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Authoritarians don't understand such freedoms.

So, you want total freedom to buy any gun?
Please justify why anyone would need a 50 cal sniper rifle with armour piercing bullets for example.
 
So, you want total freedom to buy any gun?
Please justify why anyone would need a 50 cal sniper rifle with armour piercing bullets for example.
You guys are so funny.

"NEED?"

How many things do you own that you don't "need."

Arguments like that show you have no real argument.

Please go away.
 
So, you want total freedom to buy any gun?
Please justify why anyone would need a 50 cal sniper rifle with armour piercing bullets for example.
Why does someone need a car with 1,000 horse power?

Why does someone need a 7,000 square foot house, for just themselves?

Why does someone need a 20 ft yacht?
 
If that were the case there would be zero gun laws in the US right now which is not the case.
Gun rights are not total and rules about their use are already on the books.
The only gun laws we need are laws about how guns are used...specifically, about shooting people. Other than that, the Constitution is quite clear: The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

All of the laws we have now that infringe that right are unconstitutional.
 
Why does someone need a car with 1,000 horse power?

Why does someone need a 7,000 square foot house, for just themselves?

Why does someone need a 20 ft yacht?
No kidding. It's like when Al Gore living in his home that uses more energy than me and my 50 neighbors, tells us we need to cut down on energy consumption.

These lefties are so funny at time, but is sad how ignorant they are to how hypocritical they are.

Do I need my SLP modified Camaro Convertible? No. But I like it.
 
The only gun laws we need are laws about how guns are used...specifically, about shooting people. Other than that, the Constitution is quite clear: The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

All of the laws we have now that infringe that right are unconstitutional.
The way I see it, anyone who understands the constitution must want criminals to take over, by tryuing to ban guns in the hand of good citizens.
 
So, you want total freedom to buy any gun?
Please justify why anyone would need a 50 cal sniper rifle with armour piercing bullets for example.
"need" is irrelevant. The Constitution doesn't say a word about "need".
 
Why does someone need a car with 1,000 horse power?

Why does someone need a 7,000 square foot house, for just themselves?

Why does someone need a 20 ft yacht?

That's a terrible analogy as none of those things are considered deadly weapons.
Give me a reason why someone needs that sort of firepower.
It's certainly not self-defence as they can do that with much less powerful weapons.
 
when gun banners use the nuclear argument, it is a concession they have no valid response. The second amendment is about self defensive arms that a citizen would normally keep and BEAR. Nukes don't qualify on any ground
That’s a circular argument. The only reason they don’t keep and bear them is because they are illegal. Remove restrictions and put them on the free market and of course citizens will keep and beat them.
 
Now I could actually go along with a licensing step. I wouldn't want to see it mandatory, but rather voluntary. It would do nothing more than list what weapons you have been certified to use, and possible at what skill level. This could have a practical purpose, but the left is constantly trying to track down who has what weapons. I find this very disturbing.
When I have to evaluate a proposal that purports to help alleviate gun crime, I examine who is pushing for it. When the people pushing for it include large numbers of gun banners or those who want to make it as hard as possible for honest people to be armed, that alone is grounds to oppose the proposal. Add to that is the fact that these schemes will never be followed by people who cannot legally own firearms in the first place. So again, it is nothing more than a scheme to harass lawful gun owners. And like it or not, nothing in the constitution actually empowers the federal government do demand such a license, especially using the fiction of the commerce clause
 
That's a terrible analogy as none of those things are considered deadly weapons.
Give me a reason why someone needs that sort of firepower.
It's certainly not self-defence as they can do that with much less powerful weapons.
need is irrelevant. you don't need to post on this board. You don't need to have the tools to do so. more importantly OUR government doesn't have the proper power to deny us the ability to own these arms
 
That’s a circular argument. The only reason they don’t keep and beat them is because they are illegal. Remove restrictions and put them on the free market and of course citizens will keep and beat them.
how do you bear an ICBM, have you any clue what the cost is? The word is BEAR not BEAT BTW
 
The way I see it, anyone who understands the constitution must want criminals to take over, by tryuing to ban guns in the hand of good citizens.


If gun laws don't work why is Europe with strict gun laws not overrun with criminal gangs that can just take over entire cities with massive illegal firepower?
The police in my area have stab vests and a few have tasers at most.
 
So, you want total freedom to buy any gun?
Please justify why anyone would need a 50 cal sniper rifle with armour piercing bullets for example.
what is an Armour piercing bullet? do you know that almost EVERY centerfire rifle bullet will go through the standard issue police ballistic vest?
 
that was the Democrats who did that. and it was unconstitutional and it proved that democrats were attempting to harass lawful gun owners since there was no crime being committed with legally owned autos
No that’s historically inaccurate. If you’re going to make stuff up, do it on Fox News, not here.

“I do not believe in taking away the right of the citizen for sporting, for hunting and so forth, or for home defense. But I do believe that an AK-47, a machine gun, is not a sporting weapon or needed for defense of a home.”
-Ronald Reagan
 
If gun laws don't work why is Europe with strict gun laws not overrun with criminal gangs that can just take over entire cities with massive illegal firepower?
The police in my area have stab vests and a few have tasers at most.
England never had much of a gun crime problem BEFORE your silly government started having bed wetting episodes over rare cases of mass shootings
 
No that’s historically inaccurate. If you’re going to make stuff up, do it on Fox News, not here.

“I do not believe in taking away the right of the citizen for sporting, for hunting and so forth, or for home defense. But I do believe that an AK-47, a machine gun, is not a sporting weapon or needed for defense of a home.”
-Ronald Reagan
uh that is after he was out of office. Try again. His white house counsel included one of my suite mates from College. I know exactly why he signed the Firearms Owners Protection Act in 1986 and it was DESPITE the gun ban, not because of it. You can look for my earlier posts which explain why-including the fact that the GOP KNEW it was going to lose the senate in the fall elections and with that, the chance of passing the mainly pro gun provisions
 
No that’s historically inaccurate. If you’re going to make stuff up, do it on Fox News, not here.

“I do not believe in taking away the right of the citizen for sporting, for hunting and so forth, or for home defense. But I do believe that an AK-47, a machine gun, is not a sporting weapon or needed for defense of a home.”
-Ronald Reagan
Reagan would be a liberal today
 
how do you bear an ICBM, have you any clue what the cost is? The word is BEAR not BEAT BTW
R and T are nest to each other in the keyboard. Sorry.

As far as your question, like all weapons technology over the last 3 centuries, the technology is already there, and getting better all the time. Put them on the free market and let it do its magic, I say.

 
Now, the rabid right will offering something like "owning a gun is a right, and you can't license a right"

The answer to that is why not ?

This looks a good idea, are there any practical arguments against it ?


The "rabid right" One more troll thread?
 
uh that is after he was out of office. Try again. His white house counsel included one of my suite mates from College. I know exactly why he signed the Firearms Owners Protection Act in 1986 and it was DESPITE the gun ban, not because of it. You can look for my earlier posts which explain why-including the fact that the GOP KNEW it was going to lose the senate in the fall elections and with that, the chance of passing the mainly pro gun provisions
Reagan’s pro-gun control positions date back to the 1960s and as governor of Texas, your suite mate’s proclamations notwithstanding.

 
My take away from the video was “hey the current system doesn’t work like we want it to, so we are proposing a more intrusive one that will be plagued by the same problems and will not solve the issue in any meaningful way, but we’re going to pretend it will.”.
 
Reagan’s pro-gun control positions date back to the 1960s and as governor of Texas, your suite mate’s proclamations notwithstanding.

I am going by what he said and did during his administration. that you call him the governor of Texas pretty much suggests you really haven't a clue about what you are talking about and are merely cutting and pasting stuff that you really don't understand
 
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