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Law Grad Students file lawsuit against colleges. Because they are unemployed.

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I think the students have a valid point.
 
So... these law students are suing the school because they were too lazy to look into how the statistics were compiled before they blew 40 thou?

Wow.
 
MistressNomad said:
So... these law students are suing the school because they were too lazy to look into how the statistics were compiled before they blew 40 thou?

Wow.
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Job placement was a key factor in choosing my degree. Why can't others use that standard. It just seems like common sense.
 
MistressNomad said:
So... these law students are suing the school because they were too lazy to look into how the statistics were compiled before they blew 40 thou?

Wow.
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You mean you think it's fine for the school to have published fraudulent statistics, and it's the students' fault because they didn't assume that the school was lying?

Wow.
 
From what the video said, those statistics are the same as everywhere else. They are only addressing how many graduates got jobs. It is well-known a lot of people work outside the field of their degree - simply having a degree ups your chances. There is nothing unusual about the statistics being given in that way.

They are suing because they didn't get the jobs they *wanted.* No college can guarantee that, nor do they.
 
MistressNomad said:
From what the video said, those statistics are the same as everywhere else. They are only addressing how many graduates got jobs. It is well-known a lot of people work outside the field of their degree - simply having a degree ups your chances. There is nothing unusual about the statistics being given in that way.

They are suing because they didn't get the jobs they *wanted.* No college can guarantee that, nor do they.
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Apparently they also published misleading statistics about the salaries of their graduates which would lead one to believe that reported jobs were law jobs.

Not saying I think the students should win, or get a ton of money if they do win, but it doesn't sound like the school has clean hands here.
 
I'm gonna be pretty pissed if I have to keep working for free after I graduate...
 
AdamT said:
Apparently they also published misleading statistics about the salaries of their graduates which would lead one to believe that reported jobs were law jobs.

Not saying I think the students should win, or get a ton of money if they do win, but it doesn't sound like the school has clean hands here.
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I tend to agree that if misleading stats were used the college is in the wrong. I don't know enough about it to have a solid opinion but I agree with this general idea.

That said, anyone with their degree can get a job. You just hang out your shingle.
 
MrVicchio said:
Law School Grads Sue Over Not Getting Jobs | NBC New York

I don't who I want to win this one, it's just too funny.
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From what I read in an article they are suing because the law schools used dishonest advertisements and lied about their former grads being recruited. They also inflated statistics and wage earnings, and these people are in hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt and expected more. It's not simply a matter of them complaining about the job market.
 
AdamT said:
You mean you think it's fine for the school to have published fraudulent statistics, and it's the students' fault because they didn't assume that the school was lying?

Wow.
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The local hospital is being flooded with applications to work in medical coding... It seems like a trade school in the next state was pushing all kinds of fraudulent information and advertisements about the medical coding career, saying they'd make so much money, jobs were growing, etc. but it's actually shrinking and wages aren't high at all. They have no idea until they get their first job, or until the reality of not getting a job hits them.

It's just a way for some of those schools to make lots of money, and I don't think it's right. It's basically a pyramid scheme.
 
SheWolf said:
From what I read in an article they are suing because the law schools used dishonest advertisements and lied about their former grads being recruited. They also inflated statistics and wage earnings, and these people are in hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt and expected more. It's not simply a matter of them complaining about the job market.
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Just went through the law school process and will be attending law school in the fall. Law schools do not technically lie when they give statistics, but they are very misleading. I had to research such things before applying. First, the schools list what % of graduates are employed nine-months after graduation. The assumption when reading the stats is that these are jobs that can only be obtained with a JD. However, that is not the case; if I work full-time waiting tables, that goes into their statistics as a recent graduate with a job. Obviously a JD is not needed to wait tables, but the law schools don't distinguish between the two. Furthermore, schools base their statistics on the information they receive from graduates. The school asks graduates for an update, but not everyone responds. So who is more likely to respond? A graduate with a solid job and good pay, or someone who still can't find work? Chances are I'm not reporting to my alma mater that I can't find a job so the responses mostly come from the graduates who are doing well. Thus these poorly ranked schools are reporting 95% employment withing 9 months with an average salary of $50,000.

Now before everyone jumps all over the law schools, you must look at it from the law school's perspective. If Thomas M. Cooley School of Law is the only college that doesn't list 95% employment for recent graduates, students won't go there. So in order to keep up with their competitors, Cooley and others have to use the same misleading information to convince students to attend their school. Solution? Have the American Bar Association only allow accreditation to schools who comply with their data qualifications. Schools will be sure to follow the guidelines as losing accreditation would be disastrous for any law school.
 
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