70% of the nation's GDP was generated in counties that voted for Joe Biden. That means that the overwhelming amount of taxes in this country are paid by Liberals. Polls of millionaires and billionairesDemocrats are better at talking about how much they care about the unfortunate. But are they any more likely than Republicans to make major sacrifices to help people they don't even know?
actually there were studies done (I posted them here years ago) that conservatives were more likely to contribute to secular charities more than similarly situated (economically) liberals, and of course far more to religious charities. Liberals-when they donated-usually did so to organizations that advocated more government redistribution of income (rather than organizations that actually helped people)Democrats are better at talking about how much they care about the unfortunate. But are they any more likely than Republicans to make major sacrifices to help people they don't even know?
Wow! Good comeback. Notice how you can't actually explain why it's stupid? Yeah, that because it actually makes perfect sense.that's really stupid.
Wow! Good comeback. Notice how you can't actually explain why it's stupid? Yeah, that because it actually makes perfect sense.
Taxes are the dues you pay for living in our country. They are the fees you pay for access to play in the arena that is the United States. If you don't think it's a fair deal, you're welcome to head for Mexico, Canada, Europe, Russia, China... Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
you are lying yet again. I posted evidence that the vast majority of people making more than 100K voted for Trump and the majority of those making less than 50K voted for Biden70% of the nation's GDP was generated in counties that voted for Joe Biden. That means that the overwhelming amount of taxes in this country are paid by Liberals. Polls of millionaires and billionaires
have shown that they actually believe they should pay more in taxes.
So yeah, we're good.
Assuming of course that the secular and religious charities actually help people.actually there were studies done (I posted them here years ago) that conservatives were more likely to contribute to secular charities more than similarly situated (economically) liberals, and of course far more to religious charities. Liberals-when they donated-usually did so to organizations that advocated more government redistribution of income (rather than organizations that actually helped people)
Yer calling people liars all over the board tonight, TurtleDude. That’s quite the Trump behavior you’ve got going.you are lying yet again. I posted evidence that the vast majority of people making more than 100K voted for Trump and the majority of those making less than 50K voted for Biden
OIC, you don't think you're getting what you paid for? Okay, well then let's eliminate the government entirely and see how much of your wealth and property you are able to hang on to with no government at all.the problem with this nonsense is that when you pay dues in clubs you get what you pay for.
I have seen no such evidence.you are lying yet again. I posted evidence that the vast majority of people making more than 100K voted for Trump and the majority of those making less than 50K voted for Biden
Wow! Good comeback. Notice how you can't actually explain why it's stupid? Yeah, that because it actually makes perfect sense.
Taxes are the dues you pay for living in our country. They are the fees you pay for access to play in the arena that is the United States. If you don't think it's a fair deal, you're welcome to head for Mexico, Canada, Europe, Russia, China... Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
Yes I do. Enough to know they are nothing more than a bad joke.You really don’t know much about libertarians, do you?
Make in New Zealand they are.Yes I do. Enough to know they are nothing more than a bad joke.
Why should I solve your problems for you?
If I spend my own time and money building a homeless shelter and making sure every homeless person in town can get a basic meal and the health care they need then you don't have to worry about
being bothered by homeless people begging you for money or stealing when they can't get what they need by begging.
You've benefitted from my solution every bit as much as I have. Why shouldn't you be required to chip in?
70% of the nation's GDP was generated in counties that voted for Joe Biden. That means that the overwhelming amount of taxes in this country are paid by Liberals. Polls of millionaires and billionaires
have shown that they actually believe they should pay more in taxes.
So yeah, we're good.
Your right wing libertarianism is a bad joke. You want people to be both greedy and selfish but not to the point where they might hurt others. You actually need to pretend that we are all on a equal footing that everyone is playing on a level field. That for some strange magical reason people will naturally treat others with consideration . Yet even more laughable is you think your not asking for a utopia where all this can happen.Make in New Zealand they are.
This idea of "compulsory compassion" you argue is a moral construct used by those who think they have both a right and a duty to compel other's to submit themselves to the group and "share" in the fruits of their labor. Based on the weird idea that simply by existing one may demand to be taken care of by everyone else. That is the foundation of Socialism and it's extreme of Communism, i.e. that the group has the right to compel individuals to work as hard as possible and then "share" the bulk of their production with those less capable or less willing to put in the same effort.
those programs will be going bye bye one way or the other. Without enough children to pay future retirees are our cratering birth rate it is a mathematical certainty it can’t be maintained.it's based on the mistaken conclusion that if government is pared down to its bare bones, then you'll get the freedom and wealth just like your employer, the rich, and everyone else with more power than you. in reality, you'll more likely end up as an independent contractor if you're lucky enough to be employed at all, and you still won't be able to smoke pot in your spare time due to limited worker rights and drug screens that you pay for yourself. also, bye bye, SS and Medicare.
Liberalism and enlightenment political systems are generally built on greed, libertarianism is based on the same ideology as liberalism, which is that the foundation of society is the autonomous individual who has rights of bodily autonomy. Libertarianism is basically liberalism at its logical conclusion. The only difference is that the libertarian doesn’t believe everyone should bail you out of your bad decisions where most liberals think that’s a human right. Both are selfish philosophies (like for example liberals have a creepy obsession with birth control access, birth control is pure 100% selfish greed made into a pill) based on the individual and not the society based on family.To be fair I agree with libertarians on freedom. Ron Paul telling those fake moral crusaders in the GOP debates that he supported legalization of drugs was priceless and I am grateful he did that because now weed is now legal in several states.
My issue with libertarians was clearly spoken when I saw Ayn Rand speak at the UW in 1976. She clearly stated that poor people, the elderly and the sick where leeches and she did not care if they lived or died if they needed public assistance. Sorry libertarians. I respect your right to brlieve as you please but the political equivalent of Satanism or Manifest Destiny is just not this liberals style. Where is the compassion? Thank God they are of minority opinion.
To be fair I agree with libertarians on freedom. Ron Paul telling those fake moral crusaders in the GOP debates that he supported legalization of drugs was priceless and I am grateful he did that because now weed is now legal in several states.
My issue with libertarians was clearly spoken when I saw Ayn Rand speak at the UW in 1976. She clearly stated that poor people, the elderly and the sick where leeches and she did not care if they lived or died if they needed public assistance. Sorry libertarians. I respect your right to brlieve as you please but the political equivalent of Satanism or Manifest Destiny is just not this liberals style. Where is the compassion? Thank God they are of minority opinion.
The Germans are generally more intelligent than most other groups of people. Plus the influence of extreme Protestant Christianity a few hundred years ago created a society of industrious people with a sense of honesty and low corruption. A group of intelligent people will always create a functioning society. The people build the institution, not the other way around. You can copy Germany’s health care plan in America and it will fail on day one because resources will have to be used to bribe certain ethnic groups in exchange for political cover from charges of “racism”why not? Waiting for selfish tight wads and it would never happen. What is your beef with the government doing it. The Germans have te best healthcare in the world and it is government ran so why not? That crap is mythology about the government can't do anything well in fact it is downright stupid.
No, socialism has never worked anywhere in the world except to produce death, mass murder and misery.No just more of the fact that you have a corrupt government that has failed the people. It is understandable why you do not want socialism in your country because that would only line the pockets of corrupt politicians. The failure is not socialism which works quite well when it works for the people. The failure is that america is a failed experiment in republicism.
So you want to hold me accountable for something that was said years before I was born?My issue with libertarians was clearly spoken when I saw Ayn Rand speak at the UW in 1976.
Uncontrolled and unregulated markets in housing would certainly eliminate affordability issues overnight.One of the measures of any society is how they care for their indigent population. Does uncontrolled and unregulated capitalism result in a bigger middle class? Ayn Rand does not comment on the vicissitudes of capitalism, and the resultant problems in our society.
Whats the problem? If you see something needs doing, do something about it. You don't need government for that.
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