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What do you propose to “offer” “him?”there's a certain culture, i hear, in the russian elite that those who lose wars do not survive long
Knowing this, he personally, has nothing to lose, and may go "all in" as it were, to destroy ukraine totally...or, potentially worse.
We need to offer this guy an offramp. We need to be able to "give him" something to claim victory at home, or else, a WHOLE lot of people are going to die.
do you think that Nickolas II, the Bolsheviks etc didn´t know it ?Knowing this
The czars didn't have nukes. Putin does. That's the difference.do you think that Nickolas II, the Bolsheviks etc didn´t know it ?
We have to find out what, exactly, sparked the war for him. Is it just ukraine's neutrality? Was it the killings in donbass that drew him in? Whichever it is, he can have that one thing.What do you propose to “offer” “him?”
“Peace in our time?” You don’t need the meme, right?We have to find out what, exactly, sparked the war for him. Is it just ukraine's neutrality? Was it the killings in donbass that drew him in? Whichever it is, he can have that one thing.
or just have him list 3 demands, choose one that affects us the least, and give it to him.
Memes are great when we're talking about some middle eastern dictatorship that we can just bomb out of existence in a matter of hours.“Peace in our time?” You don’t need the meme, right?
your fav Bolsheviks did have them , a lot. how it helped them ?czars didn't have nukes.
ivan you are drunk again, by the way the next station for you is the Hague !killings in donbass
considering it stopped any invasion of the soviet states...pretty good i'd say.your fav Bolsheviks did have them , a lot. how it helped them ?
what's the relevance here?Moscow military a 'bit more of a paper tiger' than thought: former Canadian special forces officer
ok, now you're just rambling. You want to have a war with a nuclear power, have at it. Your cities...your centers of power...are the ones in danger there. Not my little house in the middle of nowhere. So go ahead, I encourage you....no, insist! that you escalate a nuclear war with russia. I think a couple of nukes will clear A LOT of weak people from the herd.We.ru can do what ever you want, still you are with out chances against us, you lost this war already ivan
its pre- war statistic
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Ukranian neutrality has been offered, and is on the table. This is a big concession for Ukraine, something has to give. Putin now knows he is a suspected international war criminal, there is no going back to geopolitics as usual. How do we sooth the Russian beasts ego as a way out?there's a certain culture, i hear, in the russian elite that those who lose wars do not survive long
Knowing this, he personally, has nothing to lose, and may go "all in" as it were, to destroy ukraine totally...or, potentially worse.
We need to offer this guy an offramp. We need to be able to "give him" something to claim victory at home, or else, a WHOLE lot of people are going to die.
Zelensky has refused any real offer. He thinks putin is a dumb, and verbal words are enough of an "offer". No. Neutrality will have to be written in the ukrainian constitution.Ukranian neutrality has been offered, and is on the table.
it's worse than that for him. He will likely be assassinated if he DOESN'T win so....you understand why all weapons are all on the table for him. Let's avoid more death and get this guy an offramp.This is a big concession for Ukraine, something has to give. Putin now knows he is a suspected international war criminal, there is no going back to geopolitics as usual. How do we sooth the Russian beasts ego as a way out?
Except not. Vietnam was never in the US's backyard, and there wasn't a lot of public support for it.Getting in is easy, getting out is the difficult part. Nixon faced the same dilemma, peace with honor.
nobody cares what you a war - criminal ivan think or want, dont worry we find you and bring in the Hague one way or anotherYou want
...speak english?nobody cares what you a war - criminal ivan think or want, dont worry we find you and bring in the Hague one way or another
...speak english?
Ok ComradeZelensky has refused any real offer. He thinks putin is a dumb, and verbal words are enough of an "offer". No. Neutrality will have to be written in the ukrainian constitution.
it's worse than that for him. He will likely be assassinated if he DOESN'T win so....you understand why all weapons are all on the table for him. Let's avoid more death and get this guy an offramp.
Except not. Vietnam was never in the US's backyard, and there wasn't a lot of public support for it.
Russia, on the other hand....this is right at their doorstep, and is existential for them. Their own people support Putin in this matter.
if you desire to WIN...to the last ukrainian man...then let's keep going.
But if you desire to save potentially hundreds of thousands/millions of ukrainians, then a constitutional provision for neutrality is hardly a bad deal, and zelensky refuses.
so you are against neutrality? Just too big of an ask for you?Ok Comrade
Which part of the Evil Empire you write this post from?
Enjoy your economic depression, maybe Vlad will spend some of that 40 billion he has stolen, feed the hungry Russian children in the very near fututel.
Why you ask me, go ask your boy Putinso you are against neutrality? Just too big of an ask for you?
all I'm saying is there should be peace before more people die.Why you ask me, go ask your boy Putin
He is the getting his arse kicked
SAVUSHKINA 55Ok Comrade
Which part of the Evil Empire you write this post from?
Enjoy your economic depression, maybe Vlad will spend some of that 40 billion he has stolen, feed the hungry Russian children coming to a a russian City near you.
And no, Putin gets no easy way out after his troops committed war crimes. Russians never change they luv the whip, to receive and give out.
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