Main reason Trump is hated (1 Viewer)

[zimmer]

What's main reason Trump is So hated

Why so hated... this former Democrat who had one of the most popular shows on TV and has developed some great properties?

Because he is unabashedly pro-American and is known for getting things done.

He’s an outsider.

To Leftists this is a serious threat... because they know he means what he says. He’s not beholden to anyone... and didn’t need this job.

It means halting and reversing the Leftist agenda and their destruction. When that’s done, and people see the positive result... The Left’s bull**** socialist scheme becomes vastly more difficult to sell.

For the Left... that’s a ****ing nightmare... that’s come true despite their best efforts to sabotage him and his administration.

 

[jaypatriot]

I have tried to steer this conversation away from Hillary Clinton repeatedly. The Trumpists love nothing more than to talk about her. Well, they might like to talk about Obama either as much or just a little bit more. You spent three more paragraphs on both of them. I find it a waste of time and energy.

You're right. Three paragraphs about Hillary is a waste of time and energy.
Suffice it to say we are here at this point in time because Hillary was an incompetent candidate who did not pay attention to those states that mattered in the end. C'est la guerre.

 

[jaypatriot]

That's a heady request. My feelings about Trump as a human are not secret. You quoted some of them. Obtuse people and musings bore me.

My feelings about Trump as a candidate are complex. Perhaps you anticipated the differentiation when you bolded and italicized the phrase "objective opinion". Trump has at least as good a chance at winning in November as Biden does. Did I answer your questions that you weren't even polite enough to pose in question form?

Good one, diesel,
YOur sarcasm is almost as cutting as mine.

 

[jaypatriot]

Your entire opinion is based on something not even real. Good grief.

I believe the Captain's opinion is based on the start reality of millions of people who had their hopes shattered by an incompetent candidate who was anointed by the Chosen One, Obama..
How many times over the past three did I have to steer the conversation away from Mueller and Comey because my "acquaintances" were hoping idiot Rachel Maddow, Adam Schiff, and Mueller were going to deliver them a victory that would make all those anti-Trumpers finally breathe a sigh of relief that "justice" was finally done.
I stifled my opinions about a witch hunt and conspiracy because, at the time, conspiracy theorists believed there had to be a reason why Trump won and the "anointed" queen lost. He couldn't have done it based on his intuition and campaigning skills.
You want something "real"? Look at the Electoral College results from 2016. That's the only reality that matters until November.

 

[jaypatriot]

Proper choices like...he's a failed business man with 3 bankruptcies under his belt, forced to pay off fraud fine for Trump U., years worth of lawsuits for cheating people out of payment, cheated on his wives, compulsive liar, not very smart, too thin-skinned, doesn't understand how government or the Constitution works, makes America look bad, is outplayed by leaders in the rest of the world, not very American, not very Christian...and most damning of all, I am not better off with him as president.

I don't think those are things to hate him for...but certainly reasons why he shouldn't be president.

I wonder what Trump might have done to make you "not better off" because he is president.
Were you hoping for a down economy in 2017 thru 2019?
Were you shorting stocks because you thought the economy would tank because he was elected?
Because Trump is so bad you have been harmed psychologically?
Did you lose a big bet because you were confident Hillary would win?

 

[jaypatriot]

Hated is such a strong word. Now if you go to question 100, Trump's likability you'll see it was broken down into like a lot, like somewhat, neither like nor dislike, dislike somewhat and dislike a lot. Perhaps dislike a lot could be equated to hate and like a lot to love as it seems for most, they either love Trump or hate Trump.

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/5fsvmrvvhh/econTabReport.pdf

Now as you can see, Democrats really dislike Trump a lot, Republicans like him a lot. So that is basically based on the letter behind Trump's name. but what about independent? the non-affiliated, less to non-partisans. Only 13% like Trump a lot, add the 12% who like him somewhat you have a total of 25% of like Trump. Now you have 33% of independents who dislike him a lot along with 13% who dislike him somewhat for a total of 46% of independents who dislike Trump. 20% answered they neither like nor dislike Trump.

I concentrated on independents here as Democrats disliking Trump is to be expected as Republicans liking him is. So why do independents dislike Trump so much? If you check out his policies and his stances on the issues, independents are fairly split on those, for some, against some and don't care on others. So one would normally expect more of a 50-50 split on the like/don't like scale instead of a 25/46 like/dislike. Why?

I think this has more to do with Trump himself than his policies or even his politics. His very unpresidential behavior, his childish antics, his temper tantrums, his name calling, his bullying. One doesn't expect these things out of the president of the United States. I'd say with independents, swing voters if you will, the non-affiliated, it's his uncouth, obnoxious personality. I personally think that it will be Trump's in your face, bullying persona that will defeat him in November much more than his policies or what he has done as presidents or even his politics.

Independents voted for Trump in 2016 by a 46-42 margin over Hillary with 12% voting third party against both major party candidates. I think independents this time around as in the 2018 midterms will go for the Democrat. Because of Trump himself and his rude, childish, unpresidential behavior. These folks actually expect a president to act presidential, you'll see.

perotista,
I think you analysis is pretty much on target. It's one I will save in my War Against Trump mail folder.
Thanks for not ruining it by spewing out hateful comments about the president which add nothing to thinking about this November.

 

[Eriech]

I never hated Obama, don't much care for those that voted for him twice but do not hate them. The only politician that I ever truly hated was John McCain.....he's dead now so I am free from that.

The reason that people hate Trump more than the typical racist homophobe, misogynist Republican is that he is winning. Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney, all losers, adored relatively.

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[Diesel]

Damn right it is but you know the saying, "politics is a bitch"..

So is Hillary.

I did not say that! :lol:

 

[jaypatriot]

Don't tell me how I feel or think that is for losers that think they can control me and the narrative. Only short sighted fools think they can change what I said..

I said, I hate Hillary as much as I hate Trump. Hate is not the same emotion as being angry. You have failed to change me or the narrative..

ok
So we both agree on our dislike for both HIllary and Trump.
I chose to not vote for either candidate almost four years ago.

But I am glad Hillary is not president. We don't need predator Bill in the White House again.
And Trump is not fooling around in the White House.

 

[Diesel]

Good one, diesel,
YOur sarcasm is almost as cutting as mine.

Nothing I wrote was sarcastic.

 

[Cassandra]

IMO? For the vast majority (but not all) it is a form of TDS.

Back when I was working on my first college degree, I took sociology for two semesters. One of the things I learned about was how some people can be so affected by a shock to their foundational beliefs that their whole worldview can be skewed/changed.

It was called experiencing a significant emotional event. Other's call it a psychic shock, and some other current name I cannot recall.

For months people were told who was going to be elected President, and who was not.

Then, he won.

Many people who had their foundations knocked out from under them desperately sought for reasons. We've seen the results as they grasped at ANY justification for this failure of expectations to be a "cheat."

They cheered the Collusion narrative and found white knight's of the resistance in people like Comey, Brennan, Clapper, etc.. When that finally collapsed, albeit taking three years to do so, they simply can't accept it.

Trump HAD to win by cheating...there can be no other "rational" explanation.

They can't change on their own.

It would take another significant emotional event, only this time something which could shock them into acceptance it was not their "fault." To realize it was the fault of those "trusted information sources" who truly misled them, and is still doing so today.

Meanwhile, they will keep feeding on the "all-hate all-the-time" anti-Trump propaganda. Admittedly, Trump being Trump, he can't help "stoking the fires" himself.

That's my opinion anyway. :shrug:

Trump is hated because he's not part of the Big Club.

Trump laughs at the bullies and they cannot stand it. Worse, he calls them on their bull ****, which has ruined a long list or Republicans, including both Presidents Bush.

Worst of all, he has been succeeding.

I find it interesting that so many conservatives on this site think they know why half the nation rejects Trump, (the posts are wildly at odds with what never- Trumpers are saying about their reasons) rather than listening to the explanations of the people on this site who have an actual explanation for why they/we cannot abide the man. It is one reason why this country is falling apart.

So few people are interested in hearing what the other is saying- not withstanding it is clearly stated in print.

 

[mrdeltoid]

I detest Trump because by crashing through norms of conduct, he's undermining our democracy.

Our democracy stands on several things: a free and aggressive media; the rule of law; the principle of one person, one vote; and the separation of powers among the three branches of government.

Trump and his Republican enablers are attacking all of these.

On top of all of that, he's also vulgar and immature. He's an embarrassment to the nation. The US is seriously diminished in the eyes of the world.

The MSM is biased and carrying water for the democrat party. The rule of law has been diminished by a crooked FBI director who oversaw the falsifying of documents and lied to the FISA court to spy on the incoming administration. The principle of one person one vote??? We live in a republic, not a total democracy. Democracy without controls is mob rule. And the separation of powers? You say this while Sullivan is prosecuting from the bench? Are you kidding? Good lord. Get a grip man.
Vulgar and immature? OK, I'll agree with you on that. I don't care for him at all. I hate all the tweeting, and bear baiting he does. He wouldn't last a day in my circle of brothers.

 

[Perotista]

perotista,
I think you analysis is pretty much on target. It's one I will save in my War Against Trump mail folder.
Thanks for not ruining it by spewing out hateful comments about the president which add nothing to thinking about this November.

I was one of 9 million who didn't like or I should say was totally disgusted with the choices both major parties came up with. So I voted third party against both. My feeling on Trump hasn't changed as he hasn't changed his way or behavior. I'll be honest though, there have been some issues I supported Trump on and some I opposed and a whole lot I didn't care a thing about. Just like every other president in my lifetime.

This time around I'll vote for Biden mainly because Biden isn't Trump nor Hillary Clinton. I can live with old Joe. The big question for this coming November is how many of those 9 million who voted against both Trump and Clinton will vote for Biden this time mainly because Biden isn't Hillary. They didn't like Trump in 2016 and I don't think many have changed their minds come 2020. But we'll see. stranger things have happened.

 

[Nickyjo]

What's main reason Trump is So hated

He spreads hatred.

 

[MSgt]

What's main reason Trump is So hated

There can't be a main reason:

- Trump's 61% unfavorable candidate score is the worst in presidential polling history?

- Greatest recorded liar in history?

- Shattered numerous Constitutional norms?

- Worst First 100 Days in recorded history?

- Best approval rating is only 49%, with highest party polarization on record?

- Worst revolving door in Administration history, with his "A Team" turnover at 85% as of April 13, 2020?

- Totally exacerbated wealth inequality?

- He jettisoned the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the largest proposed free trade deal in history culminating in billions of dollars, which left the door open for Beijing?

- His 2017 Tax-Cut and Jobs Act is shoving the country towards bankruptcy?

- Significantly increased debt in such a way that even Obama looks frugal?

- Significantly reduced American influence in virtually every region on the planet?

- Impeached for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress after using the Office to try to commit treason by coercing a foreign government to harm Americans and interfere with American democracy?

- He is a walking and breathing contradiction to even his own published 2017 National Security Strategy?

- As this virus fiasco proves well enough, he takes pride in being a blame-sprayer for everything.

- Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) reports that Trump has amassed 3,000 conflicts of interest since taking office?

- He brought his career of corruption, involving Russian oligarchs and convicted felons, to the White House to carry on the routine?

- The political scientists surveyed in a Brookings Institution report found Donald Trump to be America's most polarizing president by a wide margin?



There is so, so much more to detest this draft-dodging, callous, silver-spooned, egocentric, traitorous subhuman for. The above was just a quick wealth of economic, social, and foreign policy reasons to look at Trump with sheer disgust.

- Mishandled North Korea?
- Mishandled his trade war crusade with China?
- Mishandled illegal immigration?
- Mishandled the American budget?
- Mishandled Syria?
- Mishandled the Iran deal?
- Mishandled TTIP?
- Mishandled COVID-19?

This question is easy. The tough question to answer is why so many people have their lips crammed deep in this piece of ****'s asshole. Ask just one of them to explain MAGA.

 

[jaypatriot]

I was one of 9 million who didn't like or I should say was totally disgusted with the choices both major parties came up with. So I voted third party against both. My feeling on Trump hasn't changed as he hasn't changed his way or behavior. I'll be honest though, there have been some issues I supported Trump on and some I opposed and a whole lot I didn't care a thing about. Just like every other president in my lifetime.

This time around I'll vote for Biden mainly because Biden isn't Trump nor Hillary Clinton. I can live with old Joe. The big question for this coming November is how many of those 9 million who voted against both Trump and Clinton will vote for Biden this time mainly because Biden isn't Hillary. They didn't like Trump in 2016 and I don't think many have changed their minds come 2020. But we'll see. stranger things have happened.

Bottom line is: We just don't know what we don't know.
There is no Jill Stein or Gary Johnson to siphon votes away from Trump or Biden.

 

[Jay59]

oh my god. I can't with you people. You're like those Japanese soldiers on islands and in the jungle that thought WWII was still ongoing in the 1970s. You go ahead and live in Hillary and Barack land for the rest of your life. It makes no difference to me.

Now you are being a drama queen. All anyone wants is accountability.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Can anyone please find me one liberal anywhere who actually doesn't like Trump cuz Hillary? Please. I'm asking really nicely. The only people who have been talking about that woman for years are Trump people. It's ****ing weird.

I have not seen nor read by any Democrat a liberal point of view. They sure post hateful material though.

 

[Robertinfremont]

He spreads hatred.

Come on, if that media attacked you daily as they attack him, they might call you a hater too.

 

[dairyair]

There were no other narcissist running in '16. were there?

Geez..u people are blinded by your double standards

None that got elected.

You asked an opinion in the OP and you get all triggered with an answer. Foolish.

 

[Perotista]

Bottom line is: We just don't know what we don't know.
There is no Jill Stein or Gary Johnson to siphon votes away from Trump or Biden.

You can tell that from the polls. RCP averages has Biden at 47.7%, Trump at 42.4% leaving roughly 10% who intend to vote third party or are undecided.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Biden

This time back in 2016, Trump was trailing Hillary by the same 5 points he is trailing Biden today. In 2016 the polls were showing Hillary with 42%, Trump 37%, 21% third party or undecided. This means in 2016 Trump had a pool of 21% of the electorate to pull from to catch Hillary. He didn't need to change a single Hillary supporter to support him or change their vote to him. 21% is a very large pool. Today that pool is roughly 10%. Much smaller which means Trump will somehow have to convince at least some Biden supporters to jump ship and come over to him. That's something Trump didn't need to do four years ago.

In short, Biden's five point lead today is a much stronger lead than Hillary's 5 point lead at this point in time in 2016. Call this my long winded way of saying, yes, I agree.

 

[Rexedgar]

Trump is hated because he's not part of the Big Club.

....and he never will be; that chaps his ass........

 

[Rexedgar]

You can tell that from the polls. RCP averages has Biden at 47.7%, Trump at 42.4% leaving roughly 10% who intend to vote third party or are undecided.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Biden

This time back in 2016, Trump was trailing Hillary by the same 5 points he is trailing Biden today. In 2016 the polls were showing Hillary with 42%, Trump 37%, 21% third party or undecided. This means in 2016 Trump had a pool of 21% of the electorate to pull from to catch Hillary. He didn't need to change a single Hillary supporter to support him or change their vote to him. 21% is a very large pool. Today that pool is roughly 10%. Much smaller which means Trump will somehow have to convince at least some Biden supporters to jump ship and come over to him. That's something Trump didn't need to do four years ago.

In short, Biden's five point lead today is a much stronger lead than Hillary's 5 point lead at this point in time in 2016. Call this my long winded way of saying, yes, I agree.

This time “what do you have to lose” is a known quantity!

 

[jpn]

The MSM is biased and carrying water for the democrat party. The rule of law has been diminished by a crooked FBI director who oversaw the falsifying of documents and lied to the FISA court to spy on the incoming administration. The principle of one person one vote??? We live in a republic, not a total democracy. Democracy without controls is mob rule. And the separation of powers? You say this while Sullivan is prosecuting from the bench? Are you kidding? Good lord. Get a grip man.
Vulgar and immature? OK, I'll agree with you on that. I don't care for him at all. I hate all the tweeting, and bear baiting he does. He wouldn't last a day in my circle of brothers.

Thanks for the reply. If you feel the MSM is biased, where do you turn to find unbiased reporting?

The FBI launched an investigation into the Trump campaign when they learned of Trump campaign member George Papadopoulos's early assertions of Russians having damaging material on Donald Trump's rival candidate Hillary Clinton. On May 6, 2016 Papadopoulos met Alexander Downer, the Australian High Commissioner to Britain in a London bar, and told him about the Clinton emails over drinks. After WikiLeaks released hacked Democratic National Committee (DNC) emails on July 22, the Australian government on July 26 advised American authorities of the encounter between Downer and Papadopoulos, which spurred the FBI into launching the Crossfire Hurricane investigation on July 31.

Sounds entirely reasonable.

Regarding voting, I'm aware of how representative democracy works. I was referring to the Republican Party's voter suppression efforts. There's also Gerrymandering, which both sides have engaged in--although the GOP took it to another level after 2010.

Sullivan is trying to deal with the unprecedented attempt by the politically compromised Trump DOJ to withdraw charges on a defendant who had already pleaded guilty. None of the career prosecuting attorneys agreed to sign the motion to dismiss, and one quit the case rather than participate in this latest example of Republican contempt for independent justice. The only person who would sign the motion was the Trump-appointed flunky. Some months earlier, four career PA's quit the Roger Stone case rather than sign on to Barr's decision to ask for a reduced sentence for Stone.

 

[bomberfox]

Part due to him being an asshole and part due to snowflakes ****ing freaking out over non-issues creating mass hysteria.

Wow someone beat me on your comment sig . Most media companies should have stopped going to trump’s town halls but hey its profitable.