I never really had the chance to discuss this because by the time I became active in forums, most of the claims about shootings such as Sandy Hook being a hoax had mostly died down. However, as I recently found out, the belief is still alive. So I'm asking for evidence that some mass shootings are hoaxes or false flags.
This is one area of the conspiracy theorist community where I actually have some expertise on the subject. I'm a police academy graduate actively seeking a career in law enforcement. So while I'm not an FBI agent that was on the force long enough to retire with top security clearances, I am slightly more knowledgeable than the average person who never went to the academy at all.
As much as I love debating gun control, this thread isn't about that. Please keep the subject on evidence that at least some mass shootings are hoaxes or false flags. Let's start with Sandy Hook as it's the most infamous claim out there.
I never really had the chance to discuss this because by the time I became active in forums, most of the claims about shootings such as Sandy Hook being a hoax had mostly died down. However, as I recently found out, the belief is still alive. So I'm asking for evidence that some mass shootings are hoaxes or false flags.
This is one area of the conspiracy theorist community where I actually have some expertise on the subject. I'm a police academy graduate actively seeking a career in law enforcement. So while I'm not an FBI agent that was on the force long enough to retire with top security clearances, I am slightly more knowledgeable than the average person who never went to the academy at all.
As much as I love debating gun control, this thread isn't about that. Please keep the subject on evidence that at least some mass shootings are hoaxes or false flags. Let's start with Sandy Hook as it's the most infamous claim out there.
Because you are from Florida, maybe you can give a good explanation as to why there were no photos at all of Cruz doing the shooting he has been convicted of? With 20+ surveillance cameras inside the school building, and reports from at least 2 teachers describing their seeing the shooter(s) doing the shooting and describing how the shooter(s) were clothed, why do you suppose not one single frame captured Cruz at all, much less doing the shooting?
I'm probably asking way too much there, and here is one more beyond the pale for those who believe everything they are told on.
LOL! I, too, am a PA graduate, and it gives one absolutely zero better understanding of hoaxes/false flags. None. Whatsoever.
Agreed. The PA has two purposes. 1. To weed out those that should not be there. and 2. To make the rest trainable.
I didn't said it did or at least that wasn't my intention. What I mean is that having a cursery inside look at police work dispels a lot of the conspiracy theories concerning this topic.LOL! I, too, am a PA graduate, and it gives one absolutely zero better understanding of hoaxes/false flags. None. Whatsoever.
I didn't said it did or at least that wasn't my intention. What I mean is that having a cursery inside look at police work dispels a lot of the conspiracy theories concerning this topic.
Because you are from Florida, maybe you can give a good explanation as to why there were no photos at all of Cruz doing the shooting he has been convicted of?
With 20+ surveillance cameras inside the school building, and reports from at least 2 teachers describing their seeing the shooter(s) doing the shooting and describing how the shooter(s) were clothed, why do you suppose not one single frame captured Cruz at all, much less doing the shooting?
I don't know much of the contradictory evidence at Pulse. What evidence do you have that it's contradictory?I'm probably asking way too much there, and here is one more beyond the pale for those who believe everything they are told on TV: explain all the contradictory evidence at Pulse.
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I'm probably making the bad assumption that you are even aware of the contradictory evidence at Pulse.
Ah, sorry, that wasn't at all clear from the way you worded it.
You're not entitled to the security footage of a school shooting, and the lack of released or leaked footage does not implicate a false flag.
Because it's still under investigation. The shooter hasn't even faced trail yet if I recall.
As explained above, it's still under investigation. As to the two teachers who saw multiple shooters, memory and clear thinking pretty much go out the window during and shortly after a crisis. We have a pefect example of the recent officer involved shooting where the officer shot an armed security gaurd by mistake and from what I gathered, the security gaurd was clearly marked as one.
I don't know much of the contradictory evidence at Pulse. What evidence do you have that it's contradictory?
The contradictory evidence at Pulse was ample, and recorded on numerous videos, all banished shortly thereafter from the mainstream media, as is so often the case in these days of universal deception.
More, a young friend of a friend happened to be there that night. Being about as young as you, she saw 2 shooters, and posted that on her FB account. Fortunately she was unharmed.
The next day or so, her FB posts and pictures had been deleted by some higher power.
The contradictory evidence at Pulse was ample, and recorded on numerous videos, all banished shortly thereafter from the mainstream media, as is so often the case in these days of universal deception.
More, a young friend of a friend happened to be there that night. Being about as young as you, she saw 2 shooters, and posted that on her FB account. Fortunately she was unharmed.
The next day or so, her FB posts and pictures had been deleted by some higher power.
Because it's still under investigation. The shooter hasn't even faced trail yet if I recall.
The contradictory evidence at Pulse was ample, and recorded on numerous videos, all banished shortly thereafter from the mainstream media, as is so often the case in these days of universal deception.
More, a young friend of a friend happened to be there that night. Being about as young as you, she saw 2 shooters, and posted that on her FB account. Fortunately she was unharmed.
The next day or so, her FB posts and pictures had been deleted by some higher power.
I know I'll regret entering this sub-forum but...what did they produce to claim that Sandy Hook was staged?
How convenient. When asked to provide evidence the Pulse Night Club shooting was a false flag/hoax, any evidence is erased by the government.
Without evidence, I can't rely on a third party account as evidence.
Again, awfully convenient.
Did her phone also disappear? Where are her pics now?
Absolutely nothing. And I'm a bit disappointed. The Sandy Hook conspiracy theory is one of the more established theories within this genre. Even I believed that Sandy Hook was a false flag based on the "evidence" presented to me.
No, her phone did not disappear. Her post on FB disappeared, a day or 2 after the event.
To keep things in perspective, I've never met the girl. However I've been working with her friend for years, and it was she who relayed the story. Pulse is a 2 hour drive from where she lives and the girl had visited in the past.
No, her phone did not disappear. Her post on FB disappeared, a day or 2 after the event.
To keep things in perspective, I've never met the girl. However I've been working with her friend for years, and it was she who relayed the story. Pulse is a 2 hour drive from where she lives and the girl had visited in the past.
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