Let's Have an "Intense Conversation"

[Neal N. Bloeme]

So what does this guy mean by "intense conversation". This looks like it will be a theme in this campaign. Is this intimidation? Is this democracy? I think it's tyranny of special interest groups over the people. What do you think?

“We can’t write checks for ten and thirty million,” said Holt Baker but “what we can do is engage in intensive, deep, one-on-one conversations between the 400,000 unionists going out there and voters, in their workplaces and at their doors. The labor leaders said the volunteers will carry out intensive conversations.

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[Mycroft]

Here is an example of the union's concept of "intense conversation":

 

[haymarket]

Any article that begins with UNION THUGS had better quickly document some criminal convictions on the part of the subjects of the article or it is flushed away with the other crap.

 

[Neal N. Bloeme]

This is an "intense conversation". Fascinating.

Racist Pro-Union Supporters Goes After Gay Black Tea Party Member At Denver Rally - YouTube

 

[Wiggen]

"Union Thugs" is a buzz phrase, popular with those on the far Right, which loosely translated means anybody who believes workers have some basic rights and the world wasn't created for the benefit of a handful of robber barons.

Hope that helps.

PS You can generally be assured that anybody who uses that phrase in a political discussion doesn't have a clue.

 

[Truckstop]

PS You can generally be assured that anybody who uses that phrase in a political discussion doesn't have a clue.

That could also be said of "robber barons" and "teabaggers".

 

[Boo Radley]

That could also be said of "robber barons" and "teabaggers".

Not sure anyone uses the term "robber baron" any more. As for teabaggers, this is often meant as an insult. I don't think anyone needs it as the tea party has largely been their own worst enemy. Many of their candidates alone have presented them in a poor light.

That said, I will agree that misrepresenting groups through hyperbolic and inaccurate language and inaccurate spin of words said is not limited to ANY party or ideaology. On that I agree.

 

[Neal N. Bloeme]

"Union Thugs" is a buzz phrase, popular with those on the far Right, which loosely translated means anybody who believes workers have some basic rights and the world wasn't created for the benefit of a handful of robber barons.

Hope that helps.

PS You can generally be assured that anybody who uses that phrase in a political discussion doesn't have a clue.

So the Tea Party is made up of "robber barons"? Gee, I didn't know that. Learn something every day.

 

[Neal N. Bloeme]

Not sure anyone uses the term "robber baron" any more. As for teabaggers, this is often meant as an insult. I don't think anyone needs it as the tea party has largely been their own worst enemy. Many of their candidates alone have presented them in a poor light.

That said, I will agree that misrepresenting groups through hyperbolic and inaccurate language and inaccurate spin of words said is not limited to ANY party or ideaology. On that I agree.

Really? So the election of 2010 didn't really happen and the Dems didn't suffer a major defeat. Learn something every day around here.

 

[Boo Radley]

Really? So the election of 2010 didn't really happen and the Dems didn't suffer a major defeat. Learn something every day around here.

What does that have to with what I said? Perhaps you think that means some of the tea party candidates don't make the tea party look bad? That would be incorrect. Stupid wins more than a few a times.

 

[Boo Radley]

"Union Thugs" is a buzz phrase, popular with those on the far Right, which loosely translated means anybody who believes workers have some basic rights and the world wasn't created for the benefit of a handful of robber barons.

Hope that helps.

PS You can generally be assured that anybody who uses that phrase in a political discussion doesn't have a clue.

I actually missed the word robber baron. ALmost never hear that any more.

 

[haymarket]

So the Tea Party is made up of "robber barons"? Gee, I didn't know that. Learn something every day.

Which post alleged that?

 

[Wiggen]

So the Tea Party is made up of "robber barons"? Gee, I didn't know that. Learn something every day.

No, generally the Tea Party is made up mostly of angry white folks who are far to the right politically and who have racist tendencies.

Hope that clears things up for you.

 

[Wiggen]

I actually missed the word robber baron. ALmost never hear that any more.

If you look in the dictionary, next to the phrase you'll find pictures of people like the Waltons and the Koch Brothers.

 

[Wiggen]

Really? So the election of 2010 didn't really happen and the Dems didn't suffer a major defeat. Learn something every day around here.

Actually, I have you pegged as the kind of guy who rarely learns anything new.

 

[Truckstop]

No, generally the Tea Party is made up mostly of angry white folks who are far to the right politically and who have racist tendencies.

Hope that clears things up for you.

You just think exactly like you are told to think don't you. This kind of ignorance is what keeps people from even wanting to try to work together.

 

[Billy the Kid]

Here is an example of the union's concept of "intense conversation":

Hate to admit this but I once protest, for higher wages and better benefits which compared with today were really cadillac IMO, with a family member who was a Teamster at one of the auto plants in Detroit. The guys in your video brought back memories. These guys reminded me of the "ones brought in from outside" to protest with the regular folks. Learned a valuable lesson that day.

 

[Billy the Kid]

No, generally the Tea Party is made up mostly of angry white folks who are far to the right politically and who have racist tendencies.

Hope that clears things up for you.

Clears up something for me, I can't speak for the others. You are the typical Libby who believes in - "When all else fails . . . . use name calling". I know it worked on the playground, but it doesn't work in the adult world. But hey, keep it up cause it makes you feel really, really happy thinking you've scored a point, right? :2razz:

 

[haymarket]

If you look in the dictionary, next to the phrase you'll find pictures of people like the Waltons and the Koch Brothers.

Hey now - I happen to love The Waltons.

 

[Mycroft]

"Union Thugs" is a buzz phrase, popular with those on the far Right, which loosely translated means anybody who believes workers have some basic rights and the world wasn't created for the benefit of a handful of robber barons.

Hope that helps.

PS You can generally be assured that anybody who uses that phrase in a political discussion doesn't have a clue.

Actually, you are wrong.

There is an Urban Dictionary definition for "union thug":

union thug

a skilled yet uneducated tradesman who uses physical intimidation and loud voices to scare others (namely employers) into not firing them.
Urban Dictionary: union thug

I would add that these union thugs will also use these same tactics for political purposes.

 

[Slartibartfast]

You are using urban dictionary as a debate reference....

 

[Dittohead not!]

From the OP:

The Communist (I do not use that term recklessly) publication People’s World has an article full of threats and libel from union thugs and Soros-funded voter fraud deniers directed at law abiding Americans: “Labor raising an ‘army of 400,000′ for the 2012 elections.”

Groups like True the Vote and Judicial Watch are working to cleanse the voter rolls of ineligible and dead voters, using federal laws Eric Holder’s Justice Department won’t enforce.

Gosh, doesn't that sound nice and balanced though? Why, of course the opposition is just a bunch of commies and union thugs trying to foil the good guys in their attempt to bring about fair elections and thus save this, the greatest nation on Earth from the threats of Communism and thuggery. Now, who could possibly see anything implausible about their position?

 

[Born Free]

Seems like a perfect example of a "Union Thug" to me.

Jimmy Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Let's Take These Son Of Bitches Out" | RealClearPolitics

Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa had some profane, combative words for Republicans while warming up the crowd for President Obama in Detroit, Michigan on Monday.

"We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face: The war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They've got a war, they got a war with us and there's only going to be one winner. It's going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We're going to win that war," Jimmy Hoffa said to a heavily union crowd.

"President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong," Hoffa added.

 

[Mycroft]

You are using urban dictionary as a debate reference....

Sure...why not? It fits, it's accurate and, unlike the "definition" advanced by Wiggen, it doesn't rely on hyperbolic ideology.

 

[StillBallin75]

Sure...why not? It fits, it's accurate and, unlike the "definition" advanced by Wiggen, it doesn't rely on hyperbolic ideology.

Irony at its finest. The term "union thug" is by itself a phrase politicized by ideology. If there are "union thugs," then there sure as hell are "employer thugs."