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Whenever minimum wage increases are proposed on the state or federal level, business groups tend to fight them tooth and nail. But actual opposition may not be as united as the groups' rhetoric might make it appear, according to internal research conducted by a leading consultant for state chambers of commerce.
The survey of 1,000 business executives across the country was conducted by LuntzGlobal, the firm run by Republican pollster Frank Luntz, and obtained by a liberal watchdog group called the Center for Media and Democracy. (The slide deck is here, and the full questionnaire is here.) Among the most interesting findings: 80 percent of respondents said they supported raising their state's minimum wage, while only eight percent opposed it.
"That’s where it’s undeniable that they support the increase,” Luntz told state chamber executives in a webinar describing the results, noting that it squares with other polling they’ve done. “And this is universal. If you’re fighting against a minimum wage increase, you’re fighting an uphill battle, because most Americans, even most Republicans, are okay with raising the minimum wage.”
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This would destroy many of the poor and uneducated, which is the whole point, isn't it? Get them on the government dole and completely dependent on the government?
Read more @: Leaked documents show strong business support for raising the minimum wage
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This would destroy many of the poor and uneducated, which is the whole point, isn't it? Get them on the government dole and completely dependent on the government?
Read more @: Leaked documents show strong business support for raising the minimum wage
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Raising their states min wage... not the fed min wage. an important point.
I question the validity of this though... nothing is stopping these businesses from officering more money. so why would it matter to them.
I think most policy makers on the right are against raising the wage on both the state and federal level
Raising their states min wage... not the fed min wage. an important point.
I question the validity of this though... nothing is stopping these businesses from officering more money. so why would it matter to them.
What is the point to a higher minimum wage?
Is it so to achieve a 'living' wage? The poverty line for one person in the lower 48 states is $11,880. Someone full time at $7.25/hr. makes $14,500; substantially more then the poverty line...so it already is a 'living' wage.
https://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty-guidelines
Is it to keep up with inflation? The original national minimum wage was two bits an hour back in the thirties...and that equates to under $5/hr. with inflation. So it's not that.
Is it just the desire for those on minimum wage to earn as much as possible...regardless of productivity? Well, people are entitled to their opinions. But if you are asking for a $15/minimum wage BUT also are pissed off because of American jobs going overseas...then you are shooting yourself in the foot. Massively raising the minimum wage without any increase in output greatly lowers productivity...and low productivity (compared to China et al) is probably the main reason jobs are leaving America.
So, by calling for a massively higher minimum wage (which will have a ripple effect which will raise almost all wages to some extent) you are just making job migration worse...possibly much worse.
I can certainly sympathize with those who depend on minimum wage for a living. But you cannot have something for nothing. If you want WAY more pay for ZERO extra effort, somewhere down the line there WILL be a cost. There always is.
Your linkage of wages to productivity is puzzling to me. Very few employees are paid based on their productivity (on a piece work or commission basis) most workers are paid (hourly on on a salary) based on what is required to attract their replacement and/or to retain their labor. If a few days of training (or experience) is all that is required then that, rather than productivity, is more likely to influence the "fair market" value of labor.
You cannot make a man worth a given amount by making it illegal for anyone to offer him anything less. You merely deprive him of the right to earn the amount that his abilities and situation would permit him to earn, while you deprive the community even of the moderate services that he is capable of rendering. In brief, for a low wage you substitute unemployment. You do harm all around, with no comparable compensation.
For companies that have jobs starting beyond minimum wage, it increases their customer base at no cost to them. I could definitely see a company like verizon or other telecoms supporting an increase in MW: their workers are already well beyond it, and the extra mandated money will probably go for things like cell phones, or upgraded plans. Same thing with auto manufacturers. So, one could consider it a tax on no/low skill industries to support skilled ones.Raising their states min wage... not the fed min wage. an important point.
I question the validity of this though... nothing is stopping these businesses from officering more money. so why would it matter to them.
I don't really see the point of it all myself. If I was running a business my goal would be to get quality people and pay them a good wage to keep them.
the corporate world , in general I mean I'm sure there are some that get it, don't value employee retention enough.
onboarding someone and training them and the learning curve to proficiency is a lot of lost productivity.
Read more @: Leaked documents show strong business support for raising the minimum wage
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it is a shame they didnt ask HOW MUCH of a raise they would be okay with....isnt it?
i have zero issue with a raise up to $ 9.00 a hour....i have said so many times
that is a substantial increase from the $ 7.25 and is a doable number
it is the asinine numbers of $ 15.00 an hour and such that is ridiculous
this is one of those yea raise it but well guess what why does it have to be raised?
if they want to pay their people more then well they can already do that.
why do they need government to force them to do it?
that is the same with liberals like buffett that whine and cry that he should pay more taxes.
he can already do that now so why does he need the government for force him to do it.
any business can pay their employee's whatever they want to. they don't need government to force them
to do it. yet they don't.
the federal minimum hasnt changed much in a lot of years
a change up to $ 9.00 is warranted....
i wouldnt go above that....but that number seems like common sense to me
Which is why our economy was destroyed the dozens of other times we have raised the minimum wage over the past 8 decades or so...
I think 15 dollars an hour is a bridge too far, but there is no reason to believe that fairly modest increases in the minimum wage have ever done anything to the poor other than put a little more money in their pocket.
For companies that have jobs starting beyond minimum wage, it increases their customer base at no cost to them. I could definitely see a company like verizon or other telecoms supporting an increase in MW: their workers are already well beyond it, and the extra mandated money will probably go for things like cell phones, or upgraded plans. Same thing with auto manufacturers. So, one could consider it a tax on no/low skill industries to support skilled ones.
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