Liberalism Is Yesterday's News

[Grand Mal]

I think a lot of liberals are recognizing they've lost touch with the average American voter. I don't know why it has taken so long but Trump's win may have finally shaken them up. The Democrat narrative was soundly rejected.

Liberalism's Exhaustion​

Liberalism's Exhaustion

with Daniel Bessner

glennloury.substack.com

For years, I and many others have been warning liberals and progressives who defined themselves by embracing identity politics over material economic concerns, by touting America and Americans as the root of all evil, by portraying themselves as the occupiers of “the right side of history,” and who smeared those who didn’t buy into their program as ignorant, racist wretches.

We’ve been warning them: Keep at it, and your political base is going to shift out from under your feet. The “wretches”—some of whom used to be Democrats—are going to take their votes and their campaign contributions elsewhere. The “people of color” who you run to with your hand out every two years are going to realize you have nothing to offer in return except the hollow claim that “the other guys are worse.” We said, if you don’t rethink your political program, it will be the end of you.

This election may not mark the end for the Democratic Party, but I don’t think anyone can look at the results and say I was wrong. To be sure, there are many factors contributing to Trump’s win. Alienation from the Democratic Party can’t account for all of his success. But it may account for the narrow difference between a win and a loss.

And yet, what do we see in the aftermath? We see Nancy Pelosi, in an interview with the New York Times Magazine, refusing to admit that her party had any hand in its own defeat. We see angry progressives blaming the wretches for rejecting the party that has done nothing but mock them. We see very little of the soul-searching that one would expect among party leaders after losing two branches of the government in one election. In this clip, Daniel Bessner argues that the Democrats’ failure is a sign of liberalism’s exhaustion. It has, he says, nothing left to offer. I don’t know if he’s right about that. But if Kamala Harris is the best the Democrats can do, he’s not wrong.

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Liberalism is the dominant political force in the past couple hundred years of history in the west. Liberalism is why you don't have to tip your hat to the man who owns the land you live on. Liberalism is why you have a representation in court.
You don't have any idea about political ideology, or what you're talking about.

 

[trixare4kids]

Liberalism is the dominant political force in the past couple hundred years of history in the west. Liberalism is why you don't have to tip your hat to the man who owns the land you live on. Liberalism is why you have a representation in court.
You don't have any idea about political ideology, or what you're talking about.

Neither do you. The United States is not a liberal country.

 

[post]

Neither do you. The United States is not a liberal country.

Liberalism - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

“And equality before the law”.

Not any more!

 

[Isidore]

Trump won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes.

The current difference is 2,634,515 according to Decision Desk HQ.

Liberalism Is Yesterday's News

Who/what was yesterday's news based on the fact that Trump lost the popular vote margin by a greater number in 2016?

76,507,714 (Trump) - 73,873,199 (Harris) = 2,634,515​

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65,853,514 (Clinton) - 62,984,828 (Trump) = 2,868,686​

 

[btthegreat]

I think a lot of liberals are recognizing they've lost touch with the average American voter. I don't know why it has taken so long but Trump's win may have finally shaken them up. The Democrat narrative was soundly rejected.

Liberalism's Exhaustion​

Liberalism's Exhaustion

with Daniel Bessner

glennloury.substack.com

For years, I and many others have been warning liberals and progressives who defined themselves by embracing identity politics over material economic concerns, by touting America and Americans as the root of all evil, by portraying themselves as the occupiers of “the right side of history,” and who smeared those who didn’t buy into their program as ignorant, racist wretches.

We’ve been warning them: Keep at it, and your political base is going to shift out from under your feet. The “wretches”—some of whom used to be Democrats—are going to take their votes and their campaign contributions elsewhere. The “people of color” who you run to with your hand out every two years are going to realize you have nothing to offer in return except the hollow claim that “the other guys are worse.” We said, if you don’t rethink your political program, it will be the end of you.

This election may not mark the end for the Democratic Party, but I don’t think anyone can look at the results and say I was wrong. To be sure, there are many factors contributing to Trump’s win. Alienation from the Democratic Party can’t account for all of his success. But it may account for the narrow difference between a win and a loss.

And yet, what do we see in the aftermath? We see Nancy Pelosi, in an interview with the New York Times Magazine, refusing to admit that her party had any hand in its own defeat. We see angry progressives blaming the wretches for rejecting the party that has done nothing but mock them. We see very little of the soul-searching that one would expect among party leaders after losing two branches of the government in one election. In this clip, Daniel Bessner argues that the Democrats’ failure is a sign of liberalism’s exhaustion. It has, he says, nothing left to offer. I don’t know if he’s right about that. But if Kamala Harris is the best the Democrats can do, he’s not wrong.

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It has nothing to do with 'liberalism' or pendulum swings. This country is 'yesterday's news' The country is going dark, and a democracy simply cannot afford to go dark because the lights just never turn back on. A vibrant democracy needs an educated, enlightened voter population and if the voting public simply does not care if it gets lied to or not by media or politicians , as long as it feels validated in it bias... then we have lost hope of maintaining that educated enlightened voter population on which the experiment depends.

We are not making America great again, we have dug its grave.

 

[Schweddy]

Liberalism is the dominant political force in the past couple hundred years of history in the west. Liberalism is why you don't have to tip your hat to the man who owns the land you live on. Liberalism is why you have a representation in court.
You don't have any idea about political ideology, or what you're talking about.

Sure. The difference this time around? Identity politics. People don't like forced gender religion, male participation in woman's sports, and redefining the definition of science.

You are right, this round of liberalism too shall pass as the torch will be passed to more logical and rational thinkers holding the liberal title.

 

[Paradoxical]

Sure. The difference this time around? Identity politics. People don't like forced gender religion, male participation in woman's sports, and redefining the definition of science.

You are right, this round of liberalism too shall pass as the torch will be passed to more logical and rational thinkers holding the liberal title.

I think the radicals have had their day in the sun and when the bright light shone on them, America repudiated them. In addition to what you said, we knew we were in store for more taxation to pay for her schemes to essentially give people a house and a business, her drive for equity which is socialism in disguise (to each according to his need), and this "holistic" approach to government that amounts to a nanny state. Most of us prefer capitalism. Her daddy didn't. She wouldn't come out and say it but she doesn't like capitalism either. Blaming grocers for high prices and gouging is what Marxists/Communist do to take the bright lights off their policies.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I think a lot of liberals are recognizing they've lost touch with the average American voter. I don't know why it has taken so long but Trump's win may have finally shaken them up. The Democrat narrative was soundly rejected.

Liberalism's Exhaustion​

Liberalism's Exhaustion

with Daniel Bessner

glennloury.substack.com

For years, I and many others have been warning liberals and progressives who defined themselves by embracing identity politics over material economic concerns, by touting America and Americans as the root of all evil, by portraying themselves as the occupiers of “the right side of history,” and who smeared those who didn’t buy into their program as ignorant, racist wretches.

We’ve been warning them: Keep at it, and your political base is going to shift out from under your feet. The “wretches”—some of whom used to be Democrats—are going to take their votes and their campaign contributions elsewhere. The “people of color” who you run to with your hand out every two years are going to realize you have nothing to offer in return except the hollow claim that “the other guys are worse.” We said, if you don’t rethink your political program, it will be the end of you.

This election may not mark the end for the Democratic Party, but I don’t think anyone can look at the results and say I was wrong. To be sure, there are many factors contributing to Trump’s win. Alienation from the Democratic Party can’t account for all of his success. But it may account for the narrow difference between a win and a loss.

And yet, what do we see in the aftermath? We see Nancy Pelosi, in an interview with the New York Times Magazine, refusing to admit that her party had any hand in its own defeat. We see angry progressives blaming the wretches for rejecting the party that has done nothing but mock them. We see very little of the soul-searching that one would expect among party leaders after losing two branches of the government in one election. In this clip, Daniel Bessner argues that the Democrats’ failure is a sign of liberalism’s exhaustion. It has, he says, nothing left to offer. I don’t know if he’s right about that. But if Kamala Harris is the best the Democrats can do, he’s not wrong.

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I think the issue is that we are not dealing with "liberalism."

Liberalism is the support of liberty - particularly economic liberty through property rights and free markets. This is coupled with individual rights, a Laissez Faire approach when the individual is free to do as they please within the bounds of basic laws against the initiation of violence, theft, and fraud.

That is not what the democrats are. We don't deal with "liberals," we are dealing with Marxists. The collectivest authoritarians behind Obama, Biden, Harris, et al have no relation to "liberalism." These are far left big government totalitarians.

George Orwell wrote of the control of society by the control of language. Changing the meaning of words. "Liberal" has been bastardized and coopted by the most illiberal people on the planet.

 

[Kblaster49]

I think the radicals have had their day in the sun and when the bright light shone on them, America repudiated them..

Nah, 70% of US adults voted for Harris or stayed home.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Elections go back and forth, as long as your side isn't rigging them. If we struggle to get back in power in 2026, it's going to be at least partly due to right-wing vote-rigging and gerrymandering.

And by "rigging them" you mean stopping democrats from their sacred right of election fraud? Did the Americans "rig" the election by stopping the 18 million fraudulent votes that were used in 2020? That kept democrats from power this election cycle.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The margin was 3%. The Democrat was narrowly rejected. Liberalism is something else, and that can't be determined by the election.

Because 312 to 226 is only a 3% difference.....

What democrats offer is Marxism, the opposite of "liberalism."

 

[Uncensored2008]

Congratulations. I hope you enjoy the second tRump recession.

Are democrats planning a second biological attack on the country?

 

[daeler]

Lack of economic understanding is actually what won Trump the election. He said he would fix inflation, while also saying he was going to institute across the board 10% tariffs and 20%-60% tariffs on China which will increase inflation.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Except where it wasn't, like the Senate races across most of the swing states, or on abortion referendums across the country.

So the Marxists kept the Senate?

I missed that.

I wonder what's going to happen to all of these narratives if the Dems sweep the midterms.

Traditionally the house changes party during the mid-terms. It did under Quid Pro (Obama's third term.)

 

[The AntiDonald]

That's what we said after 2008. Get ready for a massive pushback after the second tRump recession begins.

And if history means anything, it will begin. The economy has nowhere to go but down. Discontinuing Bidens policies will surely slow the economy. Add to that some of Trump's insane ideas, and America will see a major downturn.

It happens every time a republican takes office after a democrat leaves them a good/great economy.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I glanced over the Wikipedia page on 'Liberalism' (which must be 15 pages long) and I don't recognize the modern-day Democrat as such.

If you glance at the page on "Marxism," suddenly you'll recognize the democrats.

 

[Michael Cole]

Because 312 to 226 is only a 3% difference.....

Dumb attempt.

What democrats offer is Marxism, the opposite of "liberalism."

Idiotic post as usual.

Harris offered a tax break for startups. That's capitalism. You are confused.

 

[Uncensored2008]

MAGAs are really desperate to sell the narrative that this election was a gigantic referendum. Notice that?

Marxists are really desperate to deny that they were rejected by the nation. Notice that?

 

[OrphanSlug]

Liberalism is not yesterday's news, that is a hollow victory lap at best.

If anything, what is up for discussion is what issues liberalism today decides are important enough run on as well as retain some degree of relevance up on the hill. Are they going to go back to representing the working class, those that are most economically vulnerable, consider minorities a bit more, and perhaps the liberalism of just 8-10 years ago? Or, are they going to continue to use identity politics, safe spaces, soup throwing, and a wokeness attitudes to litmus test out the majority of the nation?

The nation overall is fairly moderate to slightly left leaning all things considered. This past election was not about embracing far right governance, it was about the voter giving a middle finger to the very party that used to be all about them.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Dumb attempt.

Dumb is thinking 312 is a 3% difference from 226.

But then people don't become democrats because they are particularly bright..

Idiotic post as usual.

Harris offered a tax break for startups. That's capitalism. You are confused.

Harris desperately repeated anything Trump said. democrats are the party of Marx.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Liberalism is not yesterday's news, that is a hollow victory lap at best.

If anything, what is up for discussion is what issues liberalism today decides are important enough run on as well as retain some degree of relevance up on the hill. Are they going to go back to representing the working class, those that are most economically vulnerable, consider minorities a bit more, and perhaps the liberalism of just 8-10 years ago? Or, are they going to continue to use identity politics, safe spaces, soup throwing, and a wokeness attitudes to litmus test out the majority of the nation?

The nation overall is fairly moderate to slightly left leaning all things considered. This past election was not about embracing far right governance, it was about the voter giving a middle finger to the very party that used to be all about them.

Claiming that the Marxists are "liberal" is an absurdity.

Collectivist Totalitarians such as the American democrat party are the opposite of "liberal." Liberalism found a home among Libertarians for a time, but that too has been subverted and perverted by the Socialists. Trump is a liberal, in the real meaning of the word, and promotes the liberal view of the nation. Individual freedom, economic liberty, free markets.

 

[Jredbaron96]

So the Marxists kept the Senate?

I missed that.

There are no Marxists in the senate.

Traditionally the house changes party during the mid-terms. It did under Quid Pro (Obama's third term.)

You think that's an automatic thing?

 

[BabaVoss]

A pendulum swings in both directions.

 

[Paradoxical]

Nah, 70% of US adults voted for Harris or stayed home.

It appears you are in the denial stage. Give it some time. I understand your grief. If I can help, let me know.

 

[post]

Sure. The difference this time around? Identity politics. People don't like forced gender religion, male participation in woman's sports, and redefining the definition of science.

You are right, this round of liberalism too shall pass as the torch will be passed to more logical and rational thinkers holding the liberal title.

Manufactured triggers, red states legislators busily solving problems that don’t or barely exist.

Chris Rufo’s dangerous fictions

The right’s leading culture warrior has invented a leftist takeover of America to justify his very real power grabs.

www.vox.com