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[ocean515]

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Because it doesn't appear to break any laws.

That we know of. Have a good evening.

 

[RAMOSS]

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So you can't definitively prove it. You can't prove what it is made up of. So, by your rules, I guess that means it doesn't exist.

Funny thing about 'my rule'.. My rule doesn't say that we have to know everything, but merely that there has to be objective and tangible evidence. We have tangible and objective evidence FOR it's existence, as well as the mathematical and theoretical parts based on observation. Dark matter isn't just something that is made up, but it is a deduction based on observation.

So, you are characterizing my 'rule' totally incorrectly. What is missing for your god hypothesis is 1) observation, 2) predictions for interactions, 3) potential mechanisms and 4) a way to test for predictions.

 

[William Rea]

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The cap? More insults? I think you've proven you're way out of your league. But do continue.

I will read the next pages of this forum with interest. I think others are already onto your supercilious game but, it will be interesting to see if you are just another two bit apologist.

 

[William Rea]

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LOL. Oh please. So now come the threats? No need to go there. I've engaged in rational discussion. Perhaps you should direct your advisement elsewhere.

You haven't, and your butt hurt from being called out on it is simply immature.

 

[William Rea]

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You brought god into this. We were and are getting along fine without him.

Absolutely.

 

[William Rea]

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Breaking the laws of physics would not happen? Please explain what Dark Matter is, and what it is made up of. Certainly physics can do that, since all the laws are known.

Exactly and precisely, explain to us how 'Dark Matter' breaks any 'laws of Physics'?

 

[William Rea]

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Explain how dark matter breaks the laws of physics.

Ah, you beat me to it. This should be several topics all on their own but, a simple response would do in this context.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

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Explain how dark matter breaks the laws of physics.

Remember, ocean is the offspring of Tosca and Logicman. Meaning he will simply state he's right over and over again without actually proving it. It's the old "You can't prove the things I made up don't exist so my idiocy is every bit as intelligent and viable as real science."

He's dishonest and he will never answer your question, so just do what I do and stop feeding the trolls.

 

[William Rea]

Re: LOL "Big Bang"

I'll let this article explain. The author is certainly more qualified than I to explain.

http://http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2009/apr/21/dark-matter-could-come-naturally-from-quantum-gravity

EXCERPTS

A physicist in the US has calculated that dark matter — the unknown entity that makes up the vast majority of matter in the universe — could arise in a simple generalized quantum theory of gravity.

One of the most enduring problems of modern physics is that the theories of gravity and quantum mechanics do not readily mix. For over 90 years Einstein’s general theory of relativity has done a good job of describing gravity at large lengths scales, but it runs into trouble for all things very small, where quantum mechanics prevails. The trouble is in part due to the fact that quantum mechanics predicts the existence of fleeting “virtual” particles, which in Einstein’s equations cause awkward values of infinity.

No-one yet knows what dark matter is, although explanations for it are frequently given as hypothetical particles or within modified versions of gravity. ​

So, how exactly does 'Dark Matter' break the 'laws of Physics'. Does it break Hook's Law, Ohm's Law, Newton's Laws or Bragg's Law? If none of these then which one?

 

[William Rea]

Re: LOL "Big Bang"

Remember, ocean is the offspring of Tosca and Logicman. Meaning he will simply state he's right over and over again without actually proving it. It's the old "You can't prove the things I made up don't exist so my idiocy is every bit as intelligent and viable as real science."

He's dishonest and he will never answer your question, so just do what I do and stop feeding the trolls.

I'm waiting for the big writing with colours and highlights and the huge emoticons. They can't be far away as the Dunning-Kruger starts to bite.

 

[joG]

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Due to the severity of ignorance in this post I'm going to keep my answer short as to avoid wasting much time on this. The Big Bang Theory does NOT say anything about something coming from nothing, and it didn't come from nowhere. We know that the universe is at least 13.8 billion years old. The number you're trying to refer to is the age of the earth, but you are too uneducated on the subject to know the difference. The evidence is out there for those who are intelligent enough to comprehend it.

The universe was not created 6,000 years ago by a wizard.

Personally I prefer the Tralfamadorian creed.

 

[zyzygy]

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That we know of. Have a good evening.

Why did you say it broke the laws of physics? You didn't say broke the laws that we don't know about yet.

 

[zyzygy]

Re: LOL "Big Bang"

Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
"Breaking the laws of physics would not happen? Please explain what Dark Matter is, and what it is made up of. Certainly physics can do that, since all the laws are known."

Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
"That we know of. Have a good evening"

All the laws are known yet dark matter could break laws that we don't yet know about. There is a contradiction there.

 

[zyzygy]

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So, how exactly does 'Dark Matter' break the 'laws of Physics'. Does it break Hook's Law, Ohm's Law, Newton's Laws or Bragg's Law? If none of these then which one?

Does it travel faster than light? Does it have negative mass? Probably not, but it might break laws that we don't know about yet. That is a mighty big might. First of all it was dark matter breaking the laws of physics ans now it's might break laws of physics that we don't yet know about. The goalposts are mobile.

 

[DDD]

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LOL. I love these admissions of intellectual deficit. "I can't refute the logic and truth, so go jump through hoops, and if you don't, I win".

Look, it's quite simple. It doesn't matter how you want to box in your thinking on infinity, if it exists, everything is possible, since there is no constraint on anything. If you don't believe infinity exists, then you're safe from having to admit God may exist.

Well, define "infinity" and do so with references please?

 

[ocean515]

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I will read the next pages of this forum with interest. I think others are already onto your supercilious game but, it will be interesting to see if you are just another two bit apologist.

Game. Not sure which one you're playing, but it's interesting to read.

 

[ocean515]

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You haven't, and your butt hurt from being called out on it is simply immature.

Immature? Who is incapable of reasonable discussion and has to resort to insults and attacks? LOL.

 

[ocean515]

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Funny thing about 'my rule'.. My rule doesn't say that we have to know everything, but merely that there has to be objective and tangible evidence. We have tangible and objective evidence FOR it's existence, as well as the mathematical and theoretical parts based on observation. Dark matter isn't just something that is made up, but it is a deduction based on observation.

So, you are characterizing my 'rule' totally incorrectly. What is missing for your god hypothesis is 1) observation, 2) predictions for interactions, 3) potential mechanisms and 4) a way to test for predictions.

LOL. What is missing from your response is that if infinity exists, why such things as God are impossible. Get back to me when you can prove that.

 

[ocean515]

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Exactly and precisely, explain to us how 'Dark Matter' breaks any 'laws of Physics'?

I have provided links. Find them and read them. I'm not interested in expending any additional effort for you.

 

[ocean515]

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So, how exactly does 'Dark Matter' break the 'laws of Physics'. Does it break Hook's Law, Ohm's Law, Newton's Laws or Bragg's Law? If none of these then which one?

Hooke's, Braggs? Care to add any additional irrelevant unrelated laws of physics that you googled? I posted the links. Run along and find them, or keep embarrassing yourself.

 

[ocean515]

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Why did you say it broke the laws of physics? You didn't say broke the laws that we don't know about yet.

Really? I think if you're going to engage in such complicated and deep discussions on a blog, you need to be a bit more accommodating. I'm not writing a contract that could be argued before a court of law where precise, exact wording is critical. If the current laws of physics have been unable to explain and define Dark Matter, and it's suggested new laws may be required to explain it, doesn't that imply the current laws have been broken?

 

[ocean515]

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Well, define "infinity" and do so with references please?

https://www.google.com/#q=Infinity+definition

in·fin·i·ty

/inˈfinədē/

noun

noun: infinity

1.

the state or quality of being infinite.
"the infinity of space"

synonyms: endlessness, infinitude, infiniteness, boundlessness, limitlessness; ​

Infinity - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Full Definition of INFINITY


1

a : the quality of being infinite

b : unlimited extent of time, space, or quantity : boundlessness​

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Student Dictionary

One entry found for infinity.


Main Entry: in·fin·i·ty
Pronunciation: in-primarystressfin-schwat-emacron
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Etymology: Middle English infinite "the quality of having no limit," from early French infinité (same meaning), derived from Latin infinitus (adjective) "having no limit," from in- "not" and finitus, past participle of finire "to limit, bring to an end," from finis "end, limit" --related to DEFINE, FINAL, FINISH
1 a : the quality of being infinite b : a space, quantity, or period of time that is without limit2 : an indefinitely great number or amount
3 : a point infinitely far away
​

So post the evidence of limits to infinity. Do so with references please.

 

[RAMOSS]

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LOL. What is missing from your response is that if infinity exists, why such things as God are impossible. Get back to me when you can prove that.

Tell you what.

How about in all that whining, mischaracterisization of my argument, and that stuff.. .. why don't you tell me what God is. WHat you do mean when you said "GOD". I am not talking about various traits of God, but what 'God is'. When you nail that down, then we can talk further.

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: LOL "Big Bang"

LOL. What is missing from your response is that if infinity exists, why such things as God are impossible. Get back to me when you can prove that.

Tell you what.

How about in all that whining, mischaracterisization of my argument, and that stuff.. .. why don't you tell me what God is. WHat you do mean when you said "GOD". I am not talking about various traits of God, but what 'God is'. When you nail that down, then we can talk further.

 

[RAMOSS]

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I have provided links. Find them and read them. I'm not interested in expending any additional effort for you.

It seems you are over looking one huge part about the 'Laws of PHysics'.

The 'so called ' Laws of Physics ' are descriptive, not prohibitive. I noticed that people who don't know what they are talking about always say 'Find the links' and 'I already answered that'... and can't discuss what they mean except by 'providing a link' (yet never can point to where it makes the claim), and it's always 'I did that already'. .. but you never can find where they did that.

You have shown that you have no comprehension of physics,what is meant by the term 'laws of physics'... or the math. You provide the logical fallacy of 'shifting the burden of proof', and also often use the logical fallacy of equivocation.