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Marxism vs neo-Marxism . . . Which Is Worse?

Marxism vs neo-Marxism . . . Which Is worse?


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"The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property." - Karl Marx

The difference between Marxism and neo-Marxism is simple:

Marxism is the study and belief in Marxist ideals (i.e., private property should be abolished).

Neo-Marxism does not involve any study in Marx's teachings, however it holds the same fundamental belief that all private property should be abolished.

In your opinion, which is worse?
 
"The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property." - Karl Marx

The difference between Marxism and neo-Marxism is simple:

Marxism is the study and belief in Marxist ideals (i.e., private property should be abolished).

Neo-Marxism does not involve any study in Marx's teachings, however it holds the same fundamental belief that all private property should be abolished.

In your opinion, which is worse?
My opinion- anyone who couldn't get through the first three pages of Das Kapital has no business talking about Marxism.
 
Someone must have a college degree in political science to give us his assessment of the difference. OR he heard something about Marxism from Rightwing radio or Fox.
 
A fine Red Herring argument.

Thanks for making it.
And now showing that you don't know what a 'red herring' is.
It took Karl Marx three volumes of heavy going to explain Marxism. Go ahead, show the class your exceptionally superior intelligence by condensing it into a bumper sticker.
 
And now showing that you don't know what a 'red herring' is.
Of course I do.

Your post is a textbook example of a Red Herring argument.

You cannot post a sensible argument, so naturally, you resort to the Red Herring logical fallacy.
It took Karl Marx three volumes of heavy going to explain Marxism. Go ahead, show the class your exceptionally superior intelligence by condensing it into a bumper sticker.
Oh dear.

If the topic of this thread offends you in some way, move along. :)
 
Of course I do.

Your post is a textbook example of a Red Herring argument.

You cannot post a sensible argument, so naturally, you resort to the Red Herring logical fallacy.

Oh dear.

If the topic of this thread offends you in some way, move along. :)
If the topic of this thread is bigger than your understanding, abandon it.
 
If the topic of this thread is bigger than your understanding, abandon it.
🤣 :LOL:

You're hilarious!

Post more nonsensical non-arguments. PLEASE. . . . you make me laugh with your silly nonsense.

Marxism and neo-Marxism are both dying out. But neo-Marxism is worse, IMO.

Marxists took the time and effort to familiarize themselves with Marx's work to formulate their (flawed) ideology. NeoMarxists did not - - they just believe the fake news, and formulated their opinion on MSM nonsense.
 
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The difference is holding a philosophy/ideology and letting that guide your behavior and beliefs vs. just following your inner compass and accepting that your beliefs are somewhat arbitrary but you choose to follow them regardless.
My opinion is that Marxism is generally bad. So a Marxist is worse than a Neo-Marxist because his beliefs will be steadfast and impossible to change.
 
Traditional Marxism was based on class envy and class warfare.
Those are the establishment Democrats, like Pelosi and Schumer.
Neo-marxism is based on racial hatred and cultural hatred.
Those are the new generation of left wing bigot Democrats like the Squad.
 
. . . . My opinion is that Marxism is generally bad.
Agreed.
So a Marxist is worse than a Neo-Marxist because his beliefs will be steadfast and impossible to change.
I disagree. Neo-Marxists are worse because they lack the ambition and aptitude to find out why Marxism is detrimental to a free and productive society.
 
"The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property." - Karl Marx

The difference between Marxism and neo-Marxism is simple:

Marxism is the study and belief in Marxist ideals (i.e., private property should be abolished).

Neo-Marxism does not involve any study in Marx's teachings, however it holds the same fundamental belief that all private property should be abolished.

In your opinion, which is worse?
The malignant narcissist scumbag piece of shit liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer and tax cheat along with his fascist and racist administration is worse.
 
The Democrats are so far left that even Mao would say WTF.
 
A fine Red Herring argument.

Thanks for making it. :)
Communist herrings are indeed Red. Except in the USA where for some strange reason they are Blue.

Btw, since you asked, the most murderous form of Marxism is Marxist-Leninism which killed tens of millions in Russia and even more in China.
 
A fine Red Herring argument.

Thanks for making it. :)
No, not a red herring. Grand Mal makes a good point. What you quoted from marx is either a dishonest attempt to mine quote or an example of someone who has never read anything about marx except what the anti socialist crowd write.
And I really do doubt that you have ever read das kapital.

What you quoted is misleading. It gives the impression that marx was against all private property which of course is not true.
https://www.counterfire.org/article/marx-and-the-meaning-of-private-property/
The first reaction to this radical idea ( Abolish private property.) was that it would find little resonance with the British working class, a large number of whom have bought their own homes and seek to get a better life through the acquisition of more property – cars, comfortable domestic furnishings etc. However Marx anticipated this reaction. He pointed out that he was referring to ‘bourgeois property’, and property relations not the hard won property of the worker. For Marx the bourgeois defence of their property was at one and the same time a defence of their power, and was riddled with hypocrisy.

All property relations in the past have continually been subject to historical change consequent upon the change in historical conditions. The French Revolution, for example, abolished feudal property in favour of bourgeois property.

Bourgeois property relations come about, as Marx says above, through dispossessing others, and then inventing a legal code to justify this robbery.

In the 18th century the imposition of bourgeois property relations on the labouring poor came about by the seizure of common lands. For example, in Scotland the highland clearances removed crofters from the land and turned the highlands into sheep ranges. This was done through force. In England common land was parcelled up and given to big farmers. Legal documents were provided to defend this robbery.

In North America the native inhabitants thought that private property was an absurd inversion of reality. The inhabitants were secondary and the land was primary. So as European settlers knocked in some wooden stakes to make a claim on native lands, the US government gave them deeds that made the robbery legal. This is going on today in Palestine, and in the Amazon.

The ultimate prize that the bourgeoisie gain from transforming pre-existing property relations is the creation of capital.

So thank you for once again demonstrating at best just how ignorant of marx's philosophy the anti socialists really are And at worst just how willingly they will raise false talking points and use the most insidious of fallacies, ie; quote mining to distort and lie to achieve their goal of misinforming people about marx and what he had to say.
 
Communist herrings are indeed Red. Except in the USA where for some strange reason they are Blue.

Btw, since you asked, the most murderous form of Marxism is Marxist-Leninism which killed tens of millions in Russia and even more in China.
And the OP, batting way outside his league, continues to get brutally schooled. 😂😂
 
The malignant narcissist scumbag piece of shit liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer and tax cheat along with his fascist and racist administration is worse.
I assume you know the new tariff nickname.
TACO - Trump Always Chickens Out. 😂
 
If the topic of this thread is bigger than your understanding, abandon it.
I almost always chuckle when I see “discussions” of Marxism mentioned here in DP because the individuals more apt to broach the topic almost never display any actual understanding or knowledge of Marx and his body of works.
 
"The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property." - Karl Marx

The difference between Marxism and neo-Marxism is simple:

Marxism is the study and belief in Marxist ideals (i.e., private property should be abolished).

Neo-Marxism does not involve any study in Marx's teachings, however it holds the same fundamental belief that all private property should be abolished.

In your opinion, which is worse?

I mean, I guess Marxism, given that "neo Marxism" is a made up thing, invented by dummies and cry babies. 🤷‍♂️
 
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