Louisiana Lawmaker Forced to Clarify There Was No ‘Good’ in Slavery

[Jezcoe]

The South seceded because the North was trying to mobilize their power in Congress by making it hard for new slavery states to enter the Union.

Yep... it was about slavery... glad we can agree on that.

If the North was so devoted to anti slavery, why didn’t their states make slavery illegal before the war?

Well that is a complicated question to answer. But the simple answer is that I don't think that they wanted a bunch of free black people walking around just being able to live their life.

 

[Ouroboros]

Most people of any color are never 'terrible; but some are. That's always been true, even in the worst times.

You’re preaching to empty pews, brother.

 

[Tigerace117]

You brought up contemporary uses of Jim Crow, and when I point out the absurdity of your unsourced claim, you flee back to the Civil War.

You made a stupid and desperate attempt to equate “media” and “Democrats” to Jim Crow....and I called you out on it.

 

[Master Debator]

Yes there were many who were bad and many who were good, the Civil War tells us that, and it's just that way today. And that goes for all people everywhere. My experience has been that there are always more good than bad.

So in your opinion good people can fight to preserve a slave state? I think most people's opinion of good would be fighting to destroy a slave state but maybe they teach morality differently where you come from.

 

[Ouroboros]

I already did. Posted a link to the North Carlonia law that was struck down for, and I'm quoting from the ruling judge, "targeting black voters with surgical precision".

One state proves your case for all Republicans, eh? Well, that’s a little more evidence than Sleepy Joe ever provides.

 

[Tigerace117]

The South seceded because the North was trying to mobilize their power in Congress by making it hard for new slavery states to enter the Union.

If the North was so devoted to anti slavery, why didn’t their states make slavery illegal before the war?

Because the South would have seceded and attacked the North......as they literally did.

 

[j brown's body]

The South seceded because the North was trying to mobilize their power in Congress by making it hard for new slavery states to enter the Union.

If the North was so devoted to anti slavery, why didn’t their states make slavery illegal before the war?

I believe that by 1860, among the northern states, only NJ and DE still had slaves.

 

[Jezcoe]

Because the South would have seceded and attacked the North......as they literally did.

Also... the Abolistionists didn't gain any real political power until 1856. Before that they were not a coalesced group but spread out over Whigs, Know Nothings and some Northern Democrats.

 

[Master Debator]

One state proves your case for all Republicans, eh? Well, that’s a little more evidence than Sleepy Joe ever provides.

I think the total opposition of these voter laws by black voters and black voters advocacy groups is also a pretty big indicator but I take it you have no come back for providing you the exact information you asked for except to demand more.

No one takes you guys seriously.

 

[Jezcoe]

I believe that by 1860, among the northern states, only NJ and DE still had slaves.

Yeah... there were cases of slave ownership being grandfathered in. Plus you could travel with your slave from the south up to the north and not have to worry about legal status as per Dred Scott.

 

[j brown's body]

Specify when you allege that Republicans targeted black voters.

You're kidding yourself if you don't think these Republican legislatures have studied voting patterns before making their voter suppression laws.

 

[j brown's body]

Yeah... there were cases of slave ownership being grandfathered in. Plus you could travel with your slave from the south up to the north and not have to worry about legal status as per Dred Scott.

Dred Scott nationalized the protection of slavery. That the south cheered the ruling shows a selective application of "states' rights."

 

[j brown's body]

They didn't go anywhere but they did become better educated and ordinary people became more aware of the evils of segregation. There were several instances of violent racism that shocked Americans and the world. I don't believe that all the people of the South at the time were truly evil but they were certainly being led by evil and ignorant people, and that's not the first time this has happened in this world.. Once they became more aware of the situation the hatreds began to subside, largely due to the exposure of the media of the time and the brutalities taking place,.

Democrats had a noted powerful KKKer in their party for many years, Robert Byrd, and Joe Biden was one of the Democrats praising him at his funeral. They say Byrd apologized for his previous hatreds and actions and they forgave him for them. I suspect that that same transformation took place with many people in the South. Given that most of these people are dead, like Byrd, it may be time to move on.

John Lewis praised him at his funeral as well. I guess he had changed, eh?

 

[j brown's body]

The best known “Jim Crow” imprecation is still the slander from Biden about voting regulations. I frankly think you’re just making up this alleged “Trump cult” stuff, but even if you can cite something, the GOP never conjures with the Crow as much as do Mad Libs.

Fl legislators even tried to carve out their own version of the grandfather clause in their voter suppression bills.

 

[Carl Young]

That's your opinion but it certainly isn't an opinion shared by me and other black voters who see Republicans and their voters fighting to maintain the flags and statues and symbols of long dead racist democratic slavers.

We cucked Robert Byrd and forced him to bow his head and act right and we will do the same to the racist holdouts in the conservative Republican states who still cling to their Confederate flags.

Robert Byrd was probably one of the most powerful men in Washington during his lifetime and eulogized by Clinton and Biden at his funeral, among other Democrats, si the idea that he was 'cucked; is simply false. You are either lying or should spend more time doing some research.

In fact I'll do some research for you re Joe Biden and Robert Byrd, who Joe says was his 'leader'. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.go...dent-a-memorial-service-senator-robert-c-byrd

 

[Master Debator]

Robert Byrd was probably one of the most powerful men in Washington during his lifetime and eulogized by Clinton and Biden at his funeral, among other Democrats, si the idea that he was 'cucked; is simply false. You are either lying or should spend more time doing some research.

I'm talking about the ideology of white supremacy. Yes, society cucked that right out of him and social and political pressure made him change his stance.

In fact I'll do some research for you re Joe Biden and Robert Byrd, who Joe says was his 'leader'. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.go...dent-a-memorial-service-senator-robert-c-byrd

Only because he bowed his head and acted right. You think he would of gotten that eulogy had he maintained his white supremacist ideology?

 

[Carl Young]

John Lewis praised him at his funeral as well. I guess he had changed, eh?

Perhaps he, like many others, did change. However, as we see on these boards and elsewhere, the same Democrats who claim Byrd changed claim others haven't, or that it was Republicans who were the real racists.. Who do you believe?

 

[Master Debator]

Perhaps he, like many others, did change. However, as we see on these boards and elsewhere, the same Democrats who claim Byrd changed claim others haven't, or that it was Republicans who were the real racists.. Who do you believe?

I believe 90% of black voters every election make plain who is and isn't a friend of the black community.

 

[Carl Young]

I'm talking about the ideology of white supremacy. Yes, society cucked that right out of him and social and political pressure made him change his stance.

Only because he bowed his head and acted right. You think he would of gotten that eulogy had he maintained his white supremacist ideology?

Byrd certainly changed his public stance but we'll never know how he genuinely felt. He was certainly never public about his KKK involvement either until it became exposed. It never made any difference to his membership in the Democratic Party or his rise to power.

He should have just been buried. Seems to be a great deal of hypocrisy by honoring a known high ranking KKK member like Robert Byrd while tearing down statues of other people who fought on the losing side in the Civil War.

 

[Carl Young]

I'm talking about the ideology of white supremacy. Yes, society cucked that right out of him and social and political pressure made him change his stance.

Only because he bowed his head and acted right. You think he would of gotten that eulogy had he maintained his white supremacist ideology?

Yep, bow your head, act right, and all is forgiven. Byrd was way ahead of you. He was a racist, certainly, but he was also a loyal and useful Democrat, and that's what really matters.

 

[Carl Young]

I believe 90% of black voters every election make plain who is and isn't a friend of the black community.

You feel that Democrats are friends of the Black community? Why is that?

 

[Logician Man]

You feel that Democrats are friends of the Black community? Why is that?

Ask the members of the Black community. They are clearly the ones who feel "Democrats are the friends of the Black community", as is evidenced by their votes.

 

[Carl Young]

Ask the members of the Black community. They are clearly the ones who feel "Democrats are the friends of the Black community", as is evidenced by their votes.

Given that the board is color blind I can only respond to what the poster says. In this case Master Debator said, "I believe 90% of black voters every election make plain who is and isn't a friend of the black community", and asked him why that might be.

Do you have an opinion as to why that is so?.

 

[Logician Man]

Given that the board is color blind I can only respond to what the poster says. In this case Master Debator said, "I believe 90% of black voters every election make plain who is and isn't a friend of the black community", and asked him why that might be.

Do you have an opinion as to why that is so?.

The answer is, or at least should be, very clear to the smart, educated, and enlightened. They vote for Democrats because they believe the Democrats have their best interests at heart, as opposed to Republicans/Conservatives. What is your opinion as to why Blacks vote for Democrats in such large numbers in every election?

 

[Master Debator]

Byrd certainly changed his public stance but we'll never know how he genuinely felt. He was certainly never public about his KKK involvement either until it became exposed. It never made any difference to his membership in the Democratic Party or his rise to power.

He should have just been buried. Seems to be a great deal of hypocrisy by honoring a known high ranking KKK member like Robert Byrd while tearing down statues of other people who fought on the losing side in the Civil War.

Kind of seems like you're making the case that Democrats are capable of forgiveness. If it were happening today Byrd probably couldn't survive and conservatives would be crying about cancel culture. Which would you prefer? Would you prefer that a former racist who apologized for his racist ways be forgiven or should that ruin you for all time even if you denounce everything you previously stood for?

Yep, bow your head, act right, and all is forgiven. Byrd was way ahead of you. He was a racist, certainly, but he was also a loyal and useful Democrat, and that's what really matters.

Who knows how he really felt? I certainly don't pretend to. But I kind of like the idea of him still being a racist and having to bow his head. That is what a cuck is after all. Having to live your life pretending to be something you hate and hiding on the proverbial closet is exactly the kind of hilarious fate all white racists deserve.

You feel that Democrats are friends of the Black community? Why is that?

Mostly because a lot of the Democratic representatives are members of the black community themselves. This congress is the most diverse its ever been and it comes at a time when Republican representatives are whiter than they've ever been in quite some time.