WASHINGTON — As a top official in President Trump’s campaign, Paul Manafort shared political polling data with a business associate tied to Russian intelligence, according to a court filing unsealed on Tuesday. The document provided the clearest evidence to date that the Trump campaign may have tried to coordinate with Russians during the 2016 presidential race.
Mr. Manafort’s lawyers made the disclosure by accident, through a formatting error in a document filed to respond to charges that he had lied to prosecutors working for the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, after agreeing to cooperate with their investigation into Russian interference in the election.
The document also revealed that during the campaign, Mr. Manafort and his Russian associate, Konstantin V. Kilimnik, discussed a plan for peace in Ukraine. Throughout the campaign and the early days of the Trump administration, Russia and its allies were pushing various plans for Ukraine in the hope of gaining relief from American-led sanctions imposed after it annexed Crimea from Ukraine.
Countdown to the usual "collusion is not a crime"This is now the clearest evidence of direct collusion between the trump campaign and Russian intelligence during the election.
This is in spite of the fact that the Trump Tower meeting was itself collusion, along with, um....well...the fact that Trump publicly asked Russia to hack Clinton's emails.
Trump supporters have already moved the goal posts to "Manafort was pressured into falsely confessing to sharing the polling data" as well as "Polling data? Big deal." So if you're planning on changing trump supporter minds....seriously, don't bother.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
What polling data was shared? What coordinated outcome is only possible with polling data?
...and the goal posts move from "prove collusion happened" to "prove the collusion was significant enough to impress me."
In a few months it'll be, "Prove that Trump personally hacked into voting computers and changed their numbers."
In a few months after that it'll be, "Okay, so Trump actually did hack into voting computers and changed their numbers. Prove that it was enough to change the outcome of the election."
Anybody following trump supporters down these bottomless rabbit holes are engaging in masochism.
I'm asking what do you think was the outcome of the sharing? i.e. what was the point
...and the goal posts move from "prove collusion happened" to "prove the collusion was significant enough to impress me."
In a few months it'll be, "Prove that Trump personally hacked into voting computers and changed their numbers."
In a few months after that it'll be, "Okay, so Trump actually did hack into voting computers and change their numbers. Prove that it was enough to change the outcome of the election."
Anybody following trump supporters down these bottomless rabbit holes are engaging in masochism.
To quantify the outcome is to agree to your shifting of the goal posts by attempting to convince you that the sharing was significant. I don't need to do that. Collusion happened, and that's the end of that.
I'm asking what do you think was the outcome of the sharing? i.e. what was the point
Thank you for explaining what collusion is to you.
...and the goal posts move from "prove collusion happened" to "prove the collusion was significant enough to impress me."
In a few months it'll be, "Prove that Trump personally hacked into voting computers and changed their numbers."
In a few months after that it'll be, "Okay, so Trump actually did hack into voting computers and change their numbers. Prove that it was enough to change the outcome of the election."
Anybody following trump supporters down these bottomless rabbit holes are engaging in masochism.
nothing has moved at all, we need to know what kind of polling data,, sheesh, the guy can talk about election polling data from rasmussen with whoever he wants, how's that a frikking crime? thats stupid.
That's another attempt to move the goal post: "Convince me that we share the same definition of collusion. Oh, and I won't share my own definition because I may need to move the goal posts again next week."
Again, anybody following trump supporters down these bottomless rabbit holes are engaging in masochism.
I'm asking what do you think was the outcome of the sharing? i.e. what was the point
oh MY GOD he shared their own polling data along with public data with someone else, WHAT A CRIME!!
from the article:
"Most of the data was public, but some of it was developed by a private polling firm working for the campaign, according to the person."
oh MY GOD he shared their own polling data along with public data with someone else, WHAT A CRIME!!
collusion shmallusion, that is the longest reach i've seen yet.
come back when you find he shared a snickers bar with Putin.
Trump supporters: Show me evidence of collusionWhat polling data was shared? What coordinated outcome is only possible with polling data?
from the article:"Most of the data was public, but some of it was developed by a private polling firm working for the campaign, according to the person."oh MY GOD he shared their own polling data along with public data with someone else, WHAT A CRIME!!.
from the article:
"Most of the data was public, but some of it was developed by a private polling firm working for the campaign, according to the person."
oh MY GOD he shared their own polling data along with public data with someone else, WHAT A CRIME!!
collusion shmallusion, that is the longest reach i've seen yet.
come back when you find he shared a snickers bar with Putin.
Last month, The New York Times and the UK's Guardian and Observer newspapers broke news the social networking giant was duped by researchers, who reportedly gained access to the data of millions of Facebook users and then may have misused it for political ads during the 2016 US presidential election. Facebook said it was investigating the reports, which involved data consultancy Cambridge Analytica.
Is that what you believe, that the voting machines were hacked and the voting totals were altered?...and the goal posts move from "prove collusion happened" to "prove the collusion was significant enough to impress me."
In a few months it'll be, "Prove that Trump personally hacked into voting computers and changed their numbers."
In a few months after that it'll be, "Okay, so Trump actually did hack into voting computers and change their numbers. Prove that it was enough to change the outcome of the election."
Anybody following trump supporters down these bottomless rabbit holes are engaging in masochism.
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