LGBT community fracturing (1 Viewer)

[Phys251]

Well, while they're being read to, they're not being raped by their pastor, so there's that.

Interesting how silent the righties are on this.

 

[Lisa]

Free speech is for a public forum. Not in administrated settings. you do not put PG and higher rated materiel in elementary schools.

Only perverts want that.

What about those who cannot afford it? the left is against giving such vouchers for private schools.

Yes, I do not disagree. I know and respect many.

Why do you think they have the right to groom other people's children in elementary school?

Why do they have a need to influence other people's children?

LGBTQ grooming conspiracy theory - Wikipedia

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Grooming is not medically possible because a persons sexual orientation or gender idneity is determined before birth. If grooming were possible then conversion therapy would also be possible, but its not possible and conversion theory has never changed a person's gender or sexual orientation. You have been sucked into a conservation conspiracy theory that has been repeated for 40+ years. Conversion therapy has been banned because of the damage it does.

If grooming was possible then who was grooming LGBT people 50-80 years ago?

 

[Mika-El]

Did such a community ever really exist? I have heard that gay men and lesbians, for example, have never really been on friendly terms.

Please tell me that was sarcasm.

Or...could uou have misunderstood what the person meant by "friendly terms"?

Come on your country's gay community is hard to deny. Allow me to pay homage:





Certain men in Sweden:



Another word for Swedish lesbians:

 

[dairyair]

Free speech is for a public forum. Not in administrated settings. you do not put PG and higher rated materiel in elementary schools.

Only perverts want that.

What about those who cannot afford it? the left is against giving such vouchers for private schools.

Yes, I do not disagree. I know and respect many.

Why do you think they have the right to groom other people's children in elementary school?

Why do they have a need to influence other people's children?

You think there was PG or higher rated materials in schools?
Are you confusing schools with the catholic church??

Perverts apparently are religions and the religious.

I am not against vouchers for private schools, but those private schools wanting public money need to have the same rules to follow as public schools.
IE, no discrimination based on sex, gender, race, etc.

There's no grooming. That's a lie people use to rile up lowly informed people.
Now, religions. They are all about grooming.

There's no influencing children. Where do you get that nonsense from? More importantly, why do you fall for such nonsense?

If you know some then why don't you ask them why they want to groom kids?
They should know better. But I bet you either don't know any or you don't believe them when they tell you they don't groom children.

Have you asked your LGBT friends how many kids they are required to change from hetero to LGBT?
And how they achieve this conversion? Even though that's impossible.

 

[Lord of Planar]

You think there was PG or higher rated materials in schools?

Are you intentionally sidestepping that point, or are you incapable of understanding?

Are you confusing schools with the catholic church??

Perverts apparently are religions and the religious.

Why do you think too wrongs make a right?> Have i ever claimed that was good?

Damn. That a stupid argument.

I am not against vouchers for private schools, but those private schools wanting public money need to have the same rules to follow as public schools.
IE, no discrimination based on sex, gender, race, etc.

That is the point of a private school. They have tailored setting for parents who want such things. It is for like minded people, weather religeous, technical, etc. They get to set their admission standards.

Don't like it. Too damn bad.

There's no grooming. That's a lie people use to rile up lowly informed people.
Now, religions. They are all about grooming.

Why one and not another? My whole point is that you have agendas filtrating the schools, against the parents wishes, that teach the children things the parents are against in the formative years.

But then you seem to demand such grooming.

There's no influencing children. Where do you get that nonsense from? More importantly, why do you fall for such nonsense?

How can you net see it? Are you really blind to it, or are you pretending to be?

If you know some then why don't you ask them why they want to groom kids?

The ones I know are not like that. It is only a few who are perverted to wanting to groom children.

They should know better. But I bet you either don't know any or you don't believe them when they tell you they don't groom children.

Then what is all the heated debates about? haven't you seen all this in the past?

Have you asked your LGBT friends how many kids they are required to change from hetero to LGBT?
And how they achieve this conversion? Even though that's impossible.

What in hell are you talking about. My God. You are acting like it is all of them I speak of. It is only a few radicalized ones, but you accept the radicals. The radical ones need to be shunned. Not supported.

 

[dairyair]

Are you intentionally sidestepping that point, or are you incapable of understanding?

Why do you think too wrongs make a right?> Have i ever claimed that was good?

Damn. That a stupid argument.

That is the point of a private school. They have tailored setting for parents who want such things. It is for like minded people, weather religeous, technical, etc. They get to set their admission standards.

Don't like it. Too damn bad.

Why one and not another? My whole point is that you have agendas filtrating the schools, against the parents wishes, that teach the children things the parents are against in the formative years.

But then you seem to demand such grooming.

How can you net see it? Are you really blind to it, or are you pretending to be?

The ones I know are not like that. It is only a few who are perverted to wanting to groom children.

Then what is all the heated debates about? haven't you seen all this in the past?

What in hell are you talking about. My God. You are acting like it is all of them I speak of. It is only a few radicalized ones, but you accept the radicals. The radical ones need to be shunned. Not supported.

I am incapable of understanding your logic or use of words. Remember, I don't fall for conspiracy theories.

I don't know what wrongs you'd be talking about? Only 1 I mentioned was referring to priests grooming boys.
That seems to be the only grooming in religions or schools.
You claim to hate schools grooming, but then want public money used for private schools that actually has a history of perverts and sex assault.

If they have tailored settings, then they can keep them, but they don't get public money. We don't need to have public money promoting discrimination.

Stupid points call for stupid arguments. Don't claim schools are grooming children. That is pure stupidity and a stupid reply is the result.

Here's another stupid point you keep wanting to bring up. Even though I told you there's no grooming, I don't want grooming. Your claims about grooming are likely lies or misinformation you read and push.
Why would you think I want grooming when I told you no public money to private schools who's only purpose is to groom. Either to hate other people or groom them into believing they have to hate other people so they don't burn in some firey lake for eternity.

You tell me I am for grooming, but it is you that actually want to promote grooming by using public money in private grooming schools.

You pay for your own grooming. I want no part of that sick world of manipulation and lying to children

Now, do you wish to tell lies about me wanting grooming or will you respond with valid points and issues. And not dive into BS nonsense about grooming.

The LGBT people you know are not like what? You are calling that group something but you don't know any who actually act like this thing you claimed? Maybe the issue isn't real? Or your like those parents and blowing it all out of proportion?

You know LGBT people don't groom, yet you worry about LGBT people grooming. It seems your reality of the people you know, don't fit the reality of what you want to claim. Seems likes it's made up.

You're the one acting like it's a national problem and all LGBT people want to do is groom children. Don't make a mountain out of a mole hill then.

I've been trying to tell you it's not a national issue. Now you're telling me you know it's maybe a handful or less of people in the entire county?

Every group has people that are extreme or radical. That doesn't mean we need to make laws or denigrate the entire group for a radical few.

You were blowing this grooming thing all out of proportion. And now you admit it's just a few people?
See, it's not a big issue.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I am incapable of understanding your logic or use of words. Remember, I don't fall for conspiracy theories.

You think I am speaking of the entire group, and I am not. You refuse to acknowledge the few who destroy it for the many. You refuse to recognize and speak out against the few who are ruining for the rest.

It only becomes the whole group when the group does not make their bad players accountable.

 

[Lisa]

You think I am speaking of the entire group, and I am not. You refuse to acknowledge the few who destroy it for the many. You refuse to recognize and speak out against the few who are ruining for the rest.

It only becomes the whole group when the group does not make their bad players accountable.

Grooming is not possible to change a persons sexuality. You have bought into a debunked conspiracy theory and reject the facts of the matter. It doesn't happen and it cannot happen but still you continue to believe this lie. Reading as book or watching a video isn't going to make some kid trans or gay because they don't reprogram a persons brain.

 

[dairyair]

You think I am speaking of the entire group, and I am not. You refuse to acknowledge the few who destroy it for the many. You refuse to recognize and speak out against the few who are ruining for the rest.

It only becomes the whole group when the group does not make their bad players accountable.

Yes, when you bring up grooming of kids in public schools, that is bringing up an entire group.

Afterall, it was only an issue at election time. It's now forgotten about.

I do refuse to acknowledge your over reaction. I told you several times, I don't believe conspiracy theory BS.

And I got to the bottom of that nonsense by asking you to ask your LGBT friends how many kids they are required to groom. And you correctly pointed out, they don't groom. It was made up.
When will MAGA be accountable for crimes? A felon leader. Cult members stormed the USA capitol putting congress into hiding. And the MAGA leader pardons all of them.

Start in your own closet by cleaning out the bad players. Led by a felon.
And, I don't need to spout a conspiracy theory to bring those actions up.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Yes, when you bring up grooming of kids in public schools, that is bringing up an entire group.

Only to the extent that they do not speak out against the bad players in their group.

Afterall, it was only an issue at election time. It's now forgotten about.

It was not just an election issue. If you think that, then that is an indication you do not believe other people have valid viewpoints.

I do refuse to acknowledge your over reaction. I told you several times, I don't believe conspiracy theory BS.

Not conspiracy. Individual perverts in the group that the rest of the group appears to support. they should speak out against the perverts in their group.

And I got to the bottom of that nonsense by asking you to ask your LGBT friends how many kids they are required to groom. And you correctly pointed out, they don't groom. It was made up.
When will MAGA be accountable for crimes? A felon leader. Cult members stormed the USA capitol putting congress into hiding. And the MAGA leader pardons all of them.

Why do you disregard I am not claiming the whole group does this? You are saying I am claiming things I do not claim. You are projecting lies on me.

That is despicable.

 

[Lisa]

Only to the extent that they do not speak out against the bad players in their group.

It was not just an election issue. If you think that, then that is an indication you do not believe other people have valid viewpoints.

Not conspiracy. Individual perverts in the group that the rest of the group appears to support. they should speak out against the perverts in their group.

Why do you disregard I am not claiming the whole group does this? You are saying I am claiming things I do not claim. You are projecting lies on me.

That is despicable.

Who are the supposed perverts you are referring to? Grooming is not possible so the group isn't supporting anyone. This entire charade is a conspiracy theory that you have bought into and now you are inventing people who claim to support something that doesn't exist.

 

[Phys251]

Only to the extent that they do not speak out against the bad players in their group.

It was not just an election issue. If you think that, then that is an indication you do not believe other people have valid viewpoints.

Not conspiracy. Individual perverts in the group that the rest of the group appears to support. they should speak out against the perverts in their group.

Why do you disregard I am not claiming the whole group does this? You are saying I am claiming things I do not claim. You are projecting lies on me.

That is despicable.

Your faux outrage is pathetic. Transgender people want to live as we do. That's it. Apparently saying that makes me "far left" or something.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Your faux outrage is pathetic. Transgender people want to live as we do. That's it. Apparently saying that makes me "far left" or something.

I have stated before, they can live as they please. I have no problem with that. Just let others live as they please too.

 

[Phys251]

I have stated before, they can live as they please. I have no problem with that. Just let others live as they please too.

If only that were true.

 

[Lord of Planar]

If only that were true.

You have a vivid imagination. Too bad that's all it is.

 

[Phys251]

You have a vivid imagination. Too bad that's all it is.

Your post is an ad hom that doesn't address the point. Too bad that's all it is.

 

[dairyair]

Only to the extent that they do not speak out against the bad players in their group.

It was not just an election issue. If you think that, then that is an indication you do not believe other people have valid viewpoints.

Not conspiracy. Individual perverts in the group that the rest of the group appears to support. they should speak out against the perverts in their group.

Why do you disregard I am not claiming the whole group does this? You are saying I am claiming things I do not claim. You are projecting lies on me.

That is despicable.

Other people have valid viewpoints.
But only when they aren't spouting conspiracy theory rhetoric. Was there drag queen reading hour, yes. Was it a threat to public education and the goal was to "groom", your words, kids all over the country? Heck NO!!!

Perverts? Says someone likely in MAGA camp and a leader of much sexual assault accusations. And a civil suit loss. MAGA cares nothing about perverts.

I am no longer disregarding the whole group. I acknowledged you made a mountain out of a mole hill and you admit your friends as well as 99.99% of LGBTQ are not grooming children.
Not that children could ever be groomed. But you believing it could happen was disturbing for an adult to believe.

 

[dairyair]

What in my opinion keeps the hate alive, is the LBGT community themselves. They push themselves, against parents wishes, into the lives of their children.

How does one push themselves into someone else's life?

If you mean, they won't hide in a closet so you don't have to see them and be upset, the issue is that of the person, not a LGBT person just wanting to live and be seen as normal as a hetero.

People simply can't tell other people to go and hide. Is that what you're wishing for?

Are you joking? Haven't you seen the anger of parents from so-called artists performing in elementary schools?

Doesn't that suggest it should not have been in a public school?

Why do you want to groom children?

Here is the thread that started this grooming thing.
And in the 1st claim of that, it/you blamed the LGBT community. That sounds like the entirety of them.

 

[TheGoverness]

Speaking of the opinions of @CLAX1911 on the "community" "unity" :

Yeah, it really more reads as a desire that the OP wants, rather than it being an actuality.

I've been to multiple queer events since 2025 began, it all seems plenty fine to me. Of course, there's always going to be bickering and division, as is with all humans. But as of current, in regards to most of the queer spaces I take part in online, pretty much all are putting up a united front even moreso than usual (for obvious reasons).


And as long as there's LGBT people, there will always be a need for the community space. Not even just for a safety net for family fallouts, but for bonding, to make connections, to find love, etc.

The community in all of its united shades is necessary.