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Logical argument against Gay Marriage

That's how I said it in the first place, so I simply restated it. I happen enjoy that little turn of phrase for it's silliness, but also because it actually implies that there is no "number one" ingredient to a healthy marriage, but instead there are many equally important ingredients necessary to a healthy marriage. The fact that you didn't get that word play doesn't particularly surprise me.

But we all realize that this non-response and deflection on your part is simply put forth to distract form the totally asinine comment to which I was responding, which was the response of "no" to a comment that claimed (and I obviously have to paraphrase myself since the literary wordplay is lost on some) "Honesty is one of the most important ingredients to a healthy marriage".

You responded "no" to this. Please explain why you think honesty is not one of the most important ingredients to a healthy marriage.

Your opinion is just that: your opinion.
 
No, you are lying. You said it was tangental. I did not. And you have still refused to prove your position with evidence, as requested, as you always refuse to do... demonstrating that you have no credibility on this issue... or on this forum.

Again. you do not define my position, I do. Stop trolling.
 
Again. you do not define my position, I do. Stop trolling.

You have no position to define. All you have is baseless opinion. All you are doing is trolling, and continuing that would be a mistake. Either post an evidence for your position, admit that it is nothing but opinion, or stand down.
 
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Your opinion is just that: your opinion.

So you admit that you do not consider honesty to be one of the most important ingredients to a healthy marriage.

Could you ellaborate on this stance? i.e. Why don't you feel that honesty is one of the most important ingredients to a healthy marriage?

Is dishonesty a detrminent to a healthy marriage in your worldview or is it beneficial to a healthy marriage?

Please explain instead of dodging, because I find your position utterly facinating.
 
You have no position to define. All you have is baseless opinion. All you are doing is trolling, and continuing that would be a mistake. Either post an evidence for your position, admit that it is nothing but opinion, or stand down.

Again, my position was stated very early on in this thread. Which of the points do you have issue with? Pick one.

Gay relationships are less stable, cannot possibly result in natural childbirth, and are an abnormal and potentially unhealthy way to raise children.
 
Again, my position was stated very early on in this thread. Which of the points do you have issue with? Pick one.

Gay relationships are less stable, cannot possibly result in natural childbirth, and are an abnormal and potentially unhealthy way to raise children.

gay relationships cant be less stable traditional is at 50% divorce rate. real healthy enviroment for children huh!
 
No. I believe that faithfulness includes honesty. Who would be faithful and lie about it?

See post 152 and take your own advice instead of merely taking a position of disagreement to be disagreeable. ;)

But in this case, your opinion is also 100% wrong.

Honesty is the foundation of faithfulness, not the other way around. If someone is dishonest about every other aspect of their life and marriage, but they are faithful, the marriage will still be unhealthy.

But if the marriage is predicated on faithfulness, honesty requires a person to remain faithful. To do otherwise would be dishonest. If it is an "open" marriage, one must still be honest about their sexual liaisons for the marriage to be healthy. If they are having secret liaisons, it is unhealthy.

All dishonest marriages are unsuccesful. All of them. Regardless of whether they are purely monogamous or not.

Also, your response of "No. Faithfullness is." proves that you could not have included overall honesty in your definition of faithfulness at that time. If you were using a more braod version of faithfulness (instead of the sexual fidelity definition) you'd have realized that a broad definition of "faithfulness" includes open relationships that are honest.
 
Too bad that you don't like it, but your opinion is just that - your opinion. There is nothing verifiable nor objective about it from a factual standpoint.

However, i'll humor your. Let's see some of your verifiable, objective facts, all of which are capable of independent verification.




Again, that's your opinion. There is plenty of folks nowadays who do not view marriage simply as a function of raising children, like I said. You can make all the fuss you want to about it, but folks are getting married for the exact reasons I outlined; furthermore, it's accepted practice, and supported by the gub'mint.

I personally don't care about your personal views. My point is that marriage is no longer simply about that. If it's your belief that raising kids constitutes 75, 85, or 95% of the union, fantastic! I don't, and guess what? That's a valid view backed up by the laws of this country and the opinions of millions and millions of folks who don't subscribe to your view.

However, feel free to continue whipping out more partisan hackery and getting all bent out of shape because I correctly pointed out the obvious.

You don't care about my opinion, and I don't care about yours...sooo...what are we talking about here, how much we don't care about opinions? Great. We agree.

You don't mind if I get back to facts now, do you? Of course not.
 
you ever heard this phrase: their are lies damn lies and then there are statistics both of our statistics are useless

Then why did you cite yours?

Funny how all stats are bad when mine are based on facts and yours are pulled out of thin air.
 
You don't care about my opinion, and I don't care about yours...sooo...what are we talking about here, how much we don't care about opinions? Great. We agree.

You don't mind if I get back to facts now, do you? Of course not.

Not at all. In fact, it would be a welcome relief to finally see you list some, as your posts in response to me have been devoid of them.
 
Then why did you cite yours?

Funny how all stats are bad when mine are based on facts and yours are pulled out of thin air.

actually i got mine from Dave Ramsey who was talking about divorce but seriously though you can just guess and your statistic will about as accurate as theirs
 
Again, my position was stated very early on in this thread. Which of the points do you have issue with? Pick one.

Gay relationships are less stable, cannot possibly result in natural childbirth, and are an abnormal and potentially unhealthy way to raise children.

You STILL refuse to listen. You have posted zero evidence for any of your opinions, but you asked, so let's see if you actually will. Present any evidence that shows that gay relationships are an unhealthy way to raise a child. Links and research are required.
 
According to all available data that I have seen, the US divorce rate is approximately 38%. The 50% was a projected rate from the early 2000's that has been downgraded to about 40%.
 
You STILL refuse to listen. You have posted zero evidence for any of your opinions, but you asked, so let's see if you actually will. Present any evidence that shows that gay relationships are an unhealthy way to raise a child. Links and research are required.

Let me guess, here's his evidence
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You STILL refuse to listen. You have posted zero evidence for any of your opinions, but you asked, so let's see if you actually will. Present any evidence that shows that gay relationships are an unhealthy way to raise a child. Links and research are required.
Have at it.

The research is clear: mothers and fathers are essential for optimal child-rearing. Gender complementarity affords children the opportunity to thrive in the best possible environment. Other family forms are not equally as helpful or healthful for children. Substantial research demonstrates the negative effects of father hunger. One can only surmise the consequences of mother hunger.

Children Need Both A Mother And A Father

Prediction: attack the messenger. :2razz:
 
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