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Lawyer Kenneth Chesebro, 'Architect' of Trump's 2020 False Electors Scheme, Has Been Disbarred

Fletch said:
How about this? Why should the architect of a plan that 'undercut the very notion of our Constitutional democracy' receive just a slap on the wrist?
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He's a massive Trump supporter.
Where was Trump to defend him?
 
Fletch said:
And your lame trolling is just plain lame.
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And your laughable attempts at covert Trump defenses are simply laughably unoriginal and so blatantly obvious.
EVERYONE on this site knows that you are a hard core MAGA. Even you......lol
 
Showtime586 said:
And your laughable attempts at covert Trump defenses are simply laughably unoriginal and so blatantly obvious.
EVERYONE on this site knows that you are a hard core MAGA. Even you......lol
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Covert?? Lol Your trolling is not just lame, but desperately so.
 
Jagged said:
1960, the governor of Hawaii certified electors for Nixon. After a court found Kennedy actually won that state, the governor then certified the electors for Kennedy. And it was just one state which had no impact on the election no matter who won Hawaii.

Savvy?

Now fast forward to 2020. After 7 states determined Biden won their respective states, every one of them certified their Democratic slates. Not one of those states ever determined Trump actually won their state. Unlike Kennedy in 1960, Trump lost every one of the 60+ court case determining fraud, or him the winner of any of those states. And not any one of those SEVEN states ever certified a slate for Trump. And despite not being certified, they still tried to submit their uncertified Trump electors to Congress. From SEVEN states, and unlike Hawaii in 1960, with the intent of overthrowing the election. It was outright fraud. And Trump was so deeply involved with it, he even gave hope to his base he could still win the election if only Pence goes along with it and accepts those SEVEN slates of uncertified electors. And when Pence didn't, because he couldn't without violating the Constitution, Trump sent hundreds of thousands of Trump fanatics to the Capitol, where they stormed the building. It's downright sickening that anyone tolerates that or supports it.
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Any attempt to challenge the electors in a court of law was thought to be dependent upon your own slate of electors pending the outcome of the legal issues to then certify them as the legal electors. You have the cart before the horse. Otherwise, the court rules it as moot and it is never even examined. That is the only example we have when challenging a result of a state election for President.

New York has let its political propensities take over instead of reasoning that Chesebro was following the only known guideline set.
 
Fletch said:
Covert?? Lol Your trolling is not just lame, but desperately so.
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And yet you respond every time.
Why? Because each Maga denial is actually an admission trying to escape.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Any attempt to challenge the electors in a court of law was thought to be dependent upon your own slate of electors pending the outcome of the legal issues to then certify them as the legal electors. You have the cart before the horse. Otherwise, the court rules it as moot and it is never even examined. That is the only example we have when challenging a result of a state election for President.

New York has let its political propensities take over instead of reasoning that Chesebro was following the only known guideline set.
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You still don't understand. Despite not winning any court cases, and despite losing all 7 states, they still tried getting those electors counted.
 
NuffSaid said:
Look at Rudy Giuliani - Trump doesn't speak to him, mention his name, or even visit him.
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Seems a little careless on Trump's part...I imagine Rudy knows where a few bodies are buried...
 
Jagged said:
You still don't understand. Despite not winning any court cases, and despite losing all 7 states, they still tried getting those electors counted.
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The campaign did. Chesebro did not as far as I can tell. Do you have any evidence he did?
 
Jagged said:
He wasn't charged with filing the certificates of ascertainment. He was charged with conspiracy to filing them.
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Filing electors is not substituting them. It's a very fine difference but it's not the same.
 
Jagged said:
Filing fake electors is a crime. He didn't file them, but he conspired to.
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I would argue that it criminalizes the only viable path to legally challenge a state's election for President. Congratulations on your new authoritarian outlook.
 
OpportunityCost said:
I would argue that it criminalizes the only viable path to legally challenge a state's election for President. Congratulations on your new authoritarian outlook.
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Apparently even Chesebro disagrees with you since he agreed it was criminal.
 
Jagged said:
Apparently even Chesebro disagrees with you since he agreed it was criminal.
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When they intend to railroad you, a plea deal is always part of the package, whether you are guilty or not.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Any attempt to challenge the electors in a court of law was thought to be dependent upon your own slate of electors pending the outcome of the legal issues to then certify them as the legal electors. You have the cart before the horse. Otherwise, the court rules it as moot and it is never even examined. That is the only example we have when challenging a result of a state election for President.

New York has let its political propensities take over instead of reasoning that Chesebro was following the only known guideline set.
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Chesebro absolutely knew the electors being sent in were false. This was not a "just in case we win" situation. This was an explicit criminal conspiracy and it is in writing.

These people identified, in an email sent from one government account to another, when both the sender and recipients are/were lawyers, identifying specifically by name what law they were going to violate and explicitly called it a violation.

Literally "can you commit this specific crime for us?"
 
Deuce said:
Chesebro absolutely knew the electors being sent in were false. This was not a "just in case we win" situation. This was an explicit criminal conspiracy and it is in writing.

These people identified, in an email sent from one government account to another, when both the sender and recipients are/were lawyers, identifying specifically by name what law they were going to violate and explicitly called it a violation.

Literally "can you commit this specific crime for us?"
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Literally, you need to cite things when you quote them.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Literally, you need to cite things when you quote them.
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This was all made a matter of public record during the Jan 6th committee. I'm not going to rehash this again only for you a month or two later to once again pretend like you've never heard of any of this.
 
Deuce said:
This was all made a matter of public record during the Jan 6th committee. I'm not going to rehash this again only for you a month or two later to once again pretend like you've never heard of any of this.
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I didn't watch that. I worked during the day. No time for it. Can the snotty arrogance and just source it.
 
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