Liberals: The True Minority

[jfuh]

In the depraved thought processes of a Liberal, Gay marriage or "civil unions" becomes necessary to guarantee sexual freedom and eliminate any moral consequence. With the dicission in these states on gay arriage I would say Consevitism is not dead, it is alive and well. Liberals are nothing more and nothing less than Communists, Socialists and Dictators.

Conservatism is for now, very weak. Barry Goldwater, a true conservative, in keeping government out of personal lives. The state should have no say so in personal decisions such as marriage.

 

[1069]

If you check out liberal web sites much these days, the one common thread they all have (other than hysteria and conspiracy theories) is that what gets them by from one election to the next is this fantasy that there is this unsung silent majority of liberals just waiting (...and waiting) to jump out of the woodwork and deliver unbathed hippy justice to the man.

Surprise.
I think your "unsung silent majority" just jumped out of the woodwork.
Turns out they weren't mythical after all.

:mrgreen:

 

[aquapub]

Surprise.
I think your "unsung silent majority" just jumped out of the woodwork.
Turns out they weren't mythical after all.

:mrgreen:

Democrats have to fight tooth and nail to get a razor thin majority even when Republicans are embroiled in numerous scandals, even when the media has relentlessly told us the sky is falling in Iraq for years, even when it's a mid-term election...and you think this is an "unsung silent majority jumping out of the woodwork"?

:rofl

Congratulations. You are officially a liberal. :ws

What you're actually seeing here is the last twitchings of a dying party.

 

[Iriemon]

Democrats have to fight tooth and nail to get a razor thin majority even when Republicans are embroiled in numerous scandals, even when the media has relentlessly told us the sky is falling in Iraq for years, even when it's a mid-term election...and you think this is an "unsung silent majority jumping out of the woodwork"?

:rofl

Congratulations. You are officially a liberal. :ws

What you're actually seeing here is the last twitchings of a dying party.

Unlike the vast popular majorities won by Bush which was sure proof of the overwhlemingly conservative bent to the country.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Democrats have to fight tooth and nail to get a razor thin majority even when Republicans are embroiled in numerous scandals, even when the media has relentlessly told us the sky is falling in Iraq for years, even when it's a mid-term election...and you think this is an "unsung silent majority jumping out of the woodwork"?

:rofl

Congratulations. You are officially a liberal. :ws

What you're actually seeing here is the last twitchings of a dying party.

What ever makes you feel good aquapub. The Democrats won despite 12 years of gerrymandering by Republicans designed to keep them from ever winning again. Moreover, they won all levels of government, not just congress, by the majority of the statehouses, and govenorships. You guys got your *** kicked. Maybe if you are lucky, in another 40 years, you might can have majority party status again for another 12 years.

 

[Indy]

Nope...conservatives are the MAJORITY. What happened Tuesday was not a rejection of conservativism, it was a rejection of republican party faux conservatism. The appeal of real conservatism was demonstrated in 1994 when real conservatives took over congress. Since then, republicans have relied on folks thinking, wrongly, that they (republicans) were still the folks that swept in 1994. If and when republicans get back to real conservatism, they will return to power, and not until then.

I'm sorry to correct you, but what happened tuesday was not the rejection of conservatism nor was it the rejection of liberalism, it was the power of the moderate voters. Thus proving once again that MODERATES are the majority, not conservatives, nor liberals. By now this shouldn't be this hard to grasp for you, but your statements show this assumption to be incorrect.

 

[aquapub]

Unlike the vast popular majorities won by Bush which was sure proof of the overwhlemingly conservative bent to the country.

If Bush's party couldn't get people to listen to their radio, watch their TV shows, read their books or vote for them, even in what should be effortless mid-term elections without having to pretend to be the other side, and without having to be handed the election by scandals and war, this might be a meaningful counterpoint.

 

[aquapub]

The Democrats won despite 12 years of gerrymandering by Republicans designed to keep them from ever winning again.

Gerrymandering happens by both sides and rarely makes enough of a difference to matter.

 

[hipsterdufus]

Gerrymandering happens by both sides and rarely makes enough of a difference to matter.

Dems would have picked up an estimeated 40 seats Nov 7th if gerrymandering hadn't happened.

Dems will be tempted to redraw now that they are in power again.

I would like to see legistlation that limited the number of redistricting maneuvers that can be done to coincide with the census.

 

[aquapub]

You guys got your *** kicked. Maybe if you are lucky, in another 40 years, you might can have majority party status again for another 12 years.

Sure, if you call having to pretend to be conservatives in order to scrape out a razor thin majority from a scandal-weary, Iraq-conscious electorate who won't read your books, listen to your talk radio, watch your TV shows or vote for you, even in what should be effortless mid-terms, unless they absolutely have to, "kicking ***." :lol:

 

[BubbaBob]

You really think Americans want less socialism?

Try cutting farm subsidies, see what happens.

Try cutting Medicare benefits, see what happens.

Try cutting Social Security benefits, see what happens.

Try cutting unemployment benefits, see what happens.

Try cutting Chips programs or Medicaid for children, see what happens.

Try gutting Head Start, see what happens.

Try gutting Federally Backed Student Loans and Grants, see what happens.

Try cutting funding to Public Schools and see what happens.

Those are all forms of Socialism, and if any attempts to touch them, they are promptly ran out of office even in the most conservative states. That is why I say the whole notion that America is "Conservative" is absurd. Socialism permeates all aspects of our society, and aside from reforming welfare, which even LBJ supported, touching any of those socialist programs is a quick ticket out of office. People elect conservatives as a curb on liberalism, not as an endorsement of conservatism.

Well, not exactly...

Farm subsidies...yep, let's cut them out...and I'm a farmer...who operates without subsidies.

Medicare...nope...each individual pays for medicare throughout his/her working life. That's not socialism.

Social Security and unemployment insurance is the same as medicare, paid ahead by payroll deductions from the paycheck of the person receiving the benefits.

Medicaid and federal loans and grants should be cut as well.

Head start and public education should be locally funded at a level decided by local voters.

BTW SouthernDemocrat...anyone ever tell you that you resemble Neal Boortz?

BubbaBob

 

[BubbaBob]

What ever makes you feel good aquapub. The Democrats won despite 12 years of gerrymandering by Republicans designed to keep them from ever winning again. Moreover, they won all levels of government, not just congress, by the majority of the statehouses, and govenorships. You guys got your *** kicked. Maybe if you are lucky, in another 40 years, you might can have majority party status again for another 12 years.

Well, it depends...

Dems won on people/candidates thanks the the demonization of Bush...but when you get past people and look at issues, conservative issues won hands down...REAL conservative issues, not the neo-con crap that many candidates spout.

In 7 out of 8 states where it was on the ballot, gay marriage lost.

In 9 out of 9 states with severe restrictions on emminant domain on the ballot, the restrictions won.

State and local laws against illegal immigration are passing on an almost daily basis all over the country...some well thought out and some not (and will be found unconstitutional), but all indicitive of what folks want.

Republicans threw the election away by failing to be republicans...dems won nothing...and repubs will either get back to being true conservative republicans or they will continue to lose. It's just that simple.

The 94 sweep was not a fluke...those ideals were legit and took congress and can again IF the rep party will return to them/

BubbaBob