Why do you openly show hateful basis towards your fellow Americans simply because they exercise their freedom to live where they want to live?
How can you support a system which gives some voters in some states FOUR times the weight behind their vote than other voters?
Far as I am concern, Trump is the legitimate president elect. He won the old fashioned way of out campaigning Hillary Clinton in the last two weeks leading up to the election. This election was between two bum candidates that should never have been, but was. One of the bums had to lose. It just happened it was the Democratic bum who lost to the Republican bum. Run a decent candidate, one without so much baggage, one who America trusted and wasn't viewed as dishonest and corrupt, one who didn't laugh about putting our classified national security information at risk, etc., etc., etc,, that candidate would have beaten Trump by 10 or more points and probably carried not only Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, but Florida, North Carolina, Iowa as well.
Bottom line, candidates matter. Perhaps instead of crying about the Russians, it might be better if the Democrats choose a candidate the year of the general election instead of four years earlier. Situations and circumstances change, so to does the mood of the country.
Even if Russia did it AND it affected the outcome of the election, the results would still be valid. The leaked information was true. Now, if the results were affected by hacked voting machines then that would be a whole other story. But that didn't happen.
I'm very interested in seeing what Trump can do.
We have been in the habit of electing great politicians who have no practical experience in running anything.
Trump was obviously the opposite. A not so great politician that has all kinds of experience running a large, complex organization.
I'm looking forward to observing the outcomes he produces.
I haven't a clue how good or bad Trump will be. With all his foot in mouth disease during the campaign to include the primaries, he proved he wasn't a politician. Yes, it will be most interesting.
I have at least one meaningful negotiation almost daily.
Negotiating with a guy like Trump is a nightmare.
In negotiating for the USA he holds all the cards and he knows it.
I like that.
We shall see. I really don't know what to expect. So I am in a wait and see mode. After he has been president for a while will I make up my mind about him. Interesting times ahead, that is for sure.
It is!
The rumor is that the Chinese have a curse that says, "May you live in interesting times".
I suppose we'll see.
That's just whiny sore loser speak. It has nothing to do with hatred or bias. It has to do with the fact our founders did not want a handful of densely populated states running everything.Its also why our house and senate is the way it is.Why do you openly show hateful basis towards your fellow Americans simply because they exercise their freedom to live where they want to live?
How can you support a system which gives some voters in some states FOUR times the weight behind their vote than other voters?
1. The electoral College is in place. This is not a new thing. If you really want to change this, convene a constitutional convention.
2. If Hillary had not committed the crime and then obstructed justice, destroyed evidence and delayed the investigation by every means, legal and illegal possible, this would have all been public 3 years ago. No matter what else is true of this, the actual crime, the cover up and the timing is squarely on Hillary and her team of criminals.
3. The person at Wikileaks said that the leaks did NOT come from the Russians.
Ummm... Because it's what is legal.
That's just whiny sore loser speak.
Intentionally and purposely using a insulting pejorative to demean your opponents arguments renders your post not worthy of any serious reply.
Let me know when you want to discuss matters of nation policy as an adult without the petty insults.
Trump is clearly illegitimate as a president. And for three very good reasons.
1- It is the very mechanism that puts him into office that renders him illegitimate at the same time - the Electoral College. Trump lost the popular vote by over 2,865,000 votes. And that will forever stain him since everyone knows he was NOT the choice of the American people.
It’s a dramatic uptick since the election. Trump’s favorability has grown 9 points, 37 percent to 46 percent
Poll: Trump's popularity soars after election
2016 Presidential Election
ABC News/Washington Post
October 28-31, 2016
1,182 likely voters
Margin of error: +/- 3.0
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/polls/
D Hillary Clinton 46% R Donald Trump 46%
2- the illegal Comey letter the played a significant role in turning the election from Clinton to Trump over the last ten days of the campaign
3- the interference by the Russians in our election with their wikileaks releases which hurt Clinton
Trump is the most illegitimate President since Andrew Johnson took over in 1865.
I know of nobody here or anywhere that questions the legality of the EC. So why do you bring it up to justify its use? Slavery was legal. Do you then approve of its usage?
It's not legal today.
So what. It was at one time for a very long time. And legality is not any justification for the merit of anything.
If Putin's meddling in the US election tipped the scale in favor of Trump, does not that make Trump's presidency questionable?
Why is Trump so eager to downplay that possibility?
Of course it is.
The Supreme Court rarely uses only the letter of the law to determine what is legal at any particular moment.
The long and checkered history of this country's struggle with the legality of Slavery is evidence enough of that.
The justification of slavery was rationalized by the justices as being needed for the existence of the union. No slavery, no Union. No Union, no country and so it goes.
Times change.
Except the justification here has been its the legal system that elected Trump and everybody is simply suppose to bend over the table and take it because of that. So lets face reality and not try to couch this in incites about history and the law and preserving the union.
Ummm
No, it was the American people through the long established election system.
How pray-tell did the legal system elect Trump in your eyes?
news flash for you: the election system is the legal system we have to elect a president.
News flash for you...
The "legal system" did not elect Trump.
The people did.
WOW!!!!!! I have rarely seen anyone intentionally get it so wrong just to pretend they can go one up. WOW!!!!!
I am NOT talking about the LEGAL SYSTEM that handles accusations of illegality, provides trials and adduction of those accusations. That is one kind of LEGAL SYSTEM and it should have been obvious any fair minded person that is NOT the context of this usage.
I am referring to the normal election process that results in the EC selecting the president - that is the legal (LEGAL as in according to the Constitution and law) system (SYSTEM as in the mechanism and steps in that mechanism) we have for selecting the President.
I would have thought the context of the discussion made that crystal clear.
So, legal system does not = legal system.
Yes, you were so clear..... :lamo
I thought you were having Gorespasm a la 2000.
In the context we were speaking about the legal system was the legal mechanism to elect the President. Honestly, I think any honest person knew that and it was abundantly clear.
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