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Massive Muslim inbreeding over 1,400 years may have ruined gene pool


So how again do you justify you're judgment of those things reserved to God? I'm speaking to you here as a fellow Christian btw.
 

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What a lame troll. Try harder

I'm not even going to bother responding with insults. I like and respect many Christians on this forum and wouldn't wish to insult them by attacking their faith
 
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Laila said:
:lamo

What a lame troll. Try harder

I'm not even going to bother responding with insults. I like and respect many Christians on this forum and wouldn't wish to insult them by attacking their faith
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Thank you for your reasonableness. I know you have almost 10K posts but I haven't ever seen you here, or maybe thats just my bad memory. But let me say, as a single individual catholic person, that you're free to worship however you want and by God if i'll every claim youre wrong because I know all the answers to faith and religion.
 

I worship not that which ye worship;
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

Right back at ya
 

Repeated for truth.
 
julietsm said:
These things are all Biblical and accepted by Christians world-wide.
You can single me out, I don't care. But this is the mindset of professing Christians.
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And it is this mind set that will eventually hurt Christianity. Pull the board out of your own eye.

julietsm said:
Islam is a false religion. We had a reformation because the Catholic church is corrupt and idolaters among other things.
These are things that we as Christians agree upon.
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Catholics are Christians as well, and Muslims worship the same God of the Old Testament we do. You are to caught up in mans law and not Gods wants for us.

And Jesus wept.
 
Blackdog said:
And it is this mind set that will eventually hurt Christianity. Pull the board out of your own eye.
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I'm glad there is at least a small segment of Christianity that understands this. One of the principal reasons I left Christianity were the people around me.
 
Hoplite said:
I'm glad there is at least a small segment of Christianity that understands this. One of the principal reasons I left Christianity were the people around me.
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I am noticing a trend with that. Many people leave because of the people, not the religion it's self.

Same reason I am non-denominational. Got real tired of people bickering over church law rather than accepting biblical precedent.
 
Blackdog said:
Catholics are Christians as well, and Muslims worship the same God of the Old Testament we do. You are to caught up in mans law and not Gods wants for us.
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Actually no. The God of Mohammed was not the Judeo-Christian God Yahweh, but the ancient hybrid Assyrio-Babylonian Moon god called Sin. In pagan pre-Islamic Mecca at the Kaa'ba the chief diety (along with 360 other pagan dieties) Sin was known as Hubal (who is mentioned also in the Qur'an). As each Arabian town had their own local chief god at their very own pagan Kaa'bas (there were more than just one Kaa'ba), these gods were known simply to the locals in these towns as Al-ilah (the god). All Mohammed did when creating his monotheistic religion based on all other pre-existing religions was tear down all the other pagan gods worshipped at the Kaa'ba (yet strangly he kept the black meteotite in place still to worship) and re-named Hubal (aka Sin) with the shortened name of Allah (god) from shortening the older local name for local chief dieties of Al-ilah (the god). Thus the chain from the moon god Sin/Hubal/Ali-ilah/Allah becomes complete.

As much as Mohammed wanted Allah to be seen as the same god as the Jews & the Christians, the truth when one looks back into Mohammeds own times is that Allah is not the same as Yahweh. And this is further clear when one looks at the religion that Allah instructed Mohammed to form, & the character of the prophet that Allah chose for this new religion.
 
Further, along with the moon god Sin/Hubal, whose symbol is a crescent moon obviously enough, the black meteorite, which is still worshipped in the Kaa'ba as in old pre-Islamic pagan Mecca, shows another Assyrio-Babylonian goddess who was worshipped there and that is the goddess Ishtar. Note how the container that holds the black meteorite is formed in the shape of a womans vagina. Why should this be? Well, Ishtars attributes were fertility, love, war & sex, so the shape of container seems fitting for this purpose.

So with Sin & Ishtar we see the roots of the true gods & goddesses who influenced Mohammed when he formed Islam not only from cherry picking all pre-existing monotheistic religions of the day, but also the older pagan ones too.

BTW: The symbol of Ishtar is the star, so where have we seen both the crescent moon (for Sin) & the star (Ishtar) used before to symbolise something?
 
Wiseone said:
So how again do you justify you're judgment of those things reserved to God? I'm speaking to you here as a fellow Christian btw.
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If you disagree with me about Islam being a false religion, then you are no Christian.
Nice try.
 

You are nothing but a person who has a serious superiority complex. I DARE YOU to prove ANY of the BS you just said about Islam.
 
apdst said:
However, Muslims stand united in excusing Muslim atrocities. Why is that?
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Could it have something to do with the exhortations to kill Jews, Christians, and Kuffar that might have something to do with it?
 
julietsm said:
If you disagree with me about Islam being a false religion, then you are no Christian.
Nice try.
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Wow this pathetic. So if anyone disagrees with you they are no Christian? I feel sad for you.
 
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Mr. Invisible said:
Wow this pathetic. So if anyone disagrees with you they are no Christian? I feel sad for you.
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Wait a minute; as a practicing Christian how can you claim to follow the true God, and then on the other hand also say "Well Allah is the true God too!", when clearly the words of Jesus himself tells us that it is only through him that one gets to the Lord ("I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you know me, you will know my Father also." John 14:6-7).

Sorry! If you want to put a new age spin on the New Testament & claim that others get to heaven also, even those who don't believe in Christ is ignoring the very heart of what Jeus & Christianity tells us. If you are a Christian you should know this already, so there is no ambiguity in Julietsm's statement if you are indeed a true Christian. You cannot claim that Islam is a true religion and also hold to the words of Jesus at the same time. One has to go, and that in this case is Islam itself.
 

Why are you putting words in my mouth? When did I ever say that I was a practicing Christian on this forum, ever?


NEWSFLASH:

All the stuff you are spewing, I never said.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
Why are you putting words in my mouth? When did I ever say that I was a practicing Christian on this forum, ever?


NEWSFLASH:

All the stuff you are spewing, I never said.
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Sorry for the confusion; I wasn't trying to imply you yourself were a practicing Christian. I meant that if anyone is a practicing Christian that Julietsm's statement would be correct because one cannot hold something else as true that the New Testament & the words of Jesus himself actually & clearly tell us as different. Of course I have no idea of your personal religious beliefs, or non-belief at all if your are an atheist or agnostic.
 

I accept your apology and apologize myself if you thought my words were to harsh, I am not a mean person, sometimes I just get angry when people have the truth available to them, but then refuse to go and look at it. Also, from that religious standpoint you just said, yes you would be correct.

Also, when it comes to God I acknowledge His existence, but I think organized religion is idiotic, pointless and sometimes almost a monetary scam.
 

I think we are arguing that nobody is superior.. are you arguing that you are superior?
 


Many Jews and Muslims get along and respect each others faiths.. My boyfriend is Jewish.. Well, he was born Jewish and he was born in Israel. He looks middle eastern and has a lot of Egyptian in him.. so, you know, he can be mistaken for a Muslim by some people. :2razz: :lol:
 

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I didn't know that. It is funny how the two religions many think oppose one another are quite close. If anything I'd say the likelihood is higher than Jews and Muslim worship the same God rather than Christians with either Jews or Muslims. It is a shame Judaism doesn't do missionary work
 
Seriously, the blatant Islamophobia on these boards is beginning to disturb me. You have fools who have not the slightest clue what they are talking about saying how Islam is such a horrible religion, when, if they just took the time to do some research, they'd fine that Islam is a totally alright religion.
 
Inbreeding was common in most parts of the pre-modern world, and is still practiced in many places. In most societies, the nobility wanted to keep blood lines pure and they did so by marrying cousins or even brother and sister. Most royal families in western europe, for example, were the products of inbreeding.

The OP is racist and there's little hiding it. Singling out Muslims with that kind of social darwinism is such eugenics-era thinking.
 

I am glad for both you & your boyfriend, & whilst this may be true to a certain degree in the west how do we overlook the fact that the closer one gets to a full Islamic society, with the majority of a countries populace being muslims, how do we account that this tolerance in the most generally disappears & Jews, Christians etc, are not so well recieved? If Islam is tolerant of other religions how is it that a large proportion of Islamic states forbid the building of any churches, synagogs or other places of worship? Are these so caled Islamic extremists really taking the Qur'an out of context when they call for a holy jihad against non-muslims?

If in this modern day and age Islam at heart IS a religion of peace then why do we not see this not only reflected in a reduction in terrorist attacks that it perpatrates against non muslims, but also against their fellow brothers & sisters too?
 
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