Man dies of Covid (without being infected)

[noonereal]

This is complete bullshit propaganda and a blatant lie. Check this for yourself folks....

The same newspaper printed this Aug 23,

Around 53% of the state's ICU beds are currently filled with COVID-19 patients, Alabama Hospital Association's Dr. Don Williamson said Monday.
The State of Alabama was reporting 4700 new cases per day on Aug 23, since then the numbers have dropped off considerably with 2300 on 9/9 and 1200 on 9/10.
Someone is lying.

September 10th, my stats are valid as of two days ago. Guess what? More people got sick in the last month! Oh, what a surprise!!!!!!

Alabama man dies of cardiac event after 43 hospitals with full ICUs turned him away

Ray Martin DeMonia died on Sept. 1 in Meridian, Mississippi. His family struggled to find care, saying 43 hospitals had no ICU bed for him.

www.yahoo.com

Seems your rebuttal is bullshit, not my thread cap or OP.

You will not find me posting crap like TRumpists. Ever.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Bullshit. The vaccine does not prevent you from catching or spreading the virus. It only lessens the severity of the illness once you catch it.

Not true. You are 4.5 times more likely to contract COVID if you are unvaccinated and 11 times more likely to be hospitalized if you are unvaccinated.

CDC: Unvaccinated 11 times more likely to die from COVID-19

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced results from a study Friday that found unvaccinated individuals were 11 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than fully va…

thehill.com

The fact is, if we achieve herd immunity through vaccination, COVID would be a minor issue, not even as much of a concern as the seasonal flu because the vaccines for COVID are much better than flu vaccines. At this point, I honestly think that most of the remaining antivaxxers are just ******s that are scared of a needle because how could 80 million Americans be this ****ing stupid.

 

[Mr Person]

No, I just proved it was a lie. The states ICU's were only 53% full a little over 2 weeks ago when the cases were peaking at arround 4700. They have been dropping dramatically since then and are now down to about 1200. This drop in cases is the trend nationwide. The media, hospitals, and schools are pumping this thing up for the money and the agenda to try to justify the unconstitutional mandates. IT IS ALL BULLSHIT!

jdog's original post:

This is complete bullshit propaganda and a blatant lie. There have been more lies told in this country in the past year that all of the world in all recorded history. Go ahead and live in fear you left with cowards. I am living like a real man, without fear and without exploitation.

What jdog edited it to before he made the post at the top of this reply:

This is complete bullshit propaganda and a blatant lie. Check this for yourself folks....

The same newspaper printed this Aug 23,

Around 53% of the state's ICU beds are currently filled with COVID-19 patients, Alabama Hospital Association's Dr. Don Williamson said Monday.
The State of Alabama was reporting 4700 new cases per day on Aug 23, since then the numbers have dropped off considerably with 2300 on 9/9 and 1200 on 9/10.
Someone is lying.

He completely changed his original post around, then replied to the post I made catching him in a lie in his original post, acting like he'd said something different. Disgustingly dishonest post, jdog.

But you got busted. And now you're gonna spend twenty pages trying to spam-bomb your dirty move out of existence, aren't you?



If anyone wants to see the way this originally played, it's captured in post #6

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

So other small market outlets are copy-and-pasting the story. It must be true!

Doesn't explain why noonereal was ashamed to link to the "Montgomery Advertiser."

If you bothered to do your due diligence, you'd find this hospital bed shortage is a real problem. And not just in the U.S. "There are none so blind as those who refuse to see".

Japan’s overburdened hospitals turn away thousands of COVID patients

Japan's health care system is flailing under the pressure of the pandemic.

fortune.com

Some pregnant Mississippi mothers turned away when seeking COVID-19 vaccine, now make up 30% of ICU

Of the 30 pregnant women who’ve been admitted to UMMC’s ICU for COVID-19, 11 of those admissions occurred within the past three weeks.

www.clarionledger.com

Covid Overload: U.S. Hospitals Are Running Out of Beds for Patients (Published 2020)

As the coronavirus pandemic surges across the country, hospitals are facing a crisis-level shortage of beds and staff to provide adequate care for patients.

www.nytimes.com

11-month-old with COVID sent to hospital 150 miles away due to lack of bed space in Houston

The 11-month-old girl, who had to be intubated immediately, is now being treated at a hospital 150 miles away in Temple, Texas.

abc13.com

'All the beds are taken up by Covid victims': Hospitals in the South are running out of space or staff | CNN

Covid-19 hospitalizations are reaching all-time highs in parts of the South, with some patients unable to get the care they would normally receive.

www.cnn.com

 

[jdog]

Not true. You are 4.5 times more likely to contract COVID if you are unvaccinated and 11 times more likely to be hospitalized if you are unvaccinated.

CDC: Unvaccinated 11 times more likely to die from COVID-19

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced results from a study Friday that found unvaccinated individuals were 11 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than fully va…

thehill.com

The fact is, if we achieve herd immunity through vaccination, COVID would be a minor issue, not even as much of a concern as the seasonal flu because the vaccines for COVID are much better than flu vaccines. At this point, I honestly think that most of the remaining antivaxxers are just ******s that are scared of a needle because how could 80 million Americans be this ****ing stupid.

I don't know where you come up with that crap from but it is 100% bullshit. The vaccine does absolutely nothing to prevent you getting the virus, or transmitting it. In fact there are studies that say vaccinated people are more likely to transmit the virus due to milder symptoms encouraging them to go out in public.
In addition, the vaccine is worthless against Delta which is why 70% of hospitalizations in Israel are now fully vaccinated with the country having a 84% vaccination rate. So take your bullshit propaganda and put it where the sun don't shine.

 

[jdog]

jdog's original post:



What jdog edited it to before he made the post at the top of this reply:





He completely changed his original post around, then replied to the post I made catching him in a lie in his original post, acting like he'd said something different. Disgustingly dishonest post, jdog.

But you got busted. And now you're gonna spend twenty pages trying to spam-bomb your dirty move out of existence, aren't you?



If anyone wants to see the way this originally played, it's captured in post #6

Are you really that dull? Where is the descepency? The numbers are the same.

 

[Mr Person]

Nah @jdog, you don't get to even try to pretend to recover after that.

Anyone can look at posts 6 and 28 to see that you made a post, got busted, edited the post you got busted on, then replied to where you got busted to try to make it looked as if you were unfairly attacked. Such a bitterly dishonest post.

Are you really that dull? Where is the descepency? The numbers are the same.

Numbers? Here's what you originally said:

This is complete bullshit propaganda and a blatant lie. There have been more lies told in this country in the past year that all of the world in all recorded history. Go ahead and live in fear you left with cowards. I am living like a real man, without fear and without exploitation.

There's no numbers in it. Of course, people can only see that if they read my post, #6, which quoted your original post before you made your dirty edits, trying to make it look like you were quibbling about said "numbers."






You are dismissed.

 

[seymourflops]

If you bothered to do your due diligence, you'd find this hospital bed shortage is a real problem. And not just in the U.S. "There are none so blind as those who refuse to see".

Japan’s overburdened hospitals turn away thousands of COVID patients

Japan's health care system is flailing under the pressure of the pandemic.

fortune.com

Some pregnant Mississippi mothers turned away when seeking COVID-19 vaccine, now make up 30% of ICU

Of the 30 pregnant women who’ve been admitted to UMMC’s ICU for COVID-19, 11 of those admissions occurred within the past three weeks.

www.clarionledger.com

Covid Overload: U.S. Hospitals Are Running Out of Beds for Patients (Published 2020)

As the coronavirus pandemic surges across the country, hospitals are facing a crisis-level shortage of beds and staff to provide adequate care for patients.

www.nytimes.com

11-month-old with COVID sent to hospital 150 miles away due to lack of bed space in Houston

The 11-month-old girl, who had to be intubated immediately, is now being treated at a hospital 150 miles away in Temple, Texas.

abc13.com

'All the beds are taken up by Covid victims': Hospitals in the South are running out of space or staff | CNN

Covid-19 hospitalizations are reaching all-time highs in parts of the South, with some patients unable to get the care they would normally receive.

www.cnn.com

Sorry, but until noonereal comes back to his thread to explain himself, this one needs to go into the CT thread.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

I don't know where you come up with that crap from but it is 100% bullshit. The vaccine does absolutely nothing to prevent you getting the virus, or transmitting it. In fact there are studies that say vaccinated people are more likely to transmit the virus due to milder symptoms encouraging them to go out in public.
In addition, the vaccine is worthless against Delta which is why 70% of hospitalizations in Israel are now fully vaccinated with the country having a 84% vaccination rate. So take your bullshit propaganda and put it where the sun don't shine.

1. It's a CDC metastudy.

2. Of the hospitalized COVID patients in Israel, over 87% are elderly. Moreover, only 64% of Israel's total population is fully vaccinated (they have a lot of people under the age of 14), and it has 10 times our population density, thus people in Israel are exposed to others with COVID far more often than you are in the United States. Thus it's an apples to oranges comparison. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...srael-hospitalization-rates-simpsons-paradox/

3. The vast majority of COVID hospitalizations and deaths in the United States are unvaccinated: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm

Quit being stupid and get vaccinated.

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

Sorry, but until noonereal comes back to his thread to explain himself, this one needs to go into the CT thread.

What does noonereal have to do with you accepting reality?

 

[seymourflops]

What does noonereal have to do with you accepting reality?

noonereal started this thread based on a source that he was ashamed to link.

That's reality.

 

[jdog]

Nah @jdog, you don't get to even try to pretend to recover after that.

Anyone can look at posts 6 and 28 to see that you made a post, got busted, edited the post you got busted on, then replied to where you got busted to try to make it looked as if you were unfairly attacked. Such a bitterly dishonest post.



You are dismissed.

You are delusional, it all says the same thing and I stand by all of it. Yes I edited it, big deal get over it, I did not change the data at all. Now if you can find something I changed show it or FO.

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

noonereal started this thread based on a source that he was ashamed to link.

That's reality.

Again, what does noonereal have to do with you accepting reality?

 

[seymourflops]

Again, what does noonereal have to do with you accepting reality?

Again, noonereal really, really started this thread with a source that he was ashamed to link.

Until he explains himself, I'm not interested in your attempts at derailing the thread.

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

Again, noonereal really, really started this thread with a source that he was ashamed to link.

Until he explains himself, I'm not interested in your attempts at derailing the thread.

Stop deflecting. Why did you not do the research necessary to make an Informed contention here? Instead your going to blame your ignorance of reality on noonereal? That's pathetic. Surely you must realize this?

 

[JasperL]

I don't know where you come up with that crap from but it is 100% bullshit. The vaccine does absolutely nothing to prevent you getting the virus, or transmitting it. In fact there are studies that say vaccinated people are more likely to transmit the virus due to milder symptoms encouraging them to go out in public.
In addition, the vaccine is worthless against Delta which is why 70% of hospitalizations in Israel are now fully vaccinated with the country having a 84% vaccination rate. So take your bullshit propaganda and put it where the sun don't shine.

For anyone who cares, not you of course, here's an explanation of why Israel doesn't prove that vaccines don't work.

Israeli data: How can efficacy vs. severe disease be strong when 60% of hospitalized are vaccinated?

A surge involving the rapidly-transmitting Delta variant in heavily vaccinated countries has led to much hand-wringing that the vaccines are not effective against Delta, or vaccine effectivenss wanes after 4-6 months. This has fueled anti-vaccine sentiment suggesting the vaccines are not...

www.covid-datascience.com

 

[seymourflops]

Stop deflecting. Why did you not do the research necessary to make an Informed contention here? Instead your going to blame your ignorance of reality on noonereal? That's pathetic. Surely you must realize this?

My contention was that noonereal posted a story from a source that he was ashamed to link.

I've seen nothing to prove that this obvious reality is false.

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

My contention was that noonereal posted a story from a source that he was ashamed to link.

I've seen nothing to prove that this obvious reality is false.

Surely you must have noticed other posters have cited numerous other sources. It is a fact that ICU beds are in short supply because of covid. What could possibly be your motivation to deny this?

 

[seymourflops]

Surely you must have noticed other posters have cited numerous other sources. It is a fact that ICU beds are in short supply because of covid. What could possibly be your motivation to deny this?

Yes, many sources are now copying and pasting the story from the "Montgomery Advertiser." By his own actions, noonereal tell us that this is not a worthy source.

 

[ElChupacabra]

LOL!

Four more links were already in the thread when you posted that. What a stupid lie you two are trying to push.

Yeah, the amount of absurd doubling down is epic.


Oh, and from his obituary:

In honor of Ray, please get vaccinated if you have not, in an effort to free up resources for non COVID related emergencies. Due to COVID 19, CRMC emergency staff contacted 43 hospitals in 3 states in search of a Cardiac ICU bed and finally located one in Meridian, MS. He would not want any other family to go through what his did.

 

[seymourflops]

@noonereal, can you please help these guys by simply explaining why you were embarrassed by your source?

Thanks.

 

[noonereal]

The vaccine does absolutely nothing to prevent you getting the virus, or transmitting it.

I need you to stop posting blatant lies, it is dangerous to my community, the uSA of America.

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

Yes, many sources are now copying and pasting the story from the "Montgomery Advertiser." By his own actions, noonereal tell us that this is not a worthy source.

Are you denying that people who are not sick with covid are dying because all the ICU beds are taken by covid patients? Because that is what this thread is all about..... Not your personal vendetta against noonereal.

 

[watsup]

T

Thanks for the morning laugh!

The "Montgomery Advertiser?"

If even CNN can tell it's fake, you should be able to.

Interesting that you just said "The story can be source at Montgomery Advertiser," instead of a link. Why would that be?

After 43 hospitals turn away Alabama man who needed ICU bed, obituary urges COVID vaccines

Ray Martin DeMonia of Cullman died on Sept. 1 in Meridian, Mississippi. His family struggled to find care, saying 43 hospitals had no ICU bed for him.

www.montgomeryadvertiser.com

If this really happened, the COVID Nazis in the media would be trumpeting this story almost as much as it trumpeted people taking "horse de-wormer."

Give us a real source, or admit this is a hoax.

It’s not a hoax. Can you show that to be so. Didn’t think so!

 

[seymourflops]

Are you denying that people who are not sick with covid are dying because all the ICU beds are taken by covid patients? Because that is what this thread is all about..... Not your personal vendetta against noonereal.

"Personal vendetta?" Drama much?