Levy implicates Blair as 'top man' in peerages probe (1 Viewer)

[jujuman13]

It is to be hoped that at the very least this man will be thoroughly probed for some of his deceitful measures.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=413312&in_page_id=1770

 

[GarzaUK]

It is to be hoped that at the very least this man will be thoroughly probed for some of his deceitful measures.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=413312&in_page_id=1770

Blair will get away it, he always does. :roll:

 

[jfuh]

Seems you Brits are having similar "administrative" issues as we Americans are.

 

[Jay R]

Seems you Brits are having similar "administrative" issues as we Americans are.

Worse in actual fact. At least both houses of the U.S. government are elected by a democratic process. Even when an administration in Number 10 isn't paying off all major its debtors with peerage nominations the Lords is still a bloody private club for an elite. And worse than that, post-Blair we will see Brown and probably Cameron pushing for party funding to come from the taxpayers pockets, so not only will we be financing our personal crooks of choice but also the opposition crooks and the extremist crooks as well! Madness! And yet somehow very British.:roll:

 

[jfuh]

Worse in actual fact. At least both houses of the U.S. government are elected by a democratic process. Even when an administration in Number 10 isn't paying off all major its debtors with peerage nominations the Lords is still a bloody private club for an elite. And worse than that, post-Blair we will see Brown and probably Cameron pushing for party funding to come from the taxpayers pockets, so not only will we be financing our personal crooks of choice but also the opposition crooks and the extremist crooks as well! Madness! And yet somehow very British.:roll:

Sounds like bullshit. No wonder Orwell wrote 1984.

 

[PeteEU]

Worse in actual fact. At least both houses of the U.S. government are elected by a democratic process. Even when an administration in Number 10 isn't paying off all major its debtors with peerage nominations the Lords is still a bloody private club for an elite. And worse than that, post-Blair we will see Brown and probably Cameron pushing for party funding to come from the taxpayers pockets, so not only will we be financing our personal crooks of choice but also the opposition crooks and the extremist crooks as well! Madness! And yet somehow very British.:roll:

Yea I agree that the house of lords should be more democraticly elected or its power stripped, but it is how its been done for hundreds of years...

but its still peanuts compared to the money involved in US politics..

 

[Red_Dave]

Yea I agree that the house of lords should be more democraticly elected or its power stripped, but it is how its been done for hundreds of years...

but its still peanuts compared to the money involved in US politics..

Ild agree with the democratically electing but no the power stripping. Quite the opossite actually. Surely an effective second chamber is needed to balance out the priministers power? The current system centers far to much power on one guy.

 

[jujuman13]

Democracy for sale

And yet still more.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/...WAVCBQYIV0?xml=/opinion/2006/11/13/dl1302.xml

LEFTY HENRY, you are quite correct, the so called 'Lords' should be a democratically elected chamber, but it should be restricted to shall we say elder statesmen who are elected outside of party affiliation, as well as being given stronger powers.
It seems to me that the Lords do either add amendments that strengthen some Bills and also reject other Bills that seek to reduce the freedoms the British have enjoyed for hundreds of years.
However it is interesting to note that Press Freedom within the UK are considered to be 27th in an International review, as opposed to the US where there they rank 53rd as carried out by an International Organization called (RSF) Reporters San Frontiers/ Reporters without Borders. (For those who do not know that the French word for without is San).

 

[Red_Dave]

Re: Democracy for sale

And yet still more.

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Telegraph | Comment | Democracy for sale

LEFTY HENRY, you are quite correct, the so called 'Lords' should be a democratically elected chamber, but it should be restricted to shall we say elder statesmen who are elected outside of party affiliation, as well as being given stronger powers.
It seems to me that the Lords do either add amendments that strengthen some Bills and also reject other Bills that seek to reduce the freedoms the British have enjoyed for hundreds of years.
However it is interesting to note that Press Freedom within the UK are considered to be 27th in an International review, as opposed to the US where there they rank 53rd as carried out by an International Organization called (RSF) Reporters San Frontiers/ Reporters without Borders. (For those who do not know that the French word for without is San).

Im not sure how i feel about being confused with leftyhenry but the house of lords cant veto bills completely but can delay them for two years. If they could veto bills as an elected body this would make the government more acountable.

The latest U.S election is a great example of how a two-chamberd legislature can bring about government acountabilty. U.S policy was headed in a direction its people didnt like, they voted against it, and now it can change. The only opertunity the brittish have to do this is at [unfair] general elections every 5 years which means the brittish government is less acountable.

Why outside party affilation btw? ild see no problem with it as long as a party list system was used.

 

[jujuman13]

Sorry RED DAVE, I got confused.