Lying Scumbag Cop

[Bodi]

Look at this complete asshole... I hope she went in and showed the Chief that video and he got fired.

 

[Utility Man]

Blond Lives Matter !

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[Bodi]

Blond Lives Matter !

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So you condone a cop lying in order to violate an innocent citizens rights... ? Good to know.

 

[Crosscheck]

I know some people have a cam facing the front of the vehicle to record anything in front of them.

Just find it odd to be recording oneself while driving. This stinks of a set up.

 

[Bodi]

I know some people have a cam facing the front of the vehicle to record anything in front of them.

Just find it odd to be recording oneself while driving. This stinks of a set up.

Lots of people have cameras facing them or have two, one forward one on them.

And set up? She clearly has her seat belt on and he clearly says that she did not. How could that even remotely be a set-up?

 

[jamesbyoung]

Cop was wrong, lied about it, and he needs to be discharged.

 

[Crosscheck]

Lots of people have cameras facing them or have two, one forward one on them.

And set up? She clearly has her seat belt on and he clearly says that she did not. How could that even remotely be a set-up?

Perhaps that is the case. I wasn't aware some people had cams facing them.
Had always assumed they were filming what was in front of them.

If she had two cams then that would explain that.

I may have to change my opinion too. There is still something that doesn't add up.

For one thing the last thing I would do if pulled over is to take my seat belt off. If she had left it on it would be interesting if he accused her of having it off.

 

[Bodi]

Perhaps that is the case. I wasn't aware some people had cams facing them.
Had always assumed they were filming what was in front of them.

If she had two cams then that would explain that.

I may have to change my opinion too. There is still something that doesn't add up.

For one thing the last thing I would do if pulled over is to take my seat belt off. If she had left it on it would be interesting if he accused her of having it off.

I agree that taking off your seat belt is a bit strange when getting pulled over. When I was pulled over you turn off the ignition, keep the belt on and put your hands on top of the steering wheel with the window down.

 

[SILVER SURFER]

I agree that taking off your seat belt is a bit strange when getting pulled over. When I was pulled over you turn off the ignition, keep the belt on and put your hands on top of the steering wheel with the window down.

:yt

...and make no sudden or threatening movements and have your driver's license, vehicle registration and insurance card where you don't have to put your hands out of the cop's sight to retrieve them. A dash cam, preferably one that live streams to the cloud, pointed at yourself (and the cop if within range) also is a good idea.

Related to the OP, I was stopped once shortly after moving to another state. I still had the previous state's driver's license and license plates on my truck. I was at a 4-way stop and saw a state cop coming up on my right. As it was my turn, I proceeded across the intersection at the ridiculously low 20 mph limit. Sure enough, the cop turned and lit me up. I followed the above precautions. He never asked for documents or about the out-of-state plates. He was polite enough and just said he was checking if I was wearing my seat belt (I was). In the open truck bed, I had garbage bags of recycling I was taking to the local center. He never asked about those either. They could have been full of heroin. :lamo I think he was just bored and used a lame excuse to stop me. Oh well, I had a little excitement, didn't get a ticket (or beat or shot), or lose anything but a few minutes. I wasn't in a hurry anyway.

 

[Bodi]

:yt

...and make no sudden or threatening movements and have your driver's license, vehicle registration and insurance card where you don't have to put your hands out of the cop's sight to retrieve them. A dash cam, preferably one that live streams to the cloud, pointed at yourself (and the cop if within range) also is a good idea.

Related to the OP, I was stopped once shortly after moving to another state. I still had the previous state's driver's license and license plates on my truck. I was at a 4-way stop and saw a state cop coming up on my right. As it was my turn, I proceeded across the intersection at the ridiculously low 20 mph limit. Sure enough, the cop turned and lit me up. I followed the above precautions. He never asked for documents or about the out-of-state plates. He was polite enough and just said he was checking if I was wearing my seat belt (I was). In the open truck bed, I had garbage bags of recycling I was taking to the local center. He never asked about those either. They could have been full of heroin. :lamo I think he was just bored and used a lame excuse to stop me. Oh well, I had a little excitement, didn't get a ticket (or beat or shot), or lose anything but a few minutes. I wasn't in a hurry anyway.

I have been pulled over 4 times... each time the cop was a liar and/or an asshole. I only got one ticket. The other three the cops wanted to exert their power by abusing their power.

 

[SILVER SURFER]

I have been pulled over 4 times... each time the cop was a liar and/or an asshole. I only got one ticket. The other three the cops wanted to exert their power by abusing their power.

Other than traffic offenses, I've had no involvement with law enforcement. I'm going on 60 years driving and really can't remember how many times I've been stopped, a few but not that many. Anyway, I've had a ticket or two (which I deserved) and, yeah, one or two of the cops were power-tripping assholes. But most were professional and even went out of their way to NOT give me a ticket. In addition to the aforementioned precautions, I treat them with respect but not fawning submission. That's usually reciprocated and results in a positive outcome. If not, the street is not the place to address a grievance. There are other venues for that.

 

[Bodi]

Other than traffic offenses, I've had no involvement with law enforcement. I'm going on 60 years driving and really can't remember how many times I've been stopped, a few but not that many. Anyway, I've had a ticket or two (which I deserved) and, yeah, one or two of the cops were power-tripping assholes. But most were professional and even went out of their way to NOT give me a ticket. In addition to the aforementioned precautions, I treat them with respect but not fawning submission. That's usually reciprocated and results in a positive outcome. If not, the street is not the place to address a grievance. There are other venues for that.

I am very respectful... which is why a couple of them shocked me with their attitude.

 

[VanceMack]

Not saying cops dont lie...and I do note he didnt cite her, but why does the video start when he is already rolling with his lights? What is the possibility she passed him, realized she didnt have her seatbelt on, put it on, started the recording, and then..."honestly officer...I had my seatbelt on the whole time!"

In other words...lets see the previous 5 minutes.

EDIT:

Disregard...



Skip to 3:10 seconds where the cop literally pass her on the road and turns to follow her.

OP is correct...and scumbag cop should be fired.

 

[mike2810]

Blond Lives Matter !

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Natural or bottle? :mrgreen:

 

[mike2810]

Not saying cops dont lie...and I do note he didnt cite her, but why does the video start when he is already rolling with his lights? What is the possibility she passed him, realized she didnt have her seatbelt on, put it on, started the recording, and then..."honestly officer...I had my seatbelt on the whole time!"

In other words...lets see the previous 5 minutes.

EDIT:

Disregard...



Skip to 3:10 seconds where the cop literally pass her on the road and turns to follow her.

OP is correct...and scumbag cop should be fired.

Not sure its a firing offense unless there is a track record of lying.

 

[SILVER SURFER]

I am very respectful... which is why a couple of them shocked me with their attitude.

I think (hope?) most cops are not that way. But yeah, some will be assholes no matter what you do.

 

[VanceMack]

Not sure its a firing offense unless there is a track record of lying.

What more do you need? The cop clearly demonstrated his willingness to be corrupt and to lie. If he will fabricate this, what else will he fabricate? Frankly, I dont think thats a job you get a second crack at. Lucky for that woman she actually had a dashcam rolling.

 

[mike2810]

What more do you need? The cop clearly demonstrated his willingness to be corrupt and to lie. If he will fabricate this, what else will he fabricate? Frankly, I dont think thats a job you get a second crack at. Lucky for that woman she actually had a dashcam rolling.

So you have never lied at work or know of any of your coworkers have lied on the job? Were you / they fired?

If it went to court the footage would be very telling. If it was you would you pursue it with the police department/district attorney and file a complaint?

Nope, I would give a second chance to the cop. Formal reprimand, file a report in his file.

 

[VanceMack]

So you have never lied at work or know of any of your coworkers have lied on the job? Were you / they fired?

If it went to court the footage would be very telling. If it was you would you pursue it with the police department/district attorney and file a complaint?

Nope, I would give a second chance to the cop. Formal reprimand, file a report in his file.

In a word...no.

And we can disagree. I disagree..thats all.

 

[Bodi]

I think (hope?) most cops are not that way. But yeah, some will be assholes no matter what you do.

I think that most are good people but that they are used to being in control and tricking people into talking by acting like they have the lawful right to make people engage with them. Luckily video technology is starting to change that

 

[SILVER SURFER]

I think that most are good people but that they are used to being in control and tricking people into talking by acting like they have the lawful right to make people engage with them. Luckily video technology is starting to change that

To be fair, that's kinda their job description. Problem is, uncomfortable silences make most people, well...uncomfortable. So they blather when they should just shut up. They also often can't answer without really saying anything, e.g.:

Cop: Do you know how fast you were going?
Me: Yes (answering no, even if true, can be interpreted as not being in control of my vehicle)

And if they pursue it:

Cop: And how fast was that?
Me: Enough to not obstruct traffic

Playing this game and/or just politely declining to answer will get the message across that you're not going to incriminate yourself.

 

[Bodi]

 

[Bodi]

To be fair, that's kinda their job description. Problem is, uncomfortable silences make most people, well...uncomfortable. So they blather when they should just shut up. They also often can't answer without really saying anything, e.g.:

Cop: Do you know how fast you were going?
Me: Yes (answering no, even if true, can be interpreted as not being in control of my vehicle)

And if they pursue it:

Cop: And how fast was that?
Me: Enough to not obstruct traffic

Playing this game and/or just politely declining to answer will get the message across that you're not going to incriminate yourself.

Yes. That. But I was referring more to the cases where the officer asks a question... the driver asks if they are being detained... the cop says "you need to answer my question" or "why do you not want to tell me" kind of stuff when legally the driver could just leave. I see more and more of this, and where cops know the line that they can not cross where the driver is allowed to leave and there is nothing that they can do about it.

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[Mason66]

Not sure its a firing offense unless there is a track record of lying.

Police officers are professional liars. They are taught at the academy to lie to get the information they want.

Nobody is getting fired for lying.

 

[Outlook]

Cop was wrong, lied about it, and he needs to be discharged.

Discharged really?
She can prove her case in court.
Cop appears justified in pulling her over because of the license tags, but made a mistake on the seatbelt ticket.

Do you want a grocery store clerk to be fire if that person mistakenly charged you too much for a product?