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Loony-Toon Democrat Senator Wants NY To Secede From US, and Become a Province Of Canada!

New Jersey is that small land mass between New York City and the United States.
Yep.

We are tiny.

But I double dog dare you to mouth off to someone from NJ.

They still haven’t found Hoffa’s body and they dug around in half this state for decades…as recently as 2022 😂

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NY Senator Liz Krueger (D) has proposed that New York, (along with three other Blue states) secede from the U.S. to become a province of Canada.

"Instead of us all illegally cross the border at night without them noticing, which is pretty hard because there's a lot of us, that they should instead agree to let us be the southeast province - a new province of Canada - - New York , Connecticut, Massachusetts, Vermont - - would combine and be a great new Province of Canada . . . basically everybody in these states are progressive Democrats. We would fit in pretty well with the political philosophy of at least most of the Canadian Elected Officials."

Lunatic and idiotic ideas are nothing new to Democrat Lawmakers, but this goofball proposition should make the top five. 😆

THIS lunatic senator is why Americans did NOT want a Democrat to be president/Commander-In-Chief. This lunatic senator is why Americans wonder how she was ever elected to become a Lawmaker.

If we have idiots making our Laws, then we should expect to have idiotic Laws - - and we DO.

Senator Krueger needs to be censured, and removed from office, IMMEDIATELY. She is a disgrace as a Lawmaker, and as a member of Congress, and needs to go, however I predict that Senator Krueger will NOT be censured in any way, shape or form. This will be ignored like all of the other nonsensical ideas from democratic lawmakers.

Sadly, this kind of lunacy is what Americans have come to expect from democrats, and this is why the Democratic Party is on VERY shaky ground lately. As their platform degenerates to utter nonsense, many lifelong democrats are now leaving the Party and becoming Independents. The lunatic democrats are chasing people away with their radical and idiotic ideas. Frankly I couldn't be happier.
PLEASE democrats - - don't stop. Sustain the lunacy and the nonsense. This is what you were meant to be.I
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it'll never happen, 'eh. Americans ain't going to ever learn the Metric system. ;)
 
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*snicker*

Canada is a great place to be.

New Jersey is a great place to be from. Far away from.
Don’t let the door hit you I guess? It’s already overcrowded here…happy to see anyone not happy pack up and go.

Poor @trouble13 can talk a good Jersey game and likely won’t get a Visa and you think we care about people that don’t want to be here or don’t like Jersey?

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I am officially going on record as being opposed to punishing Canada is such a cruel and unusual manner. Give NY to Palestine instead.

Lmaoo... hold up, can we at least get a say? I think we'd definitely take Vermont, it's gorgeous.

The rest you can keep, but Vermont would be a lovely "I'm sorry you have to deal with Trump's bullshit again" present. 🤭
 
Yep.

We are tiny.

But I double dog dare you to mouth off to someone from NJ.

They still haven’t found Hoffa’s body and they dug around in half this state for decades…as recently as 2022 😂

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Murdered and eaten by Pineys. Horrible.
 
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NY Senator Liz Krueger (D) has proposed that New York, (along with three other Blue states) secede from the U.S. to become a province of Canada.

"Instead of us all illegally cross the border at night without them noticing, which is pretty hard because there's a lot of us, that they should instead agree to let us be the southeast province - a new province of Canada - - New York , Connecticut, Massachusetts, Vermont - - would combine and be a great new Province of Canada . . . basically everybody in these states are progressive Democrats. We would fit in pretty well with the political philosophy of at least most of the Canadian Elected Officials."

Lunatic and idiotic ideas are nothing new to Democrat Lawmakers, but this goofball proposition should make the top five. 😆

THIS lunatic senator is why Americans did NOT want a Democrat to be president/Commander-In-Chief. This lunatic senator is why Americans wonder how she was ever elected to become a Lawmaker.

If we have idiots making our Laws, then we should expect to have idiotic Laws - - and we DO.

Senator Krueger needs to be censured, and removed from office, IMMEDIATELY. She is a disgrace as a Lawmaker, and as a member of Congress, and needs to go, however I predict that Senator Krueger will NOT be censured in any way, shape or form. This will be ignored like all of the other nonsensical ideas from democratic lawmakers.

Sadly, this kind of lunacy is what Americans have come to expect from democrats, and this is why the Democratic Party is on VERY shaky ground lately. As their platform degenerates to utter nonsense, many lifelong democrats are now leaving the Party and becoming Independents. The lunatic democrats are chasing people away with their radical and idiotic ideas. Frankly I couldn't be happier.

PLEASE democrats - - don't stop. Sustain the lunacy and the nonsense. This is what you were meant to be.

You and those who think like you were VEWY VEWY QUIET about Texas secession but suddenly you're all poutraged the moment a Dem suggests it.
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How very interesting.
But just to play Devil's advocate...let's do some rudimentary math.
The approximate combined population of all the blue states is around 185 million people and comprises about 70 percent of the nation's wealth, assets and resources.

That might make Canada a very wealthy nation indeed, and to be honest all it will take is another few tries by Trump to cut off funds to these states, at which point they would in turn consider plans to stop sending money marked for red states to the Federal Government.
You see, I don't take Krueger's move seriously but I DO take Trump's intent to punish states that refuse to fall to their knees and adore him Kim Jong Un style, which he said he admires, quite seriously.

So in the end it's not a matter of Senator Krueger suggesting secession, it's a matter of President Trump booting those states out the door.
And in the end it will not take any kind of formal secession attempts at all, just a solid set of agreements whereby these states enact trade and resource allocation on a deeper level with Canada.

No one needs to secede, just form tighter bonds with our neighbor to the North.
 
Everyone loses if states secede from America or if the country otherwise splits apart. The people who earnestly make those maps every election cycle showing the USA divided into two or more countries have it all backwards.

Aside from the extremely high costs of dividing the country, we would not benefit from having a liberal country and a conservative country, as competing ideological projects. Quite the opposite. New York would be a better place if it had more conservatives; Alabama would be a better place if it had more liberals.
It's going to be tough to find real actual conservatives in the Republican Party because most of them were booted out or they left in disgust, or are you attempting to say that MAGA is conservative? 😆
 
Lmaoo... hold up, can we at least get a say? I think we'd definitely take Vermont, it's gorgeous.

The rest you can keep, but Vermont would be a lovely "I'm sorry you have to deal with Trump's bullshit again" present. 🤭
Make us an offer. Vermont is a negotiable. 😉
 
Everyone loses if states secede from America or if the country otherwise splits apart. The people who earnestly make those maps every election cycle showing the USA divided into two or more countries have it all backwards.

Aside from the extremely high costs of dividing the country, we would not benefit from having a liberal country and a conservative country, as competing ideological projects. Quite the opposite. New York would be a better place if it had more conservatives; Alabama would be a better place if it had more liberals.
I don't disagree, but it is so difficult to live around social conservatives that it isn't realistic. If we could have back some of the old Republicans who were fiscally conservative but socially liberal, Democrats, Republicans, and Independents could live together. But that would mean getting rid of all the crazy anti-abortion conservatives and going back to the time that Ross Perot was able to stand being a Republican.
 
I don't disagree, but it is so difficult to live around social conservatives that it isn't realistic. If we could have back some of the old Republicans who were fiscally conservative but socially liberal, Democrats, Republicans, and Independents could live together. But that would mean getting rid of all the crazy anti-abortion conservatives and going back to the time that Ross Perot was able to stand being a Republican.
I’m fine with Conservatives and I honestly miss a culture in which conservatives, liberals, etc…all could at least find a common ground.

We don’t seem to have that reality currently.

We have unleashed bigotry, hatred, sexism, racism…and ripped off the bandaid where we walked around pretending those things no longer existed and instead have put them front and center

Look around at how many threads here are started ablut trans individuals on any given day/in any given week.

And trans people are what? Less than 3% of the population?
 
It's WAY more crazy than Texas' threats to secede. Senator Kreuger is a MEMBER OF CONGRESS. She is an elected Senator and she is a servant of the People of New York, and her behaviour (while speaking as a Senator) should reflect that.

The people suggesting that Texas secede are not members of Congress. Nationalists in Texas have been repeatedly proposing secession since 1861. Yawn.

Again, the Texans wanting secession are not members of Congress - - they are a small fringe group. My points are two things:

1) Senator Kreuger is a lunatic radical, and has no business being a Lawmaker of ANY state, and she is a disgrace to the U.S. Senate and to the Democratic Party.

2) Senator Krueger's lunacy and idiocy will be ignored, because her antics are now the "new normal" for her Party.
Actually, I would have shared your view before Trump became president the first time and maybe even before Jan 6 and before all the delays that have let Trump off the hook on the trials he should be undergoing even now.

But because of all those lunatic radical things, I don't see Senator Kreuger as a disgrace or a lunatic or a radical. All I can see is that Trump is a disgrace, lunatic, and radical, and that those who decided to follow him and the GOP freaks who generated P2025 are threatening to destroy the US, so it seems reasonable to rethink the whole project of the US.

Maybe we should have the NE blue states, the West Coast blue states, and other blue states start thinking about joining with Canada because Canadians aren't as vulgar and crass as the states such as Texas and Alabama, and their English sounds a lot more like ours in Washington, Oregon, California, Minnesota, Illinois, New York, Vermont, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and Maine.

If over time we can get either Nevada or Arizona to move a little to the left, we could add that and then have a link with New Mexico and Colorado. With a little more luck over time, Wisconsin and Michigan and even Pennsylvania could come on board, and possibly even Virginia and North Carolina. Let the Deep South and the idiot Western states such as Texas and Idaho, etc., do their own thing. We can have most of the western and eastern coasts and the Great Lakes region.
 
WTF makes this ditzy broad think that Canada would WANT New York? Canucks have enough problems of their own. Trying to integrate just the city of New York into Canadian life would increase their problems by orders of magnitude.
We have lots of Canadians in NY already. There are quite a few in Ithaca, where I live. Very nice people.
 
I had to use the metric system when I lived in Tokyo. It isn't bad, and besides, now that we have internet, we have a tool that can provide instant equivalents.
 
I’m fine with Conservatives and I honestly miss a culture in which conservatives, liberals, etc…all could at least find a common ground.

We don’t seem to have that reality currently.

We have unleashed bigotry, hatred, sexism, racism…and ripped off the bandaid where we walked around pretending those things no longer existed and instead have put them front and center

Look around at how many threads here are started ablut trans individuals on any given day/in any given week.

And trans people are what? Less than 3% of the population?
I remember when Christine Jorgenson was featured in LIFE magazine, then trans dropped of my personal radar, until sometime after MAGA, Have they been out in the Michigan woods on paramilitary maneuvers?
 
I’m fine with Conservatives and I honestly miss a culture in which conservatives, liberals, etc…all could at least find a common ground.

We don’t seem to have that reality currently.

We have unleashed bigotry, hatred, sexism, racism…and ripped off the bandaid where we walked around pretending those things no longer existed and instead have put them front and center

Look around at how many threads here are started ablut trans individuals on any given day/in any given week.

And trans people are what? Less than 3% of the population?
Yes. I think if the issue were less controversially current, we'd actually find that trans people are less than 1% of the population. All that is necessary for any reasonable rapprochement with genuine Republicans would probably be establishing an other multisex category to encompass the intersexual, transsexual, non-binary, and trans gender and then welcome the transsexual to the m/f conventional categories and acknowledge that trans gender is not a full commitment to either of them (which it's not). And stop making an issue out a tiny per cent, because we have many other things of concern to focus on.
 
Yes. I think if the issue were less controversially current, we'd actually find that trans people are less than 1% of the population. All that is necessary for any reasonable rapprochement with genuine Republicans would probably be establishing an other multisex category to encompass the intersexual, transsexual, non-binary, and trans gender and then welcome the transsexual to the m/f conventional categories and acknowledge that trans gender is not a full commitment to either of them (which it's not). And stop making an issue out a tiny per cent, because we have many other things of concern to focus on.
More annoying to me is folks with large tattoos of celebrities in very visible locations. Also either sex with full sleaves.
 
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