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Massive Muslim inbreeding over 1,400 years may have ruined gene pool

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GUANTANAMO BAY, Cuba - A Danish psychologist who believes Muslims are raised to be aggressive and that inbreeding has damaged their genes informed a damning expert opinion of the risk Omar Khadr poses to public safety, court heard Wednesday.

Under cross-examination by defence lawyers, Dr. Michael Welner said he talked to Nicolai Sennels before coming to the conclusion that the Canadian-born Khadr was "highly dangerous" — an opinion he gave Tuesday on the first day of Khadr's sentencing hearing.

Welner, a witness for the prosecution, said he admired Sennels for his work trying to help young Muslim inmates in Denmark and found him informative.
Psychologist critical of Muslim 'inbreeding' informed expert's opinion on Khadr - Winnipeg Free Press
 
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'Course, even people in Labour noticed something up: MUSLIM INBREEDING in Great Britain causing massive surge in birth defects « Bare Naked Islam's Weblog

And considering that Labour's one of the most politically-correct bunch of treasonous quasi-Marxists about, that really does say an awful lot.



And what's really frightening is that the religion of choice (by order) is best suited to be followed by retards in order to work to its best....

List of Islamic atrocities... (BY NO MEANS COMPLETE!)

1) 5 Islamic wars against Israel
2) Beslan massacre
3) September 11th attacks
4) Madrid Train bombings
5) July 7th bombings

6) Black September
7) Bombing of UN HQ in Algiers and Baghdad
8) Sectarian violence between Sunni's and Shia's
9) Christian school children mutilated by Muslim gangs in Indonesia
10) USS Cole attacks

11) Munich Olympics murder
12) Bombing of US Barracks in Beirut
13) US African embassy bombings
14) Lockerbie Air disaster
15) Bali, Sinai, Phillipines and Turkey bombings

16) Destruction of personal property and murder after Muhhammed cartoons (50, predominantly non-Muslims killed)
17) Gang wars between Hamas and Fatah
18) Number of honour killings in the name of Islam
19) Mass genocide of Armenians, before and during WW1
20) Genocide of native Abbsyrian's, Churches bombed and attacked throughout Baghdad.

21) Genocide of Kurds
22) Genocide of Christian Sudanese (DARFUR)
23) Thai and Indonesian non-Muslims slaughtered and beheaded in mass numbers
24) 10,000 Cars burnt in France, Muslim Immigrants rioting alongside far-left
25) Pro-Nazi chants at "Pro-Gaza/Palestine demo's across the world

26) Muslim gang rapes in Australia and Britain
27) Kidnapping and beheadings of journalists and foreign aid workers shown on the net
28) Trans-Arab slavery
29) Six thousand Jews were massacred in Fez of Morocco in 1033.
30) Hundreds of Jews were killed between 1010 and 1013 near Cordoba and other parts of Muslim Spain and an entire Jewish community of 4000 in Grenada was annihilated in 1066.


31) There were massacres of the Spanish Christians in and around Seville. Al-Hakim biamr Illah gave orders that the Churches of his dominions should be destroyed. A Muslim historian records that over 30,000 churches built by the Greeks in Egypt, Syria and elsewhere were destroyed, their contents seized and sold in the markets and lands confiscated.

32) Looting and destruction of many monasteries in Egypt while fleeing the Abbasid army. In the sacking of Euphesus in 781, 7,000 Greeks were taken captives and were deported en masse.

33) After the Islamic capture of Port of Debal in 712, the Muslim army slaughtered the inhabitants over three days and the priests of the temples were massacred.

34) 11th century also saw the barbaric assault of Sultan Mahmud of Ghazni on Hindustan starting in 1000 CE. He launched 17 plundering, looting and slave-taking expeditions to India. Sultan Mahmuds secretary, gloats in his official chronicle that after attacking Waihind in November 1001 CE, Mahmuds army slaughtered 15,000 fighting men in splendid action before capturing 500,000 men and women as slaves.

35) In 1195 when Raja Bhim was attacked by Aibak's Islamic army, he captured 20,000 slaves. In Aibaks attack of Kalinjar in 1202, 50,000 slaves were captured. During Aibaks rule of 20 Lunar years, he captured Hansi, Meerut, Delhi, Ranthambhor and Kol, which accompanied similar massacres, destruction and slave-taking.

36) The riots of 1321 in Cairo, in which several churches were destroyed, which in turn, set on destruction of churches throughout Egypt resulting in desecration of more than 50 churches.

37) In 1400, Timur devastated the country in and around Tifflis. In 1403, he returned to Tifflis to devastate the country again and destroyed the 700 large villages and minor towns, massacred the inhabitant and razed the Churches to the ground. Amir Timur thoroughly and systematically destroyed the Christians and as a result.

38) At Sivas, 4,000 Christians were buried alive; at Tus, there were 10,000 victims. Historians estimate the number of dead at Saray to be 100,000; at Baghdad 90,000 and at Isfahan 70,000

39) Over in Constantinople, Sultan Mehemet unleashed utter barbarism. When Constantinople fell to the Muslim army, the Sultan allowed his soldiers to massacre the population for three days.

40) In 1617 and 1622, the Jews of Persia were declared apostates and suffered a wave of forced conversion and persecution by Islamic supremacists

41) persecution of the Zoroastrians got worse in the 17th century. Persecutions included levying extra hefty taxes, frequent looting of their homes and properties, forcing them to wear distinctive clothing, prohibiting building new houses or repairing old ones.

42) 500-600 thousand people were killed during the rule of Akbar and Jahangir in India

43) in 1658, Akbar's great grandson Aurangzeb ascended the throne. He instituted Islamic Sharia as the ruling principle, reintroduced Jizya and launched a Jihadi campaign of forced conversion of the non-Muslims and destruction of non-Muslim religious institutions. Aurangzebs rule saw destruction of nearly 10,000 Hindu, Jain and Buddhist temples. In the campaign of 1679-1680, 123 temples were destroyed in Udaipur, 63 in Chittor, 66 in Jaipur
 
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'Course, even people in Labour noticed something up: MUSLIM INBREEDING in Great Britain causing massive surge in birth defects « Bare Naked Islam's Weblog

And considering that Labour's one of the most politically-correct bunch of treasonous quasi-Marxists about, that really does say an awful lot.



And what's really frightening is that the religion of choice (by order) is best suited to be followed by retards in order to work to its best....
You're like a broken record at this point. There's a list of Christian atrocities equally long. Christians are EVIL!!!1!
 

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The customary insult's there, with smear chucked at the Christians, but no actual rebuttal.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

Also, it wasn't a smear chucked at Christians. It was deliberate hyperbole meant to illustrate just how ridiculous your opinion is.
 

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What would a psychologist know about genetics?

I seriously doubt inbreeding drives aggression in the Islamic world. Marrying first cousins was comparatively common in the West until a couple hundred years ago, and negative consequences of inbreeding tend to be acute rather than generalized. That Muslims have been allowed to marry first cousins a couple generations more isn't decisive. Furthermore, cultural conditioning is sufficient to explain the hostile responses seen in the Muslim community.
 
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OK. Let's investigate that.

If we assume, for the argument, that inbreeding doesn't drive aggression in the Islamic world.

Would the common factor be Islam itself, perchance?
 

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OK. Let's investigate that.

If we assume, for the argument, that inbreeding doesn't drive aggression in the Islamic world.

Would the common factor be Islam itself, perchance?
It's been rehashed a thousand times. Islam is not a single group of people who all think and act the same, any more than Christianity is.

Islamic Extremist:Islam
as
KKK:Christianity

Why do you hold this double standard? Why do other religions get to wave off their violent factions and history as just a fringe group of nutcases, but Islam doesn't?

edit: and I reject everything the article in the OP claims. Gonna need to see a peer-reviewed research study on this "inbreeding."
 
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In a nutshell, which has also been said before (and will contunue to be), Islam was designed to be the supremacist nutter's religion whilst Christianity wasn't.

Thus idiots like the KKK are rightfully on the tiny minority fringe whilst the fruitcakes of Islam take its thrones and impose its tyranny.

Why else, for example, are British mosques exposed on TV for being run by 'extremists' funded by the Saudi authorities?
 

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And what's really frightening is that the religion of choice (by order) is best suited to be followed by retards in order to work to its best....
Good point ROP. Way to keep the hate alive. Wasn't Hitler saying the same things about the Jews? What do you suggest we do?

 

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When you replace the word "Muslims" with "Southern conservatives" in that article, it becomes much more profound.

“Mississippi, USA- An American psychologist who believes Southern conservatives are raised to be aggressive and that inbreeding has damaged their genes informed a damning expert opinion of the risk Southern conservatives pose to public safety, court heard Wednesday…
"If a Southern conservative does not react aggressively when criticized he is seen as weak, not worth trusting and he thus loses social status immediately," Sennels wrote. In another article, Sennels, 34, attributed a host of problems within the Southern conservative world to intermarriage among first cousins. "Massive inbreeding within the Southern conservative culture during the last 350 years may have done catastrophic damage to their gene pool." Sennels has also stated that Southern conservative integration into the ever increasing liberal United States is not possible, a view Welner called "political”…Welner had testified on Tuesday that Southern conservatives are only interested in the Bible and had shown little interest in other western literature.”
 

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When you replace the word "Muslims" with "Southern conservatives" in that article, it becomes much more profound (sic).
Oh yes, much more the kind of thing you want to hear. Much more libellous, far more removed from the sting of truth which burns the liberal-left the same as holy water.


We can take that further and say Southern conservatives flew planes into New York, Southern conservatives try to blow up airports and railway yards, Southern conservatives set European cities ablaze and gang-rape non Southern conservative women.
 

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OK. Let's investigate that.

If we assume, for the argument, that inbreeding doesn't drive aggression in the Islamic world.

Would the common factor be Islam itself, perchance?
In a way. Like, how a klyptomanic's probability of stealing increases in the presence of easily pocketable knicknacks. But when humans are acting well or badly, it is mostly about how the forces of human nature build on themselves, exponentially. The klyptomaniac is in danger of stealing, whether easily pocketable knicknacks as nearby or not, because his obsessions compel him to act.

No matter how peaceful a religious text is, the community is informs is likely to become violent if certain conditions are met. If you want to understand Muslim aggression, you are better off examining their economic, historical, and social place within civilization rather than their religious texts.

Similarly, no matter how violent a religious text is, the people who adhere to it are likely to become peaceful if certain conditions are met.
 
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I think we've got a point of contact here. Though my position on human nature differs slightly, in that I believe a majority of Muslims are ordinary people because of human nature and despite their religion.


You talk about social and economic conditions but even there it's trying to put your thumb on quicksilver. Saudi Arabia can lay claim to being an unbelivably wealthy nation who can tip the equilibrium of the world economy if the leaders so wish. But ordinary people there are kept poor in Islam's homeland, in bondage of the tyranny of a brutal Sharia Law.

The Islamic World and the Christian World differ these days in that Islam has to be wedded to the State over there. Church and State are linked but not joined in the West. And given that Islam contains a slew of direct commands from God to kill Jews, brutalise women, subjugate Christians and even commit honour crimes 'if needs be', then the scripture damn well is as relevant to life over there as contemporary economic conditions!
 
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Oh yes, much more the kind of thing you want to hear. Much more libellous, far more removed from the sting of truth which burns the liberal-left the same as holy water.


We can take that further and say Southern conservatives flew planes into New York, Southern conservatives try to blow up airports and railway yards, Southern conservatives set European cities ablaze and gang-rape non Southern conservative women.
Hmmm, I like that, but I think "Southern conservatives bombed African American churches, Southern conservatives set African-American neighborhoods ablaze, Southern conservatives raped African-American women," is much more accurate to American history.
 

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And given that Islam contains a slew of direct commands from God to kill Jews, brutalise women, subjugate Christians and even commit honour crimes 'if needs be', then the scripture damn well is as relevant to life over there as contemporary economic conditions!
I take it you've never read the Old Testament?
 

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A Danish psychologist who believes Muslims are raised to be aggressive and that inbreeding has damaged their genes informed a damning expert opinion of the risk Omar Khadr poses to public safety, court heard Wednesday.

Under cross-examination by defence lawyers, Dr. Michael Welner said he talked to Nicolai Sennels before coming to the conclusion that the Canadian-born Khadr was "highly dangerous" — an opinion he gave Tuesday on the first day of Khadr's sentencing hearing.

Fascinating article.
There was a talk a few months ago on this very topic in my Mosque.

Interbreeding is quite a big deal in many cultures, including many Muslim ones. BBC also did a documentary on this very topic as it is quite huge within the Asian community. Marrying first cousins.

I'm sceptical over the claim it has 'catastrophically damaged their gene pool.'. What would he know about genes?
 
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I think we've got a point of contact here. Though my position on human nature differs slightly, in that I believe a majority of Muslims are ordinary people because of human nature and despite their religion.


You talk about social and economic conditions but even there it's trying to put your thumb on quicksilver. Saudi Arabia can lay claim to being an unbelivably wealthy nation who can tip the equilibrium of the world economy if the leaders so wish. But ordinary people there are kept poor in Islam's homeland, in bondage of the tyranny of a brutal Sharia Law.

The Islamic World and the Christian World differ these days in that Islam has to be wedded to the State over there. Church and State are linked but not joined in the West. And given that Islam contains a slew of direct commands from God to kill Jews, brutalise women, subjugate Christians and even commit honour crimes 'if needs be', then the scripture damn well is as relevant to life over there as contemporary economic conditions!
A reconciliation between Islam and the West isn't completely hopeless though. If you drop Sharia Law and agree some of the more martial passages in the Qu'ran are intended to be interpretred metaphorically (not all that difficult considering its poetic style and cultural context), then you have a religion that is pretty comfortable with modernism, including, seperation of Church and State. Migrating Muslims will be more amendable to that after a few more generations cultural conditioning and after obtaining a more equitable economic and political stature with native Westerners.
 
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It's been rehashed a thousand times. Islam is not a single group of people who all think and act the same, any more than Christianity is.

Islamic Extremist:Islam
as
KKK:Christianity

Why do you hold this double standard? Why do other religions get to wave off their violent factions and history as just a fringe group of nutcases, but Islam doesn't?

edit: and I reject everything the article in the OP claims. Gonna need to see a peer-reviewed research study on this "inbreeding."

However, Muslims stand united in excusing Muslim atrocities. Why is that?
 

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I think "Southern conservatives bombed African American churches, Southern conservatives set African-American neighborhoods ablaze, Southern conservatives raped African-American women," is much more accurate to American history.
And I imagine, even if that had a whiff of truth to it, that American Leftists wouldn't shut up about it. Unlike with the Muslim atrocities, which we're called names for mentioning. Can't risk 'tension', see.



I take it you've never read the Old Testament?
The Old Testament was superceded. Christianity has also undergone a slew of reforms and revisions, whilst Islam remains static. And on top of this, Islam is unique as the ordainments to evil are supposed to be the DIRECT WORD OF GOD applicable to all Muslims anywhere, at any time.



A reconciliation between Islam and the West isn't completely hopeless though.
No, that's right. I'm aware of and have known older Muslims who think the whole heavy-duty Sharia thing is horrible and that the West represents a place to live in peace and free from tyranny. The trouble started when the resurgent supremacist element packed their bags and followed them here.

Islam will need to be reformed to secure a future of peaceful integration.
 
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A reconciliation between Islam and the West isn't completely hopeless though. If you drop Sharia Law and agree some of the more martial passages in the Qu'ran are intended to be interpretred metaphorically (not all that difficult considering its poetic style and cultural context), then you have a religion that is pretty comfortable with modernism, including, seperation of Church and State. Migrating Muslims will be more amendable to that after a few more generations cultural conditioning and after obtaining a more equitable economic and political stature with native Westerners.
An extremely large populations of Iranians already look like they are ready for that, as seen by the largest protest of the "Green Movement" last year. Its their lunatic leader that is holding them back and making them so hostile to the rest of the world.
 

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However, Muslims stand united in excusing Muslim atrocities. Why is that?
Because they are evil and they all are collectively plotting the destruction of western civilization and we must defend our Christian God and round them all up and put them into gas chambers to make the world a better place.
 

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Not by the Jews.
Oh it's the Jews now, is it? You're leaping about like a flea with a full bladder.



....put them into gas chambers to make the world a better place.
There's the hyperbole we all know and love. What a boring place the world would be without the Left.
 

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Forensic psychiatrist Dr Welner's opinion was "informed" by the work of Danish psychologist Dr Sennels. Dr Welner admits never having read Dr Sennel's book on the subject as it was published in Danish, a language Dr Welner does not understand. How enlightening.
 
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