Latest move by some democrats

[Praxas]

If you aren't afraid of the courts then you have nothing to worry about. You're just being mouthy.

Same could be said of you on an almost daily basis. :lamo No, I am not afraid of the courts. But I'm going to call out BS from you and others when I can. So if you don't like it, ask Trump to bend over so you can place your complaint up his ass.

 

[Craig234]

They lost the 2016 election by chasing away white middle class working people and calling the other side deplorables. I actually find it quite funny that the left claim to be tolerant and want to unite the country using phrases like "Stronger together", "For the People", etc and yet they are very intolerant of others, call the other side names, and only want to unite the left. They have no plans whatsoever to include people who are pro-life, pro-second amendment, and against the socialist policies being presented by many of the 2020 candidates.

This is too complicated for you, but Democrats support 'equal rights', so that when white people want to give black people fewer rights, Democrats are against that, while Republicans view the restriction on white people to deny equal rights to black people as violating the *white people's* right to discriminate. Same with, say, banning equal rights on marriage for gay people.

The right, meanwhile, is all about defending that 'right to discriminate'. They refer to the right to deny equal rights to gay people as 'religious freedom'. Democrats support the right's right to participate and vote, while it's the Republicans who fight to deny the right to vote to every Democrat they can.

 

[Barnacle]

So how does the view of ONE Dem somehow translate to all Dems? Again, his comment was lying and now, so are you.

OP did not say all dems; OP referred to "some democrats".

The article I linked to mentions what the dem rep said and also the progressives' attack on a pro-life dem running for re-election.

 

[veritas1]

Dems don't have a problem with people who are personally pro-life, what Dems have a problem with are those who are pro-life and want to force their views on others. You are part of the anti-choice party where you want to force your views onto others.

So, the pro-abortion folks can force their views onto everyone (especially the unborn) but pro-life people are just supposed to sit on the sidelines and sigh. Amazing.

 

[j brown's body]

They lost the 2016 election by chasing away white middle class working people and calling the other side deplorables. I actually find it quite funny that the left claim to be tolerant and want to unite the country using phrases like "Stronger together", "For the People", etc and yet they are very intolerant of others, call the other side names, and only want to unite the left. They have no plans whatsoever to include people who are pro-life, pro-second amendment, and against the socialist policies being presented by many of the 2020 candidates.

Being pro-choice is inclusive. Anyone, regardless of their personal stance on abortion, can fit under that umbrella. Anti-choice, not so much.

 

[j brown's body]

So, the pro-abortion folks can force their views onto everyone (especially the unborn) but pro-life people are just supposed to sit on the sidelines and sigh. Amazing.

The unborn don't have views.

 

[j brown's body]

I am a little surprised that the Trump administration didn't include the counting of fetuses in the next census.

 

[Praxas]

So, the pro-abortion folks can force their views onto everyone (especially the unborn) but pro-life people are just supposed to sit on the sidelines and sigh. Amazing.

Maybe you'll be man enough to answer this question since all the other pro-lifers run away from it. Please show where the pro-choice people are forcing YOU or other pro-lifers to have an abortion? Yes, it is amazing that you would say something so dumb.

 

[veritas1]

What the Democrats fail to understand or simply ignore, is that the most socially conservative part of their base, is blacks. Any inroads into that base by Republicans means Democrats lose.

 

[veritas1]

Maybe you'll be man enough to answer this question since all the other pro-lifers run away from it. Please show where the pro-choice people are forcing YOU or other pro-lifers to have an abortion? Yes, it is amazing that you would say something so dumb.

This isn't an issue about forcing anyone to have an abortion. Framing it that way is a deliberate attempt to derail the discussion. It's a case of taking up for the defenseless who bear the brunt of the all abortion, all the time positions of the left.

 

[Logical1]

Dems don't have a problem with people who are personally pro-life, what Dems have a problem with are those who are pro-life and want to force their views on others. You are part of the anti-choice party where you want to force your views onto others.

The the BIG THING that pro life people have a problem with is using OUR tax money to support Planned Parenthood. So------------it is the pro abortion people that are forcing their views on us.

 

[Praxas]

This isn't an issue about forcing anyone to have an abortion. Framing it that way is a deliberate attempt to derail the discussion. It's a case of taking up for the defenseless who bear the brunt of the all abortion, all the time positions of the left.

You said the pro-choice people were forcing their views on you. How? How is THEM getting an abortion forcing THEIR view onto YOU? You aren't forced to have an abortion so they are forcing nothing on you.

 

[veritas1]

The unborn don't have views.

What does that have to do with them dying as a result of abortion on demand policies?

 

[Logical1]

This is too complicated for you, but Democrats support 'equal rights', so that when white people want to give black people fewer rights, Democrats are against that, while Republicans view the restriction on white people to deny equal rights to black people as violating the *white people's* right to discriminate. Same with, say, banning equal rights on marriage for gay people.

The right, meanwhile, is all about defending that 'right to discriminate'. They refer to the right to deny equal rights to gay people as 'religious freedom'. Democrats support the right's right to participate and vote, while it's the Republicans who fight to deny the right to vote to every Democrat they can.

If democrats support "equal rights" let make it equal between the mother and the unborn baby. Will you support that?

 

[veritas1]

You said the pro-choice people were forcing their views on you. How? How is THEM getting an abortion forcing THEIR view onto YOU? You aren't forced to have an abortion so they are forcing nothing on you.

They've forced their views into law. That law affects everyone, most especially those who don't get to be born, usually because they are "inconvenient".

 

[Praxas]

The the BIG THING that pro life people have a problem with is using OUR tax money to support Planned Parenthood. So------------it is the pro abortion people that are forcing their views on us.

Sorry but tax money is not "forcing abortion" views on you. Also, I have a problem with tax money being used for a lot of things I don't agree with. However, that is the way it is. I don't agree with the drug war, so why should my money go towards that? Does that mean it's ok for the pro-drug war people to "force" their views onto me? Also, tax money is not being used towards abortion, it is sent to places like planned parenthood and that specific money is being used towards other things and not abortion. And yes, they have to show this come tax time. So again, you argument is FALSE.

 

[Logical1]

So, the pro-abortion folks can force their views onto everyone (especially the unborn) but pro-life people are just supposed to sit on the sidelines and sigh. Amazing.

How about pro life peoples taxes used to support the evil baby killers at Planned Parenthood???

 

[Praxas]

They've forced their views into law. That law affects everyone, most especially those who don't get to be born, usually because they are "inconvenient".

How is that law being forced on YOU? Are you forced to have an abortion? NO. Therefore nothing has been forced on you, you just don't like that it is legal. Well tough.

 

[wolfsgirl]

How about pro abortionist that want to force their baby killing ways on the rest of us. It works two ways you know.

Which state has passed a law mandating all women must have an abortion?

 

[Craig234]

The law has long been that no federal money pays for abortions. The money that goes to Planned Parenthood goes to the other 98% of services they provide for women's health, not abortions.

 

[Praxas]

How about pro life peoples taxes used to support the evil baby killers at Planned Parenthood???

Oh please, if no tax money was sent to PP you guys would still complain so don't act like tax money is your MAIN gripe. Tax money is used for things I don't like either. I don't support the drug war so why should my tax money be used for that? Seems you don't have a problem with tax money being used for things YOU like.

 

[Logical1]

In the abortion debate lets not forget that Sanger that invented Planned Parenthood' big aim was to abort black babies. It is basically an extention of the KKK.

Pro life people want NOTHING to do with that.

 

[veritas1]

How is that law being forced on YOU? Are you forced to have an abortion? NO. Therefore nothing has been forced on you, you just don't like that it is legal. Well tough.

I have no problem with it being legal under certain conditions and with certain restrictions. However, if you don't view the unborn as even human, I can see why it's easy to support abortion at any time for any reason.

 

[Logical1]

You said the pro-choice people were forcing their views on you. How? How is THEM getting an abortion forcing THEIR view onto YOU? You aren't forced to have an abortion so they are forcing nothing on you.

See reply # 61

 

[veritas1]

Oh please, if no tax money was sent to PP you guys would still complain so don't act like tax money is your MAIN gripe. Tax money is used for things I don't like either. I don't support the drug war so why should my tax money be used for that? Seems you don't have a problem with tax money being used for things YOU like.

Except that PP is in business making a profit, almost exclusively from abortions. If you oppose farm and other corporate subsidies, you should oppose giving them to PP.