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Liberals: The True Minority


“Vote Republican, it’s easier than thinking”.:roll:

This is your f**king answer for everything, I'm done trying to have an intelligent discussion with you sir, you are an arrogant prick. You obviously have no idea how the world works, or how welfare has destroyed the very fabric of our nation. Goldwater had it right, and it was the liberals that started to call him a racist, among other things, for his efforts. This country has become what he feared most, people don't want a hand up, they want a hand out, and he could see this reality, while liberals trashed him for speaking the truth. Now you arrogant pricks have the nerve to try and talk like he is in your camp today, or would be, oh brother, the nerve, more crust then a f**king pie factory.:roll:

You were the last person on the left I thought worth debating here, I guess I don't need to come here anymore.
 

Deegan, that was a joke. The fact is, you have not offered up anything really for debate. You claim that welfare has destroyed this nation.

How?

Did the poverty rate all of a sudden jump when the welfare program start? No, in fact, it is about 11% right now. Prior to welfare and social programs, it was as high as 30%.

Does welfare make people want to have sex outside of marriage? Of course not, the fact that sex is fun makes people want to have sex outside of marriage.

Does welfare make people want to have sex without using contraceptives? No, I think we can logically chock that up to ignorance.

Were minorities doing better prior to welfare? No, back then they pretty much all lived in sharecropper shacks lacking even so much as a floor on the other side of the tracks.

It seems to me like I made a case for why we cant just take kids away from lazy parents, and you got mad about the case I made.

By the way, I grew up poor, my mother worked two jobs to support us and we never took a dime of welfare. I know how the world works, it just not as simple and as black and white as you seem to want it to be.
 


Show me where I said anyone was invited to any gay pride parade. :liar2

It's pretty bad when you have to start making stuff up like this. And either way, I DID prove that NAMBLA was distinctly welcomed by gay pride marchers.
 

1) I believe conservatives HAVE enacted numerous core parts of their agenda.

2) Several of these examples are negatives, several of them are not products of liberals, and several of them you are just plain wrong about.

Example:

Eisenhower (R) integrated the schools. George Wallace (D) said, "segregation now, segregation forever," and refused to cooperate until the National Guard forced him to.

There are tons of holes like this in your exhaustive (if not panicked) spin job here.
 
I still have yet to see any liberal here even attempt to confront the ugly indications of McCain-Feingold or of liberal book, radio sales always going down the toilet (mentioned in the intro).
 

History lesson. George Wallace was a very conservative Democrat. Eisenhower was a liberal Republican. You seem to think that party affiliation alone determines ideology. If Eisenhower, Nixon, or for that matter even Goldwater were around today, they would be some of the most liberal members of the Republican party, more liberal than even some Democrats.

The fact is, every time a conservative today even attempts to touch Social Security, Medicare, Farm Subsidies, or really any social program at all, they pay dearly at the polls. If this is such a conservative nation, then why is that the case?
 
aquapub said:
I still have yet to see any liberal here even attempt to confront the ugly indications of McCain-Feingold or of liberal book, radio sales always going down the toilet (mentioned in the intro).

Uh, your liberal book argument as absurd as it is has already been throughly debunked by everyone in your thread devoted to it. I don't even think you had a conservative on here agree with it.

As to radio, what about NPR and its 30 million listeners?

Aquapub, you seem like an intelligent individual but your intelligence is quite under utilized do to your irrational and pathological hatred of liberals. Basically, you are a like a Klansman, where liberals are your Black or Jew. Its unfortunate, it really is.
 

1) "Debunked" is not the right word for how liberals respond to the fact that liberal books nearly always bomb while conservative books always sell like hot cakes...I believe the correct wording is "denial." :notlook:

2) 650 million Americans, 30 million is well within the liberal fringe.

3) I love how "presenting evidence liberals can't refute," when translated into liberal means, "irrational and pathological hatred of liberals." Yawn. :roll:

4) Bigot: a conservative winning an argument with a liberal. :lol:
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
History lesson. George Wallace was a very conservative Democrat.

1) Yes, and you might remember this the next time you're trying to debunk the reality that America is right of center by claiming Congress has had so many Democrats over the last 60 years or by claiming that Democrats have more registered voters....

The South is filled with Zell Miller conservative Democrats who never vote for Democrats. THAT'S what enables you to perpetuate the false notion that liberals are anything but a fringe minority who have nothing in common with Middle America.

2) And spin it how you want, but it was Republicans who freed the slaves, Republicans who integrated the schools, and it is Democrats who have the only Klansman in a public office-Robert Byrd.

SouthernDemocrat said:
The fact is, every time a conservative today even attempts to touch Social Security, Medicare, Farm Subsidies, or really any social program at all, they pay dearly at the polls. If this is such a conservative nation, then why is that the case?

Tell me again how well the public responded to the left's health care initiative in the 1990s.

And like I said, when the public gets a fair and honest version of the facts, they almost always side with conservatives. Ask the average American if they think liberals are right to help illegal aliens drain Social Security. :roll:
 
With all that has gone wrong for conservatives lately...

...are liberals poised to make historic gains? Nope.
...are liberals poised to make moderate gains? No way.

With all that has gone wrong for conservatives lately, liberals are struggling to gain a razor thin majority. This is why we call it a dying party.

History tells us Democrats should have been in a position of overwhelming dominance in Congress for 6 years now. It is unprecedented for a party to sustain such thorough, consistent rejection from the people as Democrats have.
 
Iriemon said:
Democratic candidates are typically financially supported by populist, grass-roots movements of a broad section of society giving small amounts of money.

I'd like to see you attempt to prove this.
 
aquapub said:
2) 650 million Americans, 30 million is well within the liberal fringe.

The CIA World Factbook puts U.S. population at 298 million as of July 2006.

No big deal, just getting the numbers right
 
This is a funny thread.

Look at the political scene over the last 80 years. Are government actions becoming more liberal, or less liberal?

The answer is clear. both the democratic party and the republican party keeps moving further and further left.

Real Conservatives are the true minority.
 
Voidwar said:
I'd like to see you attempt to prove this.

See post #21.
 
Iriemon said:
See post #21.


I know liberals have an aversion to facts and evidence, but post #21 (on page 2) doesn't contain any facts or evidence, just your re-assurances that you're right and you moronically portraying evidence I presented from a non-partisan campaign finance tracking group as me using myself as a source.

:ws

You don't seem very good at this debating thing, so I will show you how to present evidence and facts again:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/gover...rats-rich.html?highlight=democrats+favor+rich

This time you might want to actually try reading.
 

Since when did quoting referencing yourself become an acceptable source? You don't seem very good at this debating thing...
 
jallman said:
Since when did quoting referencing yourself become an acceptable source? You don't seem very good at this debating thing...

LMFAO! I couldn't make this stuff up! "I'll show you how to present evidence and facts again" hehehheheh
 
Iriemon said:
LMFAO! I couldn't make this stuff up! "I'll show you how to present evidence and facts again" hehehheheh
I wonder what aqua is doing tonight?
 
jfuh said:
I wonder what aqua is doing tonight?

Yea, he was so sure of himself, I was positive he would show up tonight and gloat...... Hmmmm, Navy Pride seems to be MIA as well.:rofl
 
danarhea said:
Yea, he was so sure of himself, I was positive he would show up tonight and gloat...... Hmmmm, Navy Pride seems to be MIA as well.:rofl
Speaking of NP, He's going to need to change his avatar to one of my choice now hehehehe, I'll wait till it's "official".

I'm very glad, the parasitic neocons and bushnevicks have been :beatand voted out. This is a terrrific victory for Americans and, ppl all over. Christmas came early this yeararty:2party:
 
Hey aquapub! Liberals in the minority you say?????????? Think again.

The people have spoken, looks like you are wrong.:lol:
 
Indy said:
Aquapub, I totally agree. Liberals are in the minority. Unfortunately for you though conservatives are ALSO in the minority. The truth of the matter is that the MAJORITY consists of moderates.

Nope...conservatives are the MAJORITY. What happened Tuesday was not a rejection of conservativism, it was a rejection of republican party faux conservatism. The appeal of real conservatism was demonstrated in 1994 when real conservatives took over congress. Since then, republicans have relied on folks thinking, wrongly, that they (republicans) were still the folks that swept in 1994. If and when republicans get back to real conservatism, they will return to power, and not until then.

If you think conservatism is dead, look at the backstory in the Tues elections. Dems won seats, but look at issues that were voted on:

Gay marriage...it was on the ballot in 8 states...7 of them rejected gay marriage...a decidedly conservative issue.

Eminant domain...it was on the ballot in 9 states, and all 9 voted overwhelmingly to put strict restrictions on it by WIDE margins.

These, and other, examples show that conservatism was embraced, not rejected...it was the phony conservatism of the current republican party that was rejected.

BubbaBob
 
BubbaBob said:
Gay marriage...it was on the ballot in 8 states...7 of them rejected gay marriage...a decidedly conservative issue.

In the depraved thought processes of a Liberal, Gay marriage or "civil unions" becomes necessary to guarantee sexual freedom and eliminate any moral consequence. With the dicission in these states on gay arriage I would say Consevitism is not dead, it is alive and well. Liberals are nothing more and nothing less than Communists, Socialists and Dictators.
 
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