Kremlin Says Putin Survived Overnight Assassination Attempt

[sanman]

All of a sudden America doesn't know if the reports are true but they know everything else in Russia

 

[Luce]

Don't tell me you think some ex US marine killed Kennedy with a rusty Italian rifle LOL!

One of the Oswalds acted alone.

 

[lwf]

The coup in 2014 in Ukraine overturned an elected government. You are now arguing that if the US thinks that the elected government in another country is not legitimate, that the US has a right to overthrow it in a coup? That is what you - purporting to be on the Left -- are advocating?

I never purported to "be on the Left." And the US did not overthrow an elected government.

The bottom line is, if Russia supported a coup in Mexico City, our Marines would be in the Halls of Montezuma quicker than you can say Jack Robinson. And, you know it. The US would do that because it is a security issue for the US - we would not allow our enemies to be on our border like that.

That's a lie and you know it. The US would never invade Mexico and seize the country just because Russia supported a coup against an illegitimate government in Mexico City.

I am not saying Russia is "right" to invade Ukraine. What I am saying is that there is reason behind it. There is a security interest, and the war could have been avoided altogether if the US/NATO had recognized that and negotiated accordingly. The people that are paying for this whole situation are the citizens of Ukraine. They are dying by the thousands, and their country has been wrecked. It was all unnecessary.

And I'm saying the sole reason behind Russia's invasion is imperialist military expansion. It has NOTHING to do with self-defense or some imaginary threat posed by NATO. Putin has wanted Ukraine since the Cold War, and he is willing to murder thousands of Russians and Ukrainians to get it.

Wow. Just.... wow.... what is the US's goal in invading countries all over the world, maintaining hundreds of military bases, assimilating country after country into NATO?

The US is not invading anyone and has not seized territory by force for more than 100 years. And NATO is a voluntary organization. Russia is giving Ukraine no choice in the matter.

 

[lwf]

Same old batshit -- same batshit time, same batshit channel

Threatening to destroy the pipeline -- all on camera in front of the media -- denying it later on -- all on camera in front of the media -- gloating about it later on -- all on camera in front of the media -- then making up some other bullshyte fallback story to protect yourself because you know you violated Article 1 of the US Constitution

Do you have a source for any of that nonsense?

 

[anatta]

LOL The 2 countries are at war and it was not Ukraines choice either. The drone attack was by Russian dissidents as are the many attacks inside Russia. The drones came from the south of Moscow not from Ukraine. You do know the the entire Ukraine border is heavily monitored for missiles and drones coming from Ukraine.

russian dissidents?? lol.. sure there are Russian dissidents with long range drones.. just where a they able to get drones from?
and steer them long range to Moscow we know one got 60 miles. . Were those Russian dissidents as well??we already know Ukraine has been sending waves of drones in

I have no idea what types of drones were are giving Uk, but im sure we give the best that can traverse that.

Also They are hyping up #1 security for red square, concentrating more SAM batteries closer to Moscow.
That would give a better chance the drone could get thru the countryside

The USA bleats "false flag" "we dont know" "we cant valiate drone strikes" on every attack on Russia
Zelensky denies attacking Ruussia, staying on their "own territory" . all expected disinformation

 

[anatta]

Of course Zelenskyy wants to take the war to Russia. Why wouldn't he? Russia took the war to Ukraine, didn't it? Zelenskyy has already survived multiple Russian assassination attempts.

i wouldnt care except the drawdown of our weapons and money to replace b ut the threat of nukes .
It's not our war but nukes are a different matter

Of course there was. Russia was already planning on stopping the flow to Europe. They even announced they were going to as a form of sanction against NATO countries. But this made Europeans angry at Russia. By blowing up the pipeline and blaming it on a third party, Russia got what it wanted without taking the blame for it.

Nordstream 2 never got past the flow testing and permit stage.
I have no idea what you are talking about about "stopping the flow to Europe" except it would be bizarre to do so on a new pipeline
Russia is not going to blow up it's pipeline when it can simply stop the flow.

 

[anatta]

I hope so, but what is your evidence?

Ukraine is betting on drones to strike deep into Russia

With the West dithering about long-range munitions, drones offer an alternative

www.economist.com

February 28th the skies above Russia buzzed with the sound of hostile drones. St Petersburg, the country’s second city, imposed a 200km no-fly zone around its airports. In Krasnodar in the south, an oil depot went up in flames. Drones reached Belgorod and Bryansk regions, which share a border with Ukraine. One even came close to Moscow—downed after reportedly clipping trees less than 100km from the capital. The incursion was not the first time that Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) had found a way past Russian defences, but it was the first concerted attack of its kind. It had many Ukrainians wondering if they had found a key to overturning Russia’s long-range strike advantage—even in the absence of long-range Western munitions like ATACMS missiles, which may never come.

 

[Sword 1944]

One always wonders if people are lying or whether sincerely propagandized.

I think it's both.

 

[Sword 1944]

One always wonders if people are lying or whether sincerely propagandized.

I never purported to "be on the Left." And the US did not overthrow an elected government.



That's a lie and you know it. The US would never invade Mexico and seize the country just because Russia supported a coup against an illegitimate government in Mexico City.



And I'm saying the sole reason behind Russia's invasion is imperialist military expansion. It has NOTHING to do with self-defense or some imaginary threat posed by NATO. Putin has wanted Ukraine since the Cold War, and he is willing to murder thousands of Russians and Ukrainians to get it.



The US is not invading anyone and has not seized territory by force for more than 100 years. And NATO is a voluntary organization. Russia is giving Ukraine no choice in the matter.

Of course they would invade Mexico, when the Warsaw pact was still there if they had rocked up on the border along the Rio Grand with missiles etc,are you telling me the US would have done nothing?

 

[Jredbaron96]

Well you can deny it but the Americans are running the show in Ukraine,that transvestite coke head Zelensky is just a puppet.

Man I can't imagine why no one takes your arguments seriously.

 

[snakestretcher]

It was apparently a big firecracker, carried by a kid's drone.

That's what it looked like, anyway.

I commented earlier that it looked like a 'flash bang'. And right on the dome of Fortress Kremlin where it would be most obvious? The entire episode stinks of false flag.

 

[snakestretcher]

Which US president was murdered by the US deepstate?

You're attempting to get a sensible response from a conspiracy theorist. Futile.

 

[snakestretcher]

First of all, the US war in Iraq was illegal, based on fraud, wasn't it? WMD? Links to Al Qaeta?

Libya - illegal war.

Syria - illegal war.




The coup in 2014 in Ukraine overturned an elected government. You are now arguing that if the US thinks that the elected government in another country is not legitimate, that the US has a right to overthrow it in a coup? That is what you - purporting to be on the Left -- are advocating?


The bottom line is, if Russia supported a coup in Mexico City, our Marines would be in the Halls of Montezuma quicker than you can say Jack Robinson. And, you know it. The US would do that because it is a security issue for the US - we would not allow our enemies to be on our border like that.

I am not saying Russia is "right" to invade Ukraine. What I am saying is that there is reason behind it. There is a security interest, and the war could have been avoided altogether if the US/NATO had recognized that and negotiated accordingly. The people that are paying for this whole situation are the citizens of Ukraine. They are dying by the thousands, and their country has been wrecked. It was all unnecessary.

Wow. Just.... wow.... what is the US's goal in invading countries all over the world, maintaining hundreds of military bases, assimilating country after country into NATO?

Well you sure have learned the neocon line.

What "security interest"? Did Ukraine threaten Russia before Putin decided to invade a sovereign state? Putin has made no secret of the fact that he yearns for a return to a 'Greater Russia' by subsuming former Soviet states.
Here's Putin's attempt at justifying his aggression.

Article by Vladimir Putin ”On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians“

en.kremlin.ru

Ukraine invasion: how Vladimir Putin built his career on waging war

The Russian president’s career is steeped in blood. But the invasion of Ukraine is more ambitious, and risky, than anything the Russian president has attempted before

www.theguardian.com

 

[snakestretcher]

When you say Ukraines work, yes but they can't do anything without a ok from their handlers in Nato, already one Russian MP has called for the total destruction of the Kiev Regime,it's a terrorist rogue State, also Zelensky said today Ukraine is already a de facto member of Nato, some of us have been saying that for a long time.

Of course, comrade Sword

Zelensky concedes Ukraine will not join Nato

‘It’s a truth and it must be recognised,’ says Ukrainian leader

www.independent.co.uk

You think Zelensky is dumb enough to give Putin the green light to attack a 'NATO' nation, with the resulting nuclear carnage Putin already threatened?

 

[CaughtInThe]

I mean, if you can't trust the Russians who can you trust?

 

[Ambig]

Ukraine is betting on drones to strike deep into Russia

With the West dithering about long-range munitions, drones offer an alternative

www.economist.com

February 28th the skies above Russia buzzed with the sound of hostile drones. St Petersburg, the country’s second city, imposed a 200km no-fly zone around its airports. In Krasnodar in the south, an oil depot went up in flames. Drones reached Belgorod and Bryansk regions, which share a border with Ukraine. One even came close to Moscow—downed after reportedly clipping trees less than 100km from the capital. The incursion was not the first time that Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) had found a way past Russian defences, but it was the first concerted attack of its kind. It had many Ukrainians wondering if they had found a key to overturning Russia’s long-range strike advantage—even in the absence of long-range Western munitions like ATACMS missiles, which may never come.

Paywalled.

 

[anatta]

Paywalled.

so what? you asked for evidence Uk was sending wave of drones. I gave it to you and you can read that much

 

[Ambig]

so what? you asked for evidence Uk was sending wave of drones. I gave it to you and you can read that much

I don't take my truth from the opening words of an article. If I read, I read the whole thing.

 

[D_NATURED]

Of course he did LOL! you just don't get it, Putin is very popular in Russia and there is nothing you can do about it other than go hysterical, you should be more worried about Loco Joe in your country who can't go out for a loaf of bread without a minder.

Someone needs to "mind" rapey Don when he goes out. You know, so nobody has to get their ***** grabbed by a narcissistic parade float who has spent decades running around acting like a chimp on viagra.

How the hell is mcfatty not already in prison?

 

[snakestretcher]

so what? you asked for evidence Uk was sending wave of drones. I gave it to you and you can read that much

A newspaper article is not evidence of a damn thing.

 

[anatta]

I don't take my truth from the opening words of an article. If I read, I read the whole thing.

oh well. not my problem

 

[anatta]

A newspaper article is not evidence of a damn thing.

oh well. not my problem

 

[snakestretcher]

oh well. not my problem

It absolutely is a problem if you accept anything published as gospel without investigating further than screeching headlines.

 

[anatta]

It absolutely is a problem if you accept anything published as gospel without investigating further than screeching headlines.

it's n ot a screeching headline, it gives details. It also draws inference that drones are the new way to strike into Russian territory.
We have reports from Russia taking down drones -not just missiles but drones. Ukraine started using left over Soviet drones
back in Dec ( earliest article i can find) that got hundreds of miles into Russian territory - more evidence -but February as the article states was the first time Uk used "waves of drones" to attack
We have drones in the Black Sea. There is absolutely evidnce Ukraine is now using more drones. I dont know what the US is giving them

 

[Sword 1944]

Of course, comrade Sword

Zelensky concedes Ukraine will not join Nato

‘It’s a truth and it must be recognised,’ says Ukrainian leader

www.independent.co.uk

You think Zelensky is dumb enough to give Putin the green light to attack a 'NATO' nation, with the resulting nuclear carnage Putin already threatened?

Putin has not threatened nuclear carnage, Herr Snakestretcher.