The progressive left in America has levied a constant barrage of warnings this past year about the demise of democracy in the United States. But its lectures about the threats to democracy bear no resemblance to the proclamations of freedom and democracy emanating from Ukraine.
Instead, when the progressive left complains about the state of American democracy, it is more or less complaining that it might not win the next election, that the unmanipulated will of the people might actually be expressed, and that all the progressive bureaucrats might actually lose their government jobs.
In reality, the progressive left is no defender of democracy. Instead, it has worked to erode the self-government foundations underlying democracy. The progressive view of democracy is when the Democratic Party wins elections.[/qquote]
The left can't make up their minds which they are, so they end up using the terms interchangeably.This article echoes a point I've been making since I joined the forum: Progressives are not liberals and liberals are not progressive
LMAO this article and stupidity like it is one of the many reasons i became independent in my early 20s.This article echoes a point I've been making since I joined the forum: Progressives are not liberals and liberals are not progressive
They are illiberal and regressive. Not liberal.This article echoes a point I've been making since I joined the forum: Progressives are not liberals and liberals are not progressive
They are illiberal and regressive. Not liberal.
The left can't make up their minds which they are, so they end up using the terms interchangeably.
I sure hope they stretched before those mental gymnastics.This article echoes a point I've been making since I joined the forum: Progressives are not liberals and liberals are not progressive
I’m a second amendment liberal, for instance.“You’re what I say you are and I give you only two options to ‘define’ yourselves on my terms.”
There’s a winning thread topic. It is perfectly possible for an individual to subscribes to elements of several political schools of thought.
Awe. You know some antonyms. Did you use your thesaurus?They are illiberal and regressive. Not liberal.
Because some opinion writer on your RWNJ site says so?This article echoes a point I've been making since I joined the forum: Progressives are not liberals and liberals are not progressive
You can't be. Bullseye assures us it is not possible to subscribe to more than one political platform. Sorry you'll have to drop one.I’m a second amendment liberal, for instance.
/thread“You’re what I say you are and I give you only two options to ‘define’ yourselves on my terms.”
There’s a winning thread topic. It is perfectly possible for an individual to subscribes to elements of several political schools of thought.
>>One Pew poll reveals that only ten percent of young Democrats believe America stands above other countries in the world.<<This article echoes a point I've been making since I joined the forum: Progressives are not liberals and liberals are not progressive
Progressives are not liberals and liberals are not progressive
Would disagree.
Progressives are probably the definition of true liberals.
Definition of liberal.
1 - a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.
2 - a supporter of a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.
true liberals are the ones who wanted more personal freedom, less collectivization and less centralized authority.Would disagree.
Progressives are probably the definition of true liberals.
Definition of liberal.
1 - a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.
2 - a supporter of a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.
Your assertion without evidence is dismissed out of hand.Progressives are not liberals and liberals are not progressive
Liberals and Progressives are basically the same things.
Both warn of Republican attempts to destroy our Democracy because that is literally what you tried to do, and are actively trying to do today and if Republicans are allowed to regain power there is a very real chance they won't fail at keeping it next time.
true liberals are the ones who wanted more personal freedom,
No, it really isn't. Most liberals have a natural hatred of being pigeonholed into broad groups. Progressives are mostly just people who decided they didn't like one particular Liberal or one statement supported by Liberals so they felt the need to declare themselves as an entirely different group, but the reality is the average Liberal and the average so-called Progressive agree on about 95% of things.The above is very untrue.
Exactly my response to the OP, but I'd add tyrannical and authoritarian as well, given their obvious support of 'The Great Reset'.They are illiberal and regressive. Not liberal.
Agreed.true liberals are the ones who wanted more personal freedom, less collectivization and less centralized authority.
No, it really isn't. ... Progressives are mostly just people who decided they didn't like one particular Liberal or one statement supported by Liberals so they felt the need to declare themselves as an entirely different group, but the reality is the average Liberal and the average so-called Progressive agree on about 95% of things.
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You have a point.But the word Progressive has been hijacked in recent years by fatherless anarchist punks that hate Police and law & order, and have a desire to tear things down with no idea whatsoever of what or how to build in its place. Like the idiots that take stuff like CopBlok seriously
I used to call myself a "Progressive", back when it meant something good.
Now I'm just a lefty.
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