Matt Foley
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Incorrect.
Ethno/racial centrism is not automatic for any political ideology.
Anyone who says that ethnicity is RW doesn't make make any sense, they are incongruous.
There you go AGAIN with a absolutism.
FFS.
Actually, it worked. You responded to my points the second time around.
No, a political ideology is not a group of people, it is a set of beliefs. The people who support those beliefs come and go. Beliefs can be good or bad, so fighting against an ideology can be good or bad as well. The reason that bigotry is bad is because members of a demographic group did nothing to choose to be in that group and do not have the choice to leave. So it is just pointless malice. Hatred of a political ideology is not pointless. If you beat down bad ideologies, the world becomes a better place and you free the people afflicted with it to go on and lead productive lives.
Uh...i think the point SOME might be making is that in the US, the RW is primarily made up of white conservatives ....who tend towards racism, especially compared to US liberals. I can't believe that is a problem for you to understand.You said,
Typically, any kind of authoritarianism does this and left wing groups can be just as prone to it as anyone else.
The fact is here, that people are automatically calling racism and ethnocentrism as right wing.
It gets automatically assigned to the right of the political spectrum, when any group can pick up these ideologies and use them in their cause.
The constant and incessant assumption that racism = right wing is wrong.
We have many examples of left wing groups espousing racist beliefs.
Uh...i think the point SOME might be making is that in the US, the RW is primarily made up of white conservatives ....who tend towards racism, especially compared to US liberals. I can't believe that is a problem for you to understand.
Indeed, in fact as modern Pakistan was being created as a home for Indian Muslims and the Muslims were being partitioned to the new state, the Sikhs formed a gauntlet and murdered as many as they could. They are opposing groups.
Got to say though, I feel a bit unclean having this discussion in a thread about a horrendous event that has to be tearing the hearts out of family and friends of the victims.
Bud, you're a hater like any other hater, you just selected a politically-correct target.
Nothing to do with it... the thread got hijacked by haters of various stripes.
Thanks professor, as if that was not understood, and the idea of trying link Southern Dems of 100 to 200 years ago to modern US liberal just won't fly. The party has nearly always had a north-south split...and then later those Southern Dems were incorporated into the GOP.Not ethnicity, ethno centrism.
I'm not being absolutist.
I'm merely stating that if a modern group, generally believes many/most of the same things of groups in years past, that makes it comparable to a modern group.
The can be identified together.
I do not believe most modern liberals or left wing groups are racist, I'm just saying that there have been racist liberals and left wing groups.
IMO, you failed miserably to rise above and set an example--your knee-jerk overzealous defense is 1 of 2 that it takes to tango.
Again, I think we should all keep our thoughts focused on those suffering today--such a peaceful community of people attacked like this for no logical reason. Look to your own communities, rise above and reach out to a non-Christian.
What have we done in a positive way to make a Sikh, a Muslim, a Hindu feel that they are as American as we are?
What's unclean about it? If Sikh's outnumbered Christians they'd be slaughtering Christians here too. Balkanized America here we come.
Well, that is generally more nonsense.The problem is, that what may be perceived as racist, isn't always racism.
Thanks professor, as if that was not understood, and the idea of trying link Southern Dems of 100 to 200 years ago to modern US liberal just won't fly. The party has nearly always had a north-south split...and then later those Southern Dems were incorporated into the GOP.
To stop tolerating right wing hate across the board. No more presidential candidates giving speeches about how Jews are culturally superior to Palestinians, no more saying that you're going to go the NAACP to tell them to get off the food stamps, no more calling gay people "perverts", no more banning cultural studies course, no more Glenn Beck, no more Rush Limbaugh, no more movements to ban the construction of mosques, no more ranting about "islamofascists", etc.
Well, that is generally more nonsense.The problem is, that what may be perceived as racist, isn't always racism.
Um...because a racist act is caused by racism, the application of a racist ideology.How so?
Show me.
Thank god you didn't say "no more bigotry"...you would've ended up calling for the end of yourself
Um...because a racist act is caused by racism, the application of a racist ideology.
I can't wait for more semantic magic that will probably follow...
Uh...the point is that the split was based on ideology, many in the north did not support slavery that those in the south did, and that ideological spit showed itself as recently as the Civil Rights voting.So you try to separate groups (that were ideologically similar) based on geography, rather than say, sometimes, left wing groups can be racist.
Another month. Another mass killing. Well, at least its not weekly.
Yet.
I guess the nice thing is lots of posters can just go to current gun threads and copy their posts without burning too many brain cells. Lets see now
*** no gun zones kill people
*** a few crazy people should not spoil it for everyone else
*** its not the guns
*** the Founding Fathers wanted it this way
*** mental illness is the culprit
Did I miss anything?
Uh...the point is that the split was based on ideology, many in the north did not support slavery that those in the south did, and that ideological spit showed itself as recently as the Civil Rights voting.
Further....please don't insinuate that Southern Dem, because they were dems, were somehow a left wing group.
Could be wrong, but I have the impression that the Sikh community feels very well-accepted in the United States.
It was a stance held by racists, he used it to try and gather Southern votes. I'm not sure how racist he was then, but I do know many of his views became much more liberal as he aged.Yes but sometimes, things that are perceived or accused of being "racist" aren't actually racist.
Goldwater not supporting the Civil Rights Act, was considered racist by many, but his stated reasoning for not supporting it, were clearly not racist.
Was his position racist or wasn't it?
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