was first "founded." Who voted for the "founding" of the country?
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I don't know who 'they' are, nor have you defined what radical changes you are referring to.
Government at the founding was primarily local government.
 
Individual said:
I don't know who 'they' are, nor have you defined what radical changes you are referring to.
Government at the founding was primarily local government.
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They are the people that study things scientifically. The radical changes are how we function on Earth while destroying Earth and beings: energy, transportation, food, war, financial, materials, etc, etc.
 
Antiwar said:
Because a tiny percentage of the population owns more wealth than the rest, combined. And those mother****ers control much of the world, ****ing things up.


Attempted trap question detected. Bring something better.

Answer: Yes and no.
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Nobody is stopping you from being successful.

Why are you scared of being successful?
 
Antiwar said:
They are the people that study things scientifically. The radical changes are how we function on Earth while destroying Earth and beings: energy, transportation, food, war, financial, materials, etc, etc.
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And what IS the scientific maximum wage?
 
Antiwar said:
Because a tiny percentage of the population owns more wealth than the rest, combined. And those mother****ers control much of the world, ****ing things up.


Attempted trap question detected. Bring something better.

Answer: Yes and no.
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And those mother****ers control much of the world, ****ing things up.
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How so?

That evil 1% pay at least 40% of the fed income tax
 
Antiwar said:
Because a tiny percentage of the population owns more wealth than the rest, combined. And those mother****ers control much of the world, ****ing things up.
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Doesn't matter. Money isn't finite. It's created all the time. One person having a lot of does nothing to hinder your ability to also make a lot of it.

Attempted trap question detected. Bring something better.

Answer: Yes and no.
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More like you don't want to answer a perfect good question because you know it makes your ideology look like it's based off of pure envy.
 
Questerr said:
So Jeff Bezos is simply millions of times more skilled than the rest of his employees? You’re going to argue that?
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Did any of his employees create a multi-billion dollar business or just put a box on a conveyer belt or drive a truck?
 
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