If Ted Cruz has no shot of winning, then this country is in worse shape than I thought.[/QUOTE]
Cruz has zero chance of being elected president of the USA. Wait and see.
That seemed to be what you were saying to me. Here, just tell me this. In Excons mind, was John McCain, Barak Obama and Ted Cruz all three eligible for the presidency?
Because Obama is black. That is the irony of this whole thing....the tea baggers have no problem with Cruz because he is a white guy. What complete hypocrites they are.
Are you kidding? The man is a horse's ass.
Not quite the same; both McCain's parents were U.S. citizens. Only one of Cruz' - his mother - is/was (not sure if she's still alive). Of course, as I've said before, current INA law takes into account at least one parent born on U.S. soil to confer U.S. citizenship unto the child.
Me? You mean Obama, he's the one that said there are 57 states: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...3YKIAQ&usg=AFQjCNGb7uU-RcDBuTGcjL3HFMxS_04r_A
Where did I say that?
She did say kenya is his home country.... http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...3IDQCw&usg=AFQjCNHl1EPFwR0WfYKTaB6EhJlKyKGDGABorn in Kenya? Wasn't that Michelle Obama that said that?
What I said was already clear.
All you had to do was read what was in this thread.
Post #s, 9, 19, 23. I am sure there are more, but it should be pretty evident what I said.
Which should have been evident when I replied to your post in post #36. When I replied that no "there you don't have it" that would mean the post to which you were referring was wrong. Which I had corrected them one post before replying to you in post #35.
Like I said, all you had to do was read what was in this thread. :shrug:
Just give me ... nothing.That's as confusing as anything. Are those three men eligible to be president or not, just give me a yes, or a no! Please.
She did say kenya is his home country.... http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...3IDQCw&usg=AFQjCNHl1EPFwR0WfYKTaB6EhJlKyKGDGA
I don't understand why Obamatrons still get mad when this is refrenced since it comes from the Obamas themselves. What's Cruz's middle name?
No Montecresto, there you don't have it.
She provided you faulty information.
Congress realized their error and corrected the mistake and the language was changed a short five years later in 1795 to just "citizen".
It's a very stupid observation. "African Americans" almost all have white blood from their abuse when they were slaves. Few have only African blood.
But the ignorant like to bring it up as if it's relevant. Blacks in this country have had little recourse but to identify with their visible attribute, almost as a defense mechanism...since the minute racist whites saw them THEY immediately declared them 'black', no matter how dark or light.
I find that and the old 'one drop' laws particularly offensive. Traces back to a MASH episode during my childhood I think, when they discussed black people dying because they werent admitted to 'white only' hospitals and were, in that case, not given blood transfusions to save their lives.
Hence the old expression, a "compliment"....you are 'passin', meaning you could pass for white. It always made me sick to my stomach to hear it and read it after that as a kid...and adult.
/rant
About as much as I believe "african" americans are actually born in africa. What does Obama's birth place have to do with anything? I'm scottish/german and I wasn't born in scotland or germany. Please stop trying to derail the thread. We have a kenyan in office so it's no big deal if we elect a canadian. A canadian would actually be the better choice since 90% of the canadian population lives within 100 miles of the US border anyway and are likely more atune to US politics.
That's as confusing as anything. Are those three men eligible to be president or not, just give me a yes, or a no! Please.
If Ted Cruz has no shot of winning, then this country is in worse shape than I thought.[/QUOTE]
Cruz has zero chance of being elected president of the USA. Wait and see.
And why is that? What is your information on it? Obama had about the same shot, and he even got reelected after proving that he was incompetent. At least Cruz has a brain.
Nobody cared about where Barack Obama was born until the Hillary Clinton supporters said he wasn't born in this country.
The issue of where Ted Cruz was born was only ever important to the people who oppose the idea of Ted Cruz being elected President.
Best I can tell, Excon thinks Cruz and McCain aren't natural-born citizens, therefore are not eligible, while Pres. Obama is natural-born, so is.
He cares about what piece of dirt was under the hospital, not who their parents were.
That isn't what the Constitution says. The Constitution requires one be a Naturally born citizen.
That phase has a specific meaning requiring birth to a citizen parent, on US soil, and not being born owing allegiance to another country.
That meaning hasn't changed.
Unfortunately the Supreme Court has never heard the issue so folks like Obama and possibly Cruz can get away with it.
False. Nobody knew. Anyway, if it's constitutionally legal for Cruz to be president of the United States, then I don't understand why we're talking about this. If it's not constitutionally legal for Cruz to be president, then why are we talking about this?
Nobody cared that he was born in Canada. Just like no rational people cared about where Obama was born, until the Hillary people brought it up.
We're talking about it because the man is likely going to declare his candidacy this year. We aren't talking about anyone else who wasn't born in this country because there isn't anyone else who is potentially running for POTUS who wasn't born in this country. We're talking about it for the same reason we've been talking about it for the last few years. We're talking about it now because the Bush and Obama lawyers published their opinions in the Harvard Law Review and it made the media and morphed into a thread on DP.
I hope you don't think that I'm defending Hillary doing that! Anyway, if it's unconstitutional for a person born physically outside of the United States to become president, then how would it be un rational to care about it? If it's legal, where's the grip. If it's not legal, where's the defence?
And so there's nothing wrong with referring Cruz as a canadian just as there's nothing wrong with referring to Obama as a kenyan. That's where these people come from, that's their family lineage.Immigrants to America have long referred to their country of origin as their home country. As those immigrants achieve citizenship here, and have children, and grandchildren here, they all become natural born citizens. It doesn't matter where Obama's father came from, Obama was a natural born citizen. Did Ted Cruz's parents immigrate to the US, was Ted Born here? If he was then he has the same right to become president as Obama did.
Obama is as kenyan as black people per-se are african.He isn't Kenyan, so your point is totally off-target.
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