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Mafia #3.3.2 - Pasch's PacMan Mayhem v2

Solaris said:
Including tha misgame which peeps got a pm about the pellet? And would ya share word for word what the pm said about it?
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I waited for Mark to go first, in case he was scum and had a different PM. I confirmed his and then Thor (misgame pellet starter) confirmed.
 
The Mark - 1 (Solaris)
Solaris - 1 (Capslock)
Fisher - 1 (Chad, Ecofarm)
Ecofarm - 1 (Fisher)

Not Voting (4): X Factor, Thorgasm, Helix, TheMark

I think that is correct. 4 players not voting with a day left after over a week is weak.
 
The Mark said:
I think I may have explained this last game, but, as I see it...
On Day 1 there are 4 possible outcomes:
  1. lynch a VT (mislynch)
  2. lynch a PR (also mislynch, but worse)
  3. lynch a mafia player
  4. No-lynch.

Now...
I consider a no-lynch to be the worst of those four options because...
We enter day 2 with less information.
If we do NOTHING on day 1, it allows scum to enter night 1 without town having gained ANY information - and yes, while the death of a townie is bad, it also gives information - namely, "oh, that guy WAS town, now we can see who was targeting him, which might indicate they are scum."

That's why I consider a no-lynch to be PRO-SCUM.

But.

I don't think Thor is scum.

##Unvote

However, YOU are seemingly crazy, so my list is now:

Fisher
Solaris
X Factor
Chad

Now I just kinda threw the last 2 names on there...but in general...
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Obviously I am not going to trust the judgment on anything of someone who is voting against me since I know I am not scum. You certainly didn't seem to mind just shoving the pellet off to eco before you knew anything about him so I cannot really buy that whole "we need info" bit of yours since clearly you did not when the rubber met the road. I am sure you are town--cowardly town--but town nonetheless. If I were scum, I certainly wouldn't lynch you. You are easily manipulated.
 
Fisher said:
Obviously I am not going to trust the judgment on anything of someone who is voting against me since I know I am not scum. You certainly didn't seem to mind just shoving the pellet off to eco before you knew anything about him so I cannot really buy that whole "we need info" bit of yours since clearly you did not when the rubber met the road. I am sure you are town--cowardly town--but town nonetheless. If I were scum, I certainly wouldn't lynch you. You are easily manipulated.
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TheMark got info by giving the pellet. Was it risky? Yes, even with 3:1 odds. As the PM stated, ~"don't get a Ghost get it". If I were a Ghost, I think the effect would have been immediate. In there being no apparent affect, he learned that I am town.

His move is, in fact, consistent with trying to gain information.
 
Vote Count

The Mark - 1 (Solaris)
Solaris - 1 (Capslock)
Fisher - 2 (Chad, Ecofarm)
Ecofarm - 1 (Fisher)

Not Voting (4): X Factor, Thorgasm, Helix, The Mark

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 1 ends at the end of Monday, April 8th, Eastern Time.
 
ecofarm said:
TheMark got info by giving the pellet. Was it risky? Yes, even with 3:1 odds. As the PM stated, ~"don't get a Ghost get it". If I were a Ghost, I think the effect would have been immediate. In there being no apparent affect, he learned that I am town.

His move is, in fact, consistent with trying to gain information.
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Also, I just wanted to see what would happen.
 
The Mark said:
Also, I just wanted to see what would happen.
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I think holding the item would have lost information for the barren Day 1 search.
 
ecofarm said:
I waited for Mark to go first, in case he was scum and had a different PM. I confirmed his and then Thor (misgame pellet starter) confirmed.
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Would ya restate that please so it makes sense? So Peepgasm and the Peep and you received the pellet and who else? If and and the Peep were making this all up it wouldn't explain Peepgasm having it last game. You might be telling the truth but surely you should stop with the godfather crap and stuff ya little runt! If your town this game and the Peep started as Scum it'd be weird for scum ta start with a pellet unless he was forced ta give it. Likely you ma Peeper and the Peep are town. That leaves tha rest and a lot a them are sneaky. The Peep still is a bit off with tha actions he decides and the timings of it. Don't think ya aren't still going ta be scrutinized!
 
We HAVE to lynch someone. At least IMO.

I am tempted to vote for Fisher because he's so vocal and crazy-seeming, but then again such votes are usually wrong, at least when I make em...


Still, he's the best candidate I see atm. Which probably means he's town, given my luck...
 
The Mark said:
We HAVE to lynch someone. At least IMO.

I am tempted to vote for Fisher because he's so vocal and crazy-seeming, but then again such votes are usually wrong, at least when I make em...


Still, he's the best candidate I see atm. Which probably means he's town, given my luck...
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You can vote for someone else on your list (to see what happens), and change it later if you want. But we need to get votes in.
 
Solaris said:
Would ya restate that please so it makes sense? So Peepgasm and the Peep and you received the pellet and who else? If and and the Peep were making this all up it wouldn't explain Peepgasm having it last game. You might be telling the truth but surely you should stop with the godfather crap and stuff ya little runt! If your town this game and the Peep started as Scum it'd be weird for scum ta start with a pellet unless he was forced ta give it. Likely you ma Peeper and the Peep are town. That leaves tha rest and a lot a them are sneaky. The Peep still is a bit off with tha actions he decides and the timings of it. Don't think ya aren't still going ta be scrutinized!
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Chain of events (so far as I am aware, at least):
Night 0 - my role PM states that I am holding "the Big Pellet", and can pass it to someone on any night including night 0.
Night 0 - I decide "****itall", and pass it to ecofarm.
Day 1 - ecofarm mentions pellet
Day 1 - I state that I had the pellet and that I passed the pellet to someone.
Day 1 - ecofarm starts questioning me about the pellet, and matching that info with the PM he received when I passed him the pellet. After a period of this, he concludes that I did, indeed, pass him the pellet. I confirm this.


Or something like that.
 
Hey, and what about your "luck" - you got me last game. I shoulda claimed Doc that game as soon as I hit L-1, later seemed too late to be believable, but it still woulda drawn out the Doc for DDD and maybe caused a no-lynch. I gimped the last bit of that Day 1.
 
The Mark said:
Or something like that.
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And then Thor comfirmed our PM. Are we THREE scum? The PM is what it is, and nothing bad happened when Mark gave me the pellet. IIRC, in the course of confirming things, Thor mentioned he was Pineapple and VT with the pellet at the false-start. This further confirms Mark's claims and probably scored points for Thor with TheMark, given that Thor was honest about his previous role. Nonethless, I think Thor is more squirmy than others and he remains the #4 spot on my list.
 
ecofarm said:
I think holding the item would have lost information for the barren Day 1 search.
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This day 1 has been far more active than some, I'll say that.
 
What seems ta be elluding tha conversation is an actual copy/paste of The Peep's role pm with info on the pellet. Hey The Peep, how about you paste it here and you can even blank out your role if ya want.

I want ta see what exactlt tha pm says. Is it mandatory ta give the pellot or not? Who says only townies start with the pellet? If you mark were town and you knew it why wouldn't you just hold it instead of risking passing it to a scum because "**** it all"??

A townie woulds held onto it, yanno. No good townie would risk the town on a **** it all notion! Scum did have time ta talk it through night 0.

No way scum would be behaving like Peeper either! Scum tries ta blend in and be calm, don't ya know?
 
Perhaps we should search the thread for interaction between Peeper and Peepis, and each with others.
 
Solaris said:
What seems ta be elluding tha conversation is an actual copy/paste of The Peep's role pm with info on the pellet. Hey The Peep, how about you paste it here and you can even blank out your role if ya want.

I want ta see what exactlt tha pm says. Is it mandatory ta give the pellot or not? Who says only townies start with the pellet? If you mark were town and you knew it why wouldn't you just hold it instead of risking passing it to a scum because "**** it all"??

A townie woulds held onto it, yanno. No good townie would risk the town on a **** it all notion! Scum did have time ta talk it through night 0.

No way scum would be behaving like Peeper either! Scum tries ta blend in and be calm, don't ya know?
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That is against the rules of the game actually.
 
Solaris said:
What seems ta be elluding tha conversation is an actual copy/paste of The Peep's role pm with info on the pellet. Hey The Peep, how about you paste it here and you can even blank out your role if ya want.
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That is against the rules of the game.

The entire point of Mafia is that you NOT be sure about anything other than your own role, unless you are an investigator who knows he/she is sane.

And when someone dies, then we know something for sure.
 
Solaris said:
I want ta see what exactlt tha pm says. Is it mandatory ta give the pellot or not? Who says only townies start with the pellet? If you mark were town and you knew it why wouldn't you just hold it instead of risking passing it to a scum because "**** it all"??
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It is not mandatory. My PM said I could pass it during any night.
Passed it because I felt like taking a chance.

Solaris said:
A townie woulds held onto it, yanno. No good townie would risk the town on a **** it all notion! Scum did have time ta talk it through night 0.
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I never said I was a good townie. I am a townie, but perhaps not a good one. Took a chance, I did. But sometimes you have to.

Solaris said:
No way scum would be behaving like Peeper either! Scum tries ta blend in and be calm, don't ya know?
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To a degree. But maybe for Fisher, being crazy is blending in?

Much like for you, peeping is blending in?
 
Fisher said:
Originally Posted by Solaris
Believe what ya want. I got nothing ta hide. Ecofarm is for sure town but you and mark aren't seeming right. pEEPSLOCK is prolly a confused townie but mark is really careful and others don't notice it. And you? Huh, your sneaky nudging is starting ta be more obvious.
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Amazing that you think you know what people notice or don't notice whether or not they bother to discuss it. When I come out and declare something, I go all in, around, about, over, under between, and through. If there is one constant in my game play it is that--you just haven't seen it yet because I have not yet decided 100% on anyone being town or scum. When I go in, I will be all in. Until then, whatever....
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If that her complaining about him openly addressing her? Previous (and later) posts from him to her seem like it could be (search thread: keyword Solaris and poster Fisher, show 'posts').
 
ecofarm said:
If that her complaining about him openly addressing her? Previous (and later) posts from him to her seem like it could be (search thread: keyword Solaris and poster Fisher, show 'posts').
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No idea what the hell you are saying. Using the English language in a more conventional arrangement might help make it seem less like Old Yeller trying to get his last bark out before , well you know, :shoot
 
I am pretty convinced about the mark and eco being town. my current feeling is that there are two scum. one is participating, and the other is being quiet and posting minimally, hoping town offs itself. the questions we need to ask are :

does my theory seem feasible?

which of the vocal players seems most suspicious?

which of the quiet players seems most suspicious?
 
Solaris said:
How about posting sentences then, like the part about the pellet? Or else now some peep is bullcrapping about what the pellet does.
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We are not allowed to copy from game mod PMs.

Pasch please clarify this for Solaris?
 
Helix said:
I am pretty convinced about the mark and eco being town. my current feeling is that there are two scum. one is participating, and the other is being quiet and posting minimally, hoping town offs itself. the questions we need to ask are :

does my theory seem feasible?
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Yes, though I think it could be Solaris and Fisher. Looking at his posts responding to her, there are some questions.

which of the vocal players seems most suspicious?
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Fisher and Solaris

which of the quiet players seems most suspicious?
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X Factor
 
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