Mail order brides

[The_Penguin]

I gotta ask. Why is there such a social stigma against it? I remember talking to several people about it and they all cringed and gave negative responses when I mentioned this. Call me dense, but what's the big problem of finding a girl online (often from a different country)? The prospect of her getting the green card and then leaving you?

Thoughts? What are your experiences with it, if any?

 

[TheGirlNextDoor]

I gotta ask. Why is there such a social stigma against it? I remember talking to several people about it and they all cringed and gave negative responses when I mentioned this. Call me dense, but what's the big problem of finding a girl online (often from a different country)? The prospect of her getting the green card and then leaving you?

Thoughts? What are your experiences with it, if any?

I would be worried about being taken advantage of, in the respect of being used as a catalyst to escape someone else's oppressive country. What's to keep a "mail order bride" from using you to escape to America, only to marry you, stay married for a bit, divorce and then stay here? Then what? Draw off of government programs that you and I pay into?

I realize that is the worst case scenario and I will admit it is being close minded on my part - but I do believe that would be a very real con to this sort of thing.

Personally, I'm a romantic at heart and the whole idea of 'ordering' a partner, just seems wrong. :shrug: Like anything, I think it would be a live and let live decision, but I don't see many pros to this sort of thing.

 

[CrusaderRabbit08]

Personally, I'm a romantic at heart and the whole idea of 'ordering' a partner, just seems wrong. :shrug:

I ordered a partner :mrgreen:

..but she's out of commission until I can get my air compressor fixed

 

[TheGirlNextDoor]

I ordered a partner :mrgreen:

..but she's out of commission until I can get my air compressor fixed

LOL.. damn you Rabbit! :lol:

 

[The_Penguin]

I would be worried about being taken advantage of, in the respect of being used as a catalyst to escape someone else's oppressive country. What's to keep a "mail order bride" from using you to escape to America, only to marry you, stay married for a bit, divorce and then stay here? Then what? Draw off of government programs that you and I pay into?

I realize that is the worst case scenario and I will admit it is being close minded on my part - but I do believe that would be a very real con to this sort of thing.

Point taken.

Personally, I'm a romantic at heart and the whole idea of 'ordering' a partner, just seems wrong. :shrug: Like anything, I think it would be a live and let live decision, but I don't see many pros to this sort of thing.

Yeh, depends on what you want. If you just want to marry for the sake of having kids, then that's not an issue.

 

[TheGirlNextDoor]

Point taken.

Yeh, depends on what you want. If you just want to marry for the sake of having kids, then that's not an issue.

Yeah, I wasn't even thinking about kids. I mean to spend the rest of your life with. :shrug:

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

There's a stigma attached because it implies that a man cannot find a suitable mate on his own-- that he is in some fashion socially defective.

There's also the myth in this country that "true love" is something unpredictable and random that happens to two people, as opposed to the product of extraordinary commitment and effort on their part. According to this myth, any kind of pragmatic arrangement between intended spouses is a betrayal not only of the principle of romantic love, but of their own hearts.

I don't have any experiences with the practice. On the other hand, I do like to go "window shopping" on some of the websites when I'm lonely and depressed-- it's better than wallowing in self-pity.

 

[Hoplite]

I gotta ask. Why is there such a social stigma against it? I remember talking to several people about it and they all cringed and gave negative responses when I mentioned this.

Its not the social norm so people will naturally be a little squeamish about it.

Partly because there are a lot of the "they're taking our jobs" crowd that sees it as a way to skirt immigration law and get people into the country who would normally not be allowed in.

Also, we have a very idealized view of love and marriage in this country and "mail order brides" break that expectation rather stiffly over the knee. Americans dont like it when our fantasies are ****ed with.

On top of all that, it seems strange to people who are accustomed to love happening once you get to know someone and they dont feel that you can get to know someone enough over the internet or mail to justify marrying them.

Call me dense, but what's the big problem of finding a girl online (often from a different country)? The prospect of her getting the green card and then leaving you?

I'd say that's no small part of it. I would be hesitant about it simply because I wouldn't really be able to interact with that person on any real deep level because I couldnt actually see them.

Thoughts? What are your experiences with it, if any?

I have some issues with it simply because it's a commercialization of something that isnt supposed to be that way and the potential for abuse is something to consider. But if it's going on in a completely voluntary way with both parties protected, I dont see a real problem.

 

[Erod]

The stigma? Are you serious?

"Mail Order Bride" implies that you don't have the social skills of a door knob, and that you've resorted to somewhat of a slave trade in which a woman halfway around the world completely out of options would basically have sex with you in order to get our of her predicament. That, or your online porn addiction has degenerated to the point that you're willing to "buy" an 18-year-old blonde Russian girl basically for your sexual purposes.

That's a mix of prostitution, slavery, and perhaps even pedophillia.

Other than that, it's cool.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

I gotta ask. Why is there such a social stigma against it? I remember talking to several people about it and they all cringed and gave negative responses when I mentioned this. Call me dense, but what's the big problem of finding a girl online (often from a different country)? The prospect of her getting the green card and then leaving you?

Thoughts? What are your experiences with it, if any?

I think this pretty much explains it:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDrITaBPdt8"]YouTube- Little Britain -Ting Tong part 1[/ame]

 

[spud_meister]

I ordered a partner :mrgreen:

..but she's out of commission until I can get my air compressor fixed

:rofl mines got this nozzle you can blow into, just at the base of the stomach, its real handy

 

[Orion]

The only problem I have with it is that it is sometimes used to lure women into underground sex trafficking and de facto indentured servititude against their will once they arrive in the host country.

 

[Gray_Fox_86]

I don't have any problem with it. I figured i am doing the right thing by bringing a women out of a crap hole and to at least give her a chance in a good country like this one. its a blessing for her and I. but mostly for her.

 

[Skateguy]

My Neighbor got his new bride, from Russia, last June. I see her working in the yard, just happy as a lark, tending to her flowers and what not. she is tall and beautiful, but has yet to make eye contact, or acknowledge my existence. I'm a good neighbor, so keep to myself. My neighbor tells me she is a great cook, and unbelievable in the sack. (he could be lying) But I'm waiting to see how things work out for him, and saving my money.

 

[USA_1]

I gotta ask. Why is there such a social stigma against it? I remember talking to several people about it and they all cringed and gave negative responses when I mentioned this. Call me dense, but what's the big problem of finding a girl online (often from a different country)? The prospect of her getting the green card and then leaving you?

Thoughts? What are your experiences with it, if any?

The days of the mail order bride is over. In order to obtain a visa for a fiance, one has to prove by photos, correspondence hotel bills, etc that a relationship exists. You can find a girl online, but you have to visit her country and meet her before you can get a visa to bring her here.

 

[Gray_Fox_86]

The days of the mail order bride is over. In order to obtain a visa for a fiance, one has to prove by photos, correspondence hotel bills, etc that a relationship exists. You can find a girl online, but you have to visit her country and meet her before you can get a visa to bring her here.

and don't forget that the women has to have at least two children in seven years before she can get her green card, it doesn't count anymore just marrying an american.

 

[USA_1]

and don't forget that the women has to have at least two children in seven years before she can get her green card, it doesn't count anymore just marrying an american.

That is not correct. If a woman comes to the US on a fiance visa she has 90 days to apply for temporary resident green card. After two years she has to renew it and get a permanent resident green card good for ten years. After 3 years in this country she can apply for citizenship. Having children has nothing to do with it.

 

[Skateguy]

You can get one from South of the border, for $3.75. :mrgreen:

 

[Kali]

You can get one from South of the border, for $3.75. :mrgreen:

:roll: You really are something else..

 

[Gray_Fox_86]

You can get one from South of the border, for $3.75. :mrgreen:

Living in a world where vampires are the dominant species is about as safe as bare backing a 5 dollar whore.

 

[Skateguy]

Living in a world where vampires are the dominant species is about as safe as bare backing a 5 dollar whore.

As ole Bill use to say--You don't actually have sex with them. You never take yer pants off. :mrgreen:

 

[Kushinator]

While i dont have a problem with it, i would much rather go to the particular country and actually date girls. At this point, i am kinda sick of American girls. They are so driven and career orientated, to the point where it is unenjoyable at times. Don't get me wrong, American girls are absolutely gorgeous. But..... This younger generation has come into a sense of shallowness.

Personally, i plan to travel eastern Europe to find a wife in about 3 years. I wouldn't order one though; what if i didn't like her? What if she didn't "do it for me" when she got here?

In the meantime ill date American girls until it is time to settle down.

BTW.... The most beautiful girls come from Bulgaria (IMHO). Simply amazing i tell you.

 

[Gray_Fox_86]

While i dont have a problem with it, i would much rather go to the particular country and actually date girls. At this point, i am kinda sick of American girls. They are so driven and career orientated, to the point where it is unenjoyable at times. Don't get me wrong, American girls are absolutely gorgeous. But..... This younger generation has come into a sense of shallowness.

Personally, i plan to travel eastern Europe to find a wife in about 3 years. I wouldn't order one though; what if i didn't like her? What if she didn't "do it for me" when she got here?

In the meantime ill date American girls until it is time to settle down.

BTW.... The most beautiful girls come from Bulgaria (IMHO). Simply amazing i tell you.

No the most beautiful girls do not come from Bulgaria, they come from Poland! Trust me on that the Polish girls have all been just wonderful in personality, sexiness, loyalty, etc. The bad part is that many of them at an early age get married or are involved in serious relationships.

But I too plan on travelling to Europe for a girl if it doesn't work out well here in the Chicago area. But I choose a country for the quality of women it will most definately be Poland.

 

[Kushinator]

No the most beautiful girls do not come from Bulgaria, they come from Poland!

Agree to disagree.

Trust me on that the Polish girls have all been just wonderful in personality, sexiness, loyalty, etc. The bad part is that many of them at an early age get married or are involved in serious relationships.

No.... Trust me:mrgreen: Besides, Bulgarian chicks are suckers for my blue eyes so it makes encounters so simple.

But I too plan on traveling to Europe for a girl if it doesn't work out well here in the Chicago area. But I choose a country for the quality of women it will most definitely be Poland.

Don't get me wrong, Polish girls are amazing (im half Polish). However.......... if my last trip to Europe has taught me anything (i just got back monday morning) it is that Bulgarian chicks are the hidden gem of Europe. If you would have asked me this question a month ago, i might agree (although i like the women from Belarus as well).

Maybe it is the whole "opposites attract" thing. :shrug:

 

[ALiberalModerate]

While i dont have a problem with it, i would much rather go to the particular country and actually date girls. At this point, i am kinda sick of American girls. They are so driven and career orientated, to the point where it is unenjoyable at times. Don't get me wrong, American girls are absolutely gorgeous. But..... This younger generation has come into a sense of shallowness.

Personally, i plan to travel eastern Europe to find a wife in about 3 years. I wouldn't order one though; what if i didn't like her? What if she didn't "do it for me" when she got here?

In the meantime ill date American girls until it is time to settle down.

BTW.... The most beautiful girls come from Bulgaria (IMHO). Simply amazing i tell you.

Any woman from a former communist bloc country is going to be high maintenance once you bring them over here to the states.