LOL... No Cephus. He is saying that Sikhs aren't Muslim, not that the shooters aren't Muslim.
So what side of the political spectrum is a group that espouses modern left wing beliefs like, bringing up the common man through social programs and the like, but also believes in ethno/racial centrism?
Good lord, now you abandoned your silly semantic argument about what a social conservative is.It's not nonsense.
I mean progressives were pretty darn racist, not to long ago.
You are applying a specific political definition of modern ideologies.....to a party from nearly 200 years ago?!?Like the progressives, Jacksonian democrats right?
Pretty left wing, in many, many areas but pretty darn racist in others.
The idea that you can be bigoted against a political ideology is silly. Sure, in the broadest possible dictionary definition of "bigotry", maybe that could be true. But not in any meaningful or important sense. Real bigotry is about demographic groups, not political ideologies. You can hate political ideologies. It doesn't even make sense not to, since some of them directly contradict one another in fundamental ways....
This whole thing lately where the right is trying to confuse the concept of bigotry to include everything under the sun is just a lame attempt to divert attention from real bigotry. Nobody is falling for it.
Hmmm...ethnicity is not automatic for any political ideology? Even more nonsense!Incorrect.
Ethno/racial centrism is not automatic for any political ideology.
Good lord, now you abandoned your silly semantic argument about what a social conservative is.
FFS.
You are applying a specific political definition of modern ideologies.....to a party from nearly 200 years ago?!?
More nonsense!
Hmmm...ethnicity is not automatic for any political ideology? Even more nonsense!
WRONG...it consists of IDEAS.Repeating an already failed deflection: Poor tactics.
A "political ideology" consists of what? People.
Repeating an already failed deflection: Poor tactics.
You're a terrible embarassment to all reasonable Progessives and liberals every time you open your mouth lately.
WRONG...it consists of IDEAS.
This is just stupid beyond belief, you have twisted the modern understanding of what a "social conservative" in US politics means, and now you are in engaging in absolutism trying to argue that US Progressives hold to any and all ideas from past progressives......and try to twist that into "social conservatism". Unbelievable, utter and total nonsense.No I haven't.
Progressives were some of the first modern liberals.
With many modern liberals wanting to preserve their traditions and beliefs.
They also happened to be pretty racist.
What a liberal was 200 years ago is not the same as what a liberal is today....you just keep on with this silly nonsense.So it's meaningless that they supported "left wing" policies, but also happened to be racist?
WRONG...it consists of IDEAS.
No I haven't.
Progressives were some of the first modern liberals.
With many modern liberals wanting to preserve their traditions and beliefs.
They also happened to be pretty racist.
So it's meaningless that they supported "left wing" policies, but also happened to be racist?
Now you are creating a non sequitur, my comment had nothing to do with inherent racism of ideologies.On the general side of ideologies, right wing or left.
One is not automatically racist or not racist.
This is just stupid beyond belief, you have twisted the modern understanding of what a "social conservative" in US politics means, and now you are in engaging in absolutism trying to argue that US Progressives hold to any and all ideas from past progressives......and try to twist that into "social conservatism". Unbelievable, utter and total nonsense.
What a liberal was 200 years ago is not the same as what a liberal is today....you just keep on with this silly nonsense.
OK....but ideologies ARE NOT "made up" of people, they consist of ideas......people and ideas/ideologies are very different things.They are held up by something... by the belief of those who embrace them.
Now you are creating a non sequitur, my comment had nothing to do with inherent racism of ideologies.
You can keep on with these absolutely ridiculous posts.....but this is just beyond belief.
As I already pointed out RW Authoritarianism DOES trend towards racist behavior/ideas, you might be trying to apply absolutes to diminish an argument.
I'm not really following this argument too well. What message are you trying to make about modern politics based on the positions and attitudes of the Jacksonian democrats?
And secondly, what has it got to do with the shooting of Sikhs in their gurduwara?
Anyone who says that ethnicity is RW doesn't make make any sense, they are incongruous.I don't actually believe that because some progressives were racist 100 years ago, that they're racist today.
It's just fallacious to say that ethno/racial centrism is automatically right wing.
There you go AGAIN with a absolutism.Even if liberals support the same things today?
Repeating an already failed deflection: Poor tactics.
A "political ideology" consists of what? People. Can you be bigoted against people? For whatever reason? Yes you can, if your negative beliefs towards them are irrational and based on ignorance, bias, assumptions and stereotypes... as your attitude about "the right" is.
I'm not really following this argument too well. What message are you trying to make about modern politics based on the positions and attitudes of the Jacksonian democrats?
And secondly, what has it got to do with the shooting of Sikhs in their gurduwara?
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