That's some strong religious dogma right there.
According to materialism which is the religious belief in and of itself.
Funny how there is no actual or valid evidence of any afterlife.
No, just a medical explanation of cause.
Prove an actual afterlife beyond the proverbial trick of the mind exists then!
what about respecting the wishes of the deceased? Funerals are not about the ones left behind, but for the one who's gone.
They'll have all the time they'll need after the party
So is a good party.
Funny how you use a very materialistic metric for determining whether something exists.
Within the belief system of materialism. The fundamental flaw of materialism is that it can't explain consciousness.
So use materialism to prove something to a materialist that materialism negates the possibility of existing?
Their wishes died with them. So that's like the same what about the frog Spirit on Mars.
Funerals are about the one who died but they are for the ones left behind. According to your belief system they don't exist anymore in a conscious way so why would you have a party for them.
The funeral is for the people left behind it's not for a person that doesn't exist anymore that doesn't make sense.
What a marvelous imagination you have!
You don't have one? Do you think all imagination is just fake?
Funny how you have nothing to establish anything beyond that.
Says who?
Kind of like an AI. Is an AI material? AI is built around hardware & software. It collects, processes, remembers, and provides information, much like a human mind.
Explain how something "non-marerial" like an "afterlife" exists! Otherwise, it's nothing more than a belief, which is irrational.
So you don't really care about the deceased. It's all about you or what you want? How selfish.
I suppose some people just hate fun.
See post #61.
I'm not locked in the cathedral of materialism you are.
You. Explain what consciousness is don't define it with a dictionary definition explain what it is.
Well I think the misgivings people have about AI is that it's not just material. I think the fear people possess about it is mostly whether or not they're creating consciousness. Whether or not it will expand beyond its material.
Same way consciousness exists. If I stand on the street and observe a car driving by there's not a little tiny car inside my brain that's driving by it's an actual event that's happening and other people can experience it. I can't prove that it happened it's just a phenomenon that you have to take my word for. But because it's something you experienced you understand what happened. And you do so without questioning it.
Well of course it's all about the survivors not just you. The deceased is dead they don't need anything from you anymore so taking the time to remember what impact they had on your life maybe a bit selfish but who would be grudge someone for feeling that way.
Do you know what fun is?
You've offered no rational or demonstrable alternative.
Not use a dictionary to define a word, which is precisely what a dictionary is for? How is that rational?
If there's no hardware or software, there cannot be any consciousness.
Your brain is receiving and processing the sensory input from the environment around you. Thats all it is.
Why wouldn't you question it, especially if it was extraordinary? If you take drugs and "experience" things while on a bad trip, did those experiences actually occur or is your mind simply presenting something false that may "feel" real?
The survivors arent dead yet.
As i said, selfish.
You don't care enough to honor the deceased last wishes?
Yes, a good party with friends, food, drinks, music, and games. Solemn funerals are not fun.
The death of someone you love is a sad time...deal with it, don't run away from it...doing so could cause mental problems down the road...
I did say they'll have all the time they'll need after the party. Besides, a fun party where you can talk about the deceased, reflect on the fun they would have had, and other such things is also a way of dealing with it. Fun and laughter can be therapeutic.
I can't help you expand your thinking you have to do that on your own. You have to unlock the door so your cathedral you have to step out and brave the sunshine.
I did not ask you to define a word. Isn't how it's used in English. I asked you to explain the concept it describes.
No the dictionary is not to obtain meaning. It's to tell you how words are used in the English.
That is materialism dogma.
So like a sophisticated computer running a program. But at the same time you don't believe that there's a programmer.
I don't know why you don't question it I don't know why you take it for granted. This is one of the limitations of materialism.
If you sleep and dream are you just mentally insane for that period of time? Or do dreams really happen?
Living people getting together to celebrate the life of a person who is no longer living is not for the person no longer living that wouldn't make sense.
Because you owe the dead something what are they going to do with it they're dead?
The dead can have no wishes they're dead.
They're not meant to be. Now you're being selfish you want to take someone's tragedy and use it as an excuse to get a hammered and dance.
If you say so
In other words, you have nothing. Just a cop out. Got it.
You want a definition to a word but don't want a definition. Make up your mind.
Yes, words have meaning. That's why we use a dictionary to define them.
And that statement is irrational nonsense.
A computer can learn and think, much like humans do.
Question what specifically? I specifically asked why one wouldn't question something..
It's not much different than people having similar stimuli and reporting the same "sensations." Give people salt, they'll taste salt. Poke them with a needle, they'll feel sharpness, ect..
Dreams are neurological processes. They might be influenced by one's state of mind.
I do. Because facts, reason, and logic.If you say so
Then why have a funeral at all?
The best you can do is come up with some bizarre extreme example?
They (a loved one for example) do not deserve a last respect?
So you cannot honor them and their life?
No one is obligated to come to the party. They're free to wallow in their own misery if they wish. My wishes would relieve that burden from them, even if for a little while. What's more unselfish than that?
Nah, its just your opinion