I need to explain to you why two species who can successfully breed are compatible? Did your parents not explain the birds and the bees to you?Not even a good sentence that time.
Explain again why you think interbreeding has any significance.
Because it is not anywhere near the top of my list as to what is most pertinent and most important!
I am with you on this one, largely. Cultural incompatibility is a larger factor.
Both I and Vanceen have pointed out repeatedly that you have as many genetic differences between other white people as you do black people and that you may in fact have more genetic similarity with a black man than a white man making categorizing humans as separate races of black and white people arbitrary and ignorantly focused on one genetic difference to the exclusion of all other differences and similarities.
Engels is spelled with one ‘l’.
Marxist-Lenninism sets out to destroy, utterly, the bourgeois order it identifies as the block to an imminent New World. For this reason I think you misread. At least based on your previously offered description.
Shall I post some quotes?
No, sir. I am *genuinely concerned* when someone, anyone, declares that they do not recognize the category of one’s somatic being, one’s somatic self, as even existing objectively!
Of course facts that disprove your racist theories have no interest to you.
Another dishonest argument. It's a scientific observation that races dont exist, it's the ideologically racist argument that still holds onto that theory despite evidence showing just as much variation between ingroups as outgroups.
So now you only took this scientifically inept position to make an ideological point about freedom of thought... sure buddy.
Its not and it doesn't except of course to the fragile feelings of racists.
Yes, you've expressed your racism all over this thread.
I never said there were no genetic differences between people, I pointed out that there as many genetic differences between light skinned people as dark skinned people and that a dark skinned person and light skinned person might even be more genetically similar than a light skinned person and another light skinned person but apparently your brain doesn't know how to address that fact and so you create this strawman.
Racist minds. Yes. We all see that quite clearly.
What I hope that you will notice, and admit, is that the word you use here — racist! — is a pejorative and is infused with ideological and moral value.
I have expressed a desire to wage war against white supremacists, not white people. Of course most white supremacists are white people but not all white people are white supremacists and the white people who aren't white supremacists I mostly have no beef with expect when they excuse or pretend not to see white supremacists.
What do you think America was truly founded on? I'm almost certain most Americans would disagree with you.
Says the girl posting ignorantly racist arguments by the likes of Jared Taylor.
You're not doing a very good job of that.
And those differences would be what exactly?
That's not how understanding works. We've been over this. Belief or support of a thing isn't a requirement for understanding it.
I'm not saying your racism is morally wrong. I'm not a moralist. I'm saying its stupid and more likely to wane in popularity as minorities grow as a percentage of the population. But I do find it useful that most moralists do find racism abhorrent.
I can dismiss them as scientifically unsound.
I do do that. Taunting racists is good fun.
Because you're a big fan of irony?
This is also a weaponized and a misleading term. It is also a term of moral opprobrium.
No, but because it is a moral, ethical and sound position to have.
It can be to moralists. I use it simply as a description of white people who hold to the ignorant view that people with dark skin are incompatible or inferior to people with light skin.
If those cultural and social beliefs are that all land and resources belong to whites and that those Whites have a right to expell and deny the non whites among them access to land and resources then I do disagree with them but not on the basis of morality but in capability. Those that hold to those beliefs can't do any of that because they're conquered little cucks.
That's what weapons are for.
That's for each person to decide for themselves and most people don't find racism to be moral. You can cry that racism is morally all you like it's unlikely to convince anyone.
But here you have done what you always do and may always do — reduced your opponent’s argument by rephrasing to something very different from what is said and what is meant.
And this is generally what I try to demonstrate about you and your argument: it is founded and grounded in lies, distortions and untruths. You will lie and distort and manipulate as you need to, with no compunction, in service to your object. But your argument, in fact, has no solid ground.
It doesn't seem true at all that African people are incompatible with white culture (whatever that is). That remains to be nothing more than your racist assertion.
I have to say your tendency to say something and then immediately claim that what you just said is reasonable and fair is hilarious.
No one claimed there was anything wrong with that, in fact you're the one who seems to be wanting to make judgements about other people's choices of partners. So when we pin you down to an actual argument it becomes evident that you are everything that you decry.
They're an accurate description of your pathetically ignorant arguments.
No one except morons buys anything Jared Taylor is selling. Take that shit to Stormfront if you want a warm reception for his ignorant picture book commentary.
So I manipulated the likes of @vanceen?
I’ve nothing to add to what I’ve already written . . .
Of course not. You can't actually describe how Africans are incompatible with white culture, or even what white culture is, you only have just enough intelligence to claim this is so and that saying so is true but asking you to think beyond the simple picture book arguments Taylor put in your head is little beyond your capabilities.
No, you need to explain why you keep bringing up the subject, given that no one has claimed that different races of homo sapiens cannot interbreed.
My larger argument has to do with the destructive effect of the multi-cultural multi-ethnic project within an evident American decline.
I need a better environment!
A source, a source-- you *should* give your kingdom for a source, for otherwise you're just spouting groupthink.
You've been given a number of definitions of White Culture and you simply ignore them because it serves your ideological purpose to do so. You don't really believe in the non-existence of Black culture or Brown culture in the same way, because you have repeatedly endorsed the fantasy that someday all Whiteness will be obliterated. This is your "picture book" fantasy of Black-Brown triumph, and it pleases you to think that Whiteness will be neutralized. That fantasy in itself, which is being nurtured by activist culture, proves cultural incompatibility.
Have you provided an ounce of evidence of this destruction or decline? It was white one white violence that destroyed the British monarchy that founded European societies in North America and lead to America's creation, it was white on white violence again that threatened America when Confederates seceded and went to war with America and it was angry white violence that recently tried to over turn a democratic election. For the most part black Americans and immigrants have worked within American democracy to affect political and cultural change. This speaks to neither incompatibility or destruction.
Is it? I see you claiming this, wont I don't see is any evidence of it.
Is it a touchy subject for you? Is that because you can barely explain it with any coherence?
What you need is a better argument.Yet it is a significant feature, a larger feature, of Taylor’s argument (which also has a larger dimension).
As said: I am myself reviewing those views and arguments and will fill it out more.
I need a better environment!
Alizia has claimed that "races" are incompatible but I'm not entirely sure what sort of incompatibility she's talking about and so I point out ways in which they are perfectly compatible.
No, that's a way of pointing out how their biologically compatible. Pointing out the spread of cultural influences, from Christianity spreading from the middle East to Europe, Asia and America, or capitalisms spread across the globe should be evidence enough to disprove the that bit of nonsense. If you want to claim a specific aspect of one culture is incompatible with specific aspects of another culture that could be debated and examined but then Alizia would have to actually specify what incompatibility she's talking about.
Race is real but it it's not genetic
You gave one example, abolitionist culture, some of whos most famous members were black. That is evidence of compatibility, not incompatibility.
I don't know what brown culture is and I recognize black american culture as result of white subjugation, segregation and exclusion of black Americans from white society. Black culture has no meaning outside that context of racial exclusion. The cultures of Kenyans and black Americans and Jamaicans are all very different despite their all sharing relatively close skin tones and can't be lumped into a category of a single black culture. Cultural differences exist but they're regional and mutable not racial and permanent except to racists.
I don’t feel that such evidence exists. It is generally understood and it is often written about by more or less conventional sources. Some say this decline is ‘managed decline’ and suits an elite class in America that has means to benefit. I admit to uncertainty as to its causes.