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Man claims to have seen the afterlife

Desert Storm said:
Before my NDE I was skeptical like you, so I dont blame you for being a skeptic
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Lot's of religious people claim to be skeptical. They're not.
 
Gordy327 said:
What generally comes next is the complete cessation of biological functions, followed by the progressive breakdown and decomposition of organic tissues, eventually becoming worm chow and/or plant fertilizer.
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It really is this simple.

So in a way we don't die but not in the mystical way people portray it.

To our consciousness, we are in the same same state as before we were born. That is, nothing.
 
Desert Storm said:
Before my NDE I was skeptical like you, so I dont blame you for being a skeptic
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Being skeptical would mean I thought the afterlife is not fantasy. I am not skeptical of the afterlife. The concept of the afterlife is as ignorant as thinking up is down.
So-called near-death experiences have been explained, and it has nothing to do with magical beliefs about the afterlife.
 
Gordy327 said:
What generally comes next is the complete cessation of biological functions, followed by the progressive breakdown and decomposition of organic tissues, eventually becoming worm chow and/or plant fertilizer.
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There's also cremation.

Jokes aside, I heard some stories on that podcast that made me think twice.
 
Helix said:
There's also cremation.

Jokes aside, I heard some stories on that podcast that made me think twice.
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I can see the benefits of both. But I do appreciate Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson's take on it [paraphrased], "I want to be buried so that fauna & flora can feed on my energy just as I have fed on fault a & flora in life."
 
noonereal said:
It really is this simple.

So in a way we don't die but not in the mystical way people portray it.

To our consciousness, we are in the same same state as before we were born. That is, nothing.
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Agreed. Basically, our bodies break down into their base elements.
 
Gordy327 said:
I can see the benefits of both. But I do appreciate Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson's take on it [paraphrased], "I want to be buried so that fauna & flora can feed on my energy just as I have fed on fault a & flora in life."
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I haven't decided. The whole embalming thing does seem a little useless, though.
 
Helix said:
I haven't decided. The whole embalming thing does seem a little useless, though.
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Agreed. I don't see the point or practicality behind it.
 
Gordy327 said:
Agreed. I don't see the point or practicality behind it.
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It makes you not rot as much at your funeral. I don't really want one of those, either.
 
Helix said:
It makes you not rot as much at your funeral. I don't really want one of those, either.
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Again, what's the point? I don't want a funeral service either. I prefer everyone to have a party instead, with lots of booze flowing, good food, and some jazz music playing. What better way to celebrate or be celebrated?
 
Gordy327 said:
The studies affirm NDEs have a physiological basis, just as I previously said
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I guess you didnt read this part:

The high percentage of accurate out-of-body observations during near-death experiences does not seem explainable by any possible physical brain function as it is currently known. This is corroborated by OBEs during NDEs that describe accurate observations while they were verifiably clinically comatose.12 Further corroboration comes from the many NDEs that have been reported with accurate OBE observations of events occurring far from their physical body, and beyond any possible physical sensory awareness
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Gordy327 said:
Again, what's the point? I don't want a funeral service either. I prefer everyone to have a party instead, with lots of booze flowing, good food, and some jazz music playing. What better way to celebrate or be celebrated?
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Sounds good, or at least better than a bunch of sober people being upset around my corpse. If there were ever a situation in need of a bar, I'd say it's a funeral, but none of the funeral homes seem to have one. **** all that. Fill a water bottle with vodka and BYOB at mine, I guess.
 
Desert Storm said:
I guess you didnt read this part:
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I did. An experiment needs to be conducted to collaborate NDE reports. Still nothing to suggest an NDE is anything other than a result of neurological processes going awry.
 
Helix said:
Sounds good, or at least better than a bunch of sober people being upset around my corpse. If there were ever a situation in need of a bar, I'd say it's a funeral, but none of the funeral homes seem to have one. **** all that. Fill a water bottle with vodka and BYOB at mine, I guess.
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I'd rather have a bunch of happy drunks than depressed sober people. And everyone should jockularitely toast about what I dirtbag I was with (preferably, but not required) a glass of whiskey. Games should also be available.
 
Desert Storm said:
I've had an NDE (near-death experience) myself, and I can attest this article is pretty much spot on
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"His extraordinary findings are published in his latest book..."
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These aren't "findings." A so-called psychic claims to have been in contact with some guy who died 23 years ago who explains it all? You want to explain the mechanisms at play here?

If you want a more rational explanation for near death experiences, among other things, I strongly suggest Timothy Ferris's The Mind's Sky, Human Intelligence in a Cosmic Context.
 
Desert Storm said:
I guess you didnt read this part:

"The high percentage of accurate out-of-body observations during near-death experiences does not seem explainable by any possible physical brain function as it is currently known."
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Actually, that's false. As Timothy Ferris explains, near-death experiences—like seeing a tunnel of light, a sense of floating, or life review—can be explained by neurological and physiological responses in the brain during trauma or oxygen deprivation. He notes the consistency of certain NDE reports across cultures, while emphasizing that these experiences, though powerful and often transformative for those who undergo them, likely originate in the physical processes of the mind rather than pointing to evidence of an afterlife.
 
Gordy327 said:
I did. An experiment needs to be conducted to collaborate NDE reports. Still nothing to suggest an NDE is anything other than a result of neurological processes going awry
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If its nothing other than a result of neurological processes going awry, then how do you explain patients dying on operating tables and being able to describe what surgeons were wearing, what happened in hospital hallways, and even things that happened outside of the hospital??
 
What person in their right mind would wanna party after their dead loved one has just died?
 
Desert Storm said:
If its nothing other than a result of neurological processes going awry, then how do you explain patients dying on operating tables and being able to describe what surgeons were wearing, what happened in hospital hallways, and even things that happened outside of the hospital??
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Surgical attire among hospital staff is largely the same. What are the circumstances and external stimuli a patient experiences before "death?" They could be repeating NDE claims or stories they heard before, possibly subconsciously incorporating what they experienced and/or heard into their own memory or thoughts. There are lots of rational possibilities to explain it. And that's assuming a patient isn't lying about it.
 
Daisy said:
What person in their right mind would wanna party after their dead loved one has just died?
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If said loved one asked for a party and fun instead of a depressing service, why would one not honor that wish? Why be sad when one can be happy instead? There's plenty of time later to deal with grief. A good "funeral" shouldn't be wasted on it.
 
Gordy327 said:
If said loved one asked for a party and fun instead of a depressing service, why would one not honor that wish? Why be sad when one can be happy instead? There's plenty of time later to deal with grief. A good "funeral" shouldn't be wasted on it.
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I think the request is disrespectful to the loved ones left behind...allow them their time to grieve...funerals are for saying good bye...closure...
 
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