Oh? Care to cite the regulation that forbids such actions?
How much you wanna bet that you can't?
AND. regulation forbidding such actions, or not, I'll bet that it's not a courts martial offense.
Let's discuss it in the thread concerning the actual killings. How's that sound? Rather than further demonizing American service members.
You really think it's completely legal for soldiers to take photos of dead bodies in the military and trade them??
Where did I demonsize service members? Some of my family members are service members, so you're being a total hack and making assumptions.
and some still wonder why we have the reputation overseas as the Ugly American?
thank you for illustrating the concept perfectly.
You started this thread; didn't you?
You're being completely unreasonable.. I didn't dishonor the troops, these men in uniform did.
If that were the case, you would restrict your posts to the thread actually about the killings, vice the thread about the taking of body parts as trophies.
Granted, I've been out of the service for 10 years, but I don't recall that regulation. Even if such a regulation exists, it probably isn't a court martial offense.
:roll:And, you're taking advantage of it, to do the same.
I'm not saying that is it. I'm challenging you to show me where it isn't. Can you?
If you can, I'll recant. If you can't, then well...you know...
:roll:
I am trying to understand and discuss what happened to these kids and how it happened... read my OP. I was asking for opinions, not making accusations.
It's in the rolling stone article and it's nearly 8 pages long...
This is what I could find: Army General Order 1B (I'm not sure of the Corps has similar regs, but it's likely)
http://www.tac.usace.army.mil/deploymentcenter/tac_docs/GO-1B%20Policy.pdf
Edit: It is a CentCom DOD directive, not just Army.
I don't know if it's your cocked up link, or the **** that my ol' lady down loaded on my wagon, but I can't open that. Care to c/p a little something for us?
Individual War Souvenirs may only be acquired if specifically authorized by USCENTCOM. Absent such express authorization, no weapon, munitions, or military article of equipment obtained or acquired by any means other than official issue may be retained for personal use or shipped out of the USCENTCOM AOR for personal retention.
But, can you show me? Sorry, but an article from ****ing Rolling Stone isn't going to convince me.
GUIDE NOTE: The below story is from the Marine Corps News Service, but War Trophy Guidance is derived from DOD Directives and apply to all of the services.
Some war trophies are downright sadistic - for example, enemy teeth or body parts. Needless to say, they're banned by military law.
I'll have to type it out:
Individual War Souvenirs may only be acquired if specifically authorized by USCENTCOM.
Human remains fall under war trophy/souvenirs.
War Trophies
You really think taking photos of dead bodies and human remains is acceptable by law??? The military confiscated the photos before it was a murder investigation, and before they knew the people were murdered.
They had a video clip called "motorcycle kill" and they claimed they were killing members of the Taliban. It didn't matter if the were Taliban or not, the military took the videos and photos and told them to stop trading them...
So, to prove me wrong, you're going to post a link to a Rolling Stone article? :lamo
Ohhhhh, I see! That regulation. Ok, well, that regulation pertains to, "souvenirs", that are being sent home and not specifically to souvenirs that are taken, then left in country. Wanna try again, to show us where the taking of souvenirs is illegal?
It details the laws they broke and quotes members of the military...
Care to show me the text from an actual regulation that proves that the taking of body parts as trophies and are left in country upon DEROS is illegal? Or, are you just going to keep spouting crap?
BTW, do you even know what DEROS stands for? Without googling it, I mean. Prolly not, huh?
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