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Yes, jumping in wanting to protect children from similar incidents, not mocking those who want to protect children from similar incidents. You really want to draw that contrast between you and me? I welcome it.
A reasonable person should recognise that behaviour as being inappropriate and not lower themselves to the same standards.
"Who's the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?"
―Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Absolutely. The root of this horrific crime is a disturbed teenager, just like the root of Newtown was a disturbed young adult. The weapons of choice were irrelevant.
Is it just me, or are we starting to see more and more crimes being committed by young people who are supposed to be worrying about acne and passing the 9th grade?
That was my first thought as well. Had this happened when I was in school, the guy would have been buried under a pile of pissed off students beating the living crap out of him. It's time we started including basic self-defense as part of the required school curriculum. I'm not talking about creating a bunch of "Cobra Kai" types, but rather a basic understanding of how to avoid being victim of a physical assault.I'm surprised nobody overtook him sooner?!
Yes you are and it is pathetic.
Geezus H. Christ, those kids were 14-17 years old - the same age range as 2 of my sons.
What in the name of God would prompt a child to do something like this?
I actually am not unfortunately. I'm seeing patterns of people being less and less independent and unfortunately if we keep up the mentality that "someone else will deal with it" then bad actors will further be enabled to do stuff like this. A few years back there was a story of fully grown college students freezing in terror while a male student stabbed a co-ed to death in the cafeteria, none of them knew what to do or took the initiative to stop him and said they were "afraid". I just can't fathom that kind of response but apparently it is real.I'm surprised nobody overtook him sooner?!
That seems to be the million dollar question in every one of these. I don't know if it's just mental health, psychotropic drugs, or even if this was a gang issue. I have heard there are areas of Pittsburgh and Philly that the gangs pretty much own so my question is if this was a bullied kid, a kid with severe mental health issues, or if the gangs wanted to use a kid to make a statement with something like this knowing that he had a chance to be released with records sealed after 21.Geezus H. Christ, those kids were 14-17 years old - the same age range as 2 of my sons.
What in the name of God would prompt a child to do something like this?
I actually am not unfortunately. I'm seeing patterns of people being less and less independent and unfortunately if we keep up the mentality that "someone else will deal with it" then bad actors will further be enabled to do stuff like this. A few years back there was a story of fully grown college students freezing in terror while a male student stabbed a co-ed to death in the cafeteria, none of them knew what to do or took the initiative to stop him and said they were "afraid". I just can't fathom that kind of response but apparently it is real.
Knife bans are typically even more complicated than gun laws. In my state there are so many laws, blade length cannot exceed 4" and double sided blades are not legal for concealment, then a lot of non-knife and gun weapons like slap-jacks and brass knuckles are banned. Any time I consider something for street defense I am going to law sites, like a collapsible baton, I am currently trying to figure out the legality of that.Knives are banned already, I would think. I'm starting to think these people had zero respect for the law....
Yeah, it's pretty empowering to an attacker when there is no response to their actions, simple logic would dictate that a person will escalate their aggression until some form of force limits them."Shelter in place" also having negative results?
Knife bans are typically even more complicated than gun laws. In my state there are so many laws, blade length cannot exceed 4" and double sided blades are not legal for concealment, then a lot of non-knife and gun weapons like slap-jacks and brass knuckles are banned. Any time I consider something for street defense I am going to law sites, like a collapsible baton, I am currently trying to figure out the legality of that.
Show me one single post that I made where I mocked the situation in the OP. I've certainly mocked anti-gun advocates stance on banning objects. But I have not ONCE mocked the situation in the OP.
Yeah, it's pretty empowering to an attacker when there is no response to their actions, simple logic would dictate that a person will escalate their aggression until some form of force limits them.
Only because the weapon of choice wasn't a gun. You know damn well that had it been a gun, the anti-gunners would be all over this thread like stink on ****.
It is a bit disgusting to watch the Gun-H0 crowd use a tragedy like this to push an agenda....almost sickening.
Only because the weapon of choice wasn't a gun. You know damn well that had it been a gun, the anti-gunners would be all over this thread like stink on ****.
Ah,so it is perfectly acceptable for liars to tell lies about what happened because they imagine it COULD have happened.
Got it.
I already have, you are, and it is pathetic.
It is a bit disgusting to watch the Gun-H0 crowd use a tragedy like this to push an agenda....almost sickening.
That has been my theory since the 90s. There weren't a whole lot of high profile mass murders until about them, or at least they weren't widely reported, then Pearl Mississippi, Columbine, and a few others I can't remember at the moment started to pop up. Then another lull, a few here and there but nothing like the previous decade, and the last couple of years another spike. I think reporting on these issues(sad, but ultimately local issues) in the national media does have a bit of a copycat effect, notoriety is better than nothing to some people with severe mental deficits, I have read a theory that a lot of the people who do this have severe issues with narcissism along with sociopathic tendencies.I'm not sure whether it is more common, or just more widely reported. Perhaps it is a bit of both. It could be that the wide reporting encourages other unstable people do copycat.
My first thought because it was urban was a potential gang hit.There could be a correlation with the over 40% of births outside of marriage, too. Raising kids alone was never easy, and the irresponsible are likely to do an even poorer job of it than are the divorced and widowed. Has anyone looked into the number of youthful killers who were raised in stable two parent families?
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