Kill Jews, Get Your Own State

[H. E. Panqui]

Hamas governs Gaza.

^^^

 

[Fledermaus]

Acknowledge it's an occupation first. That question came first.

Egypt blockades Gaza. Ergo Egypt occupies Gaza.

Right?

Why is the blockade in place?

 

[Fledermaus]

^^^

Your intentional ignorance is noted.

In Gaza, Hamas has been the de facto governing authority since 2007 when it took control after defeating rival faction Fatah in elections and subsequent clashes.

 

[H. E. Panqui]

Your intentional ignorance is noted.

In Gaza, Hamas has been the de facto governing authority since 2007 when it took control after defeating rival faction Fatah in elections and subsequent clashes.

^^^

The Palestinians have been 'living' in an open-air prison for years... get knowledge...turn off the murderous retards on the neocon boob tube...

"After reaching an agreement with President Trump, David Ellison—the son of the second-richest man in the world, Larry Ellison—has acquired Paramount Global, the media giant that owns CBS News.

Larry Ellison, the largest private funder of the Israel Defense Forces, is deeply tied to the Israeli national security state and counts Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu among his closest friends.

David has already announced significant changes at CBS, promising “unbiased” news coverage and “varied ideological perspectives,” which are widely understood to signal a shift toward right-wing, pro-Trump coverage. Worse still, Bari Weiss, a journalist with a long history of zealous pro-Israel advocacy, is being considered as the network’s new ombudsman, shaping its political direction, precisely because of her “pro-Israel stance...”

MintPress News

Fierce, Adversarial Journalism

www.mintpressnews.com

 

[Fledermaus]

^^^

The Palestinians have been 'living' in an open-air prison for years... get knowledge...turn off the murderously retarded neocon boob tube...

"After reaching an agreement with President Trump, David Ellison—the son of the second-richest man in the world, Larry Ellison—has acquired Paramount Global, the media giant that owns CBS News.

Larry Ellison, the largest private funder of the Israel Defense Forces, is deeply tied to the Israeli national security state and counts Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu among his closest friends.

David has already announced significant changes at CBS, promising “unbiased” news coverage and “varied ideological perspectives,” which are widely understood to signal a shift toward right-wing, pro-Trump coverage. Worse still, Bari Weiss, a journalist with a long history of zealous pro-Israel advocacy, is being considered as the network’s new ombudsman, shaping its political direction, precisely because of her “pro-Israel stance...”

MintPress News

Fierce, Adversarial Journalism

www.mintpressnews.com

None of that changes the fact Hamas was voted into power and has been the de facto governing authority since 2007.

 

[H. E. Panqui]

None of that changes the fact Hamas was voted into power and has been the de facto governing authority since 2007.

^^^

The murderous Zionists have been 'the de facto rulers' for years... get knowledge...

[apparently 'de facto' and 'de jure' are difficult concepts for some]

 

[Gardener]

It’s difficult dealing with people who don’t have a clue that Hamas and Palestinians aren’t interchangeable words. Republicans seem to have the same problem with communism and socialism. You can’t fix stupidity like that.

You know absolutely nothing about the attitudes and beliefs of these "Palestinians". They are the complete antithesis of a liberal society.

All you know is that you are required to support them as a product of your fundamentalist views.

 

[Fledermaus]

^^^

The murderous Zionists have been 'the de facto rulers' for years... get knowledge...

[apparently 'de facto' and 'de jure' are difficult concepts for some]

Hamas was voted into power and has been the de facto governing authority since 2007.

 

[Gardener]

None of that changes the fact Hamas was voted into power and has been the de facto governing authority since 2007.

Not to mention the fact that all Jews were cleansed from Gaza, and this despite the fact that there are archaeological Jewish settlements there predating the Warlord's invention of Islam by hundreds of years and the invention of "Palestinians" by a couple of thousand.

When it comes to indigenous peoples, all bets are off when it comes to Jews in the world of leftist antisemites.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

Hamas governs Gaza.

Really? I believe that’s news to Israel, who decides who goes in and out, when the water runs and the lights work, etc.

I’m not saying that’s right. I’m saying there is this thing called reality…

It has this nasty habit of insisting it be dealt with on its terms.

 

[H. E. Panqui]

Hamas ... has been the de facto governing authority since 2007.

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[H. E. Panqui]

More enlightened, intelligent American Patriots!!! less murderously retarded neocons...ugh...

"...So likewise, a passionate attachment of one Nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favourite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest, in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels & Wars of the latter, without adequate inducement or justification: It leads also to concessions to the favourite Nation of priviledges denied to others, which is apt doubly to injure the Nation making the concessions—by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained—& by exciting jealousy, ill will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom eql priviledges are withheld: And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favourite Nation) facility to betray, or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption or infatuation.

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent Patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public Councils! Such an attachment of a small or weak, towards a great & powerful Nation, dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me fellow citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake; since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of Republican Government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defence against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another, cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real Patriots, who may resist the intrigues of the favourite, are liable to become suspected and odious; while its tools and dupes usurp the applause & confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign Nations is in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements let them be fulfilled with20 perfect good faith. Here let us stop...."

Founders Online: Farewell Address, 19 September 1796

Farewell Address, 19 September 1796

founders.archives.gov

 

[H. E. Panqui]

Not to mention the fact that all Jews were cleansed from Gaza, and this despite the fact that there are archaeological Jewish settlements there predating the Warlord's invention of Islam by hundreds of years and the invention of "Palestinians" by a couple of thousand.

When it comes to indigenous peoples, all bets are off when it comes to Jews in the world of leftist antisemites.

^^^

I believe you'll find that many of the/?your crazed, racist, murderous IZraeli land thieves descend fairly recently from Central Europe... ugh...

 

[TangoNoCash]

You know absolutely nothing about the attitudes and beliefs of these "Palestinians". They are the complete antithesis of a liberal society.

All you know is that you are required to support them as a product of your fundamentalist views.

I know Israel is actively murdering children and committing war crimes. There is no high road for you. You’ve accepted Israel’s propaganda. Take a look at Gaza sometime. The devastation Israel has inflicted is heartbreaking. Hamas is just the excuse. You’ve bought it hook, line and sinker.

 

[markdc]

I side on American and allies being the good guys.

I agree that the Americans, the British, and the French, for all their faults, were the good guys. The Soviets were just as evil as the Nazis and more evil than the Italian Fascists. They certainly killed far more people than the Nazis and Fascists put together.

Mark

 

[Toggle Almendro]

Huh?

You were condemning Jews for merely defending themselves.

I was pointing out that you are wrong to condemn Jews for merely defending themselves.

 

[H. E. Panqui]

I agree that the Americans, the British, and the French, for all their faults, were the good guys. The Soviets were just as evil as the Nazis and more evil than the Italian Fascists. They certainly killed far more people than the Nazis and Fascists put together.

Mark

Of course Americans have been inundated with murderously retarded neocon propaganda our whole lives...

 

[H. E. Panqui]

You were condemning Jews for merely defending themselves.

I was pointing out that you are wrong to condemn Jews for merely defending themselves.

'Defending themselves'... ^^^

 

[TangoNoCash]

Depends on who you ask, Germans or American. Maybe more than just Americans.
Much of the world fought against Germany.
So more would likely say the Germans were the bad guys. But Germans and those in their corner would say Americans were the bad guys.
I side on American and allies being the good guys.

Israel as a State didn't exist in WW2. No one wanted the displaced Jews after WW2, so Britain decided to take away Palestinian land. And the Jews have been taking more and more since then.

As for the Area of Israel, jews and palestinians have occupied that area for almost 2000 yrs in relative peace.
Something changed after WW2. 1948 more specifically that stirred the pot. And has been in contention and wars since that time.

Sadly we are not the good guys in this situation. Our tax dollars and weapons are being used to genocide a people while we pretend to look away. The US could halt the situation by simply saying enough. We choose not to.

 

[markdc]

Of course Americans have been inundated with murderously retarded neocon propaganda our whole lives...

You don't need remind me of that. I loathe NeoCon warmongers. Have for many years.

Mark

 

[Toggle Almendro]

I know Israel is actively murdering children and committing war crimes.

Fake news. Never happened.

There is no high road for you.

Sure there is. We can support Israel.

You’ve accepted Israel’s propaganda.

Israel tells the truth.

Take a look at Gaza sometime. The devastation Israel has inflicted is heartbreaking.

And yet it seems that the Palestinians still haven't learned their lesson yet.

Hamas is just the excuse. You’ve bought it hook, line and sinker.

Self defense is more than an excuse.

Sadly we are not the good guys in this situation.

Yes we are.

Our tax dollars and weapons are being used to genocide a people while we pretend to look away.

Lying about Jews and falsely accusing them of committing genocide is disgusting.

The US could halt the situation by simply saying enough. We choose not to.

Of course. We are the good guys after all.

 

[markdc]

Israel tells the truth.

If the Israeli government tells the truth, then it’s the first government in human history to do so.

Mark

 

[TangoNoCash]

Fake news. Never happened.



Sure there is. We can support Israel.



Israel tells the truth.



And yet it seems that the Palestinians still haven't learned their lesson yet.



Self defense is more than an excuse.

So more lies. Got it. The truth is out there if you want it and it’s not the lies Israel claims. It’s a choice to remain willfully ignorant of the atrocities.

 

[Toggle Almendro]

Look at the closed loop of oppression right-wing genocide apologist freaks have created:

Lying about Jews and falsely accusing them of committing genocide is disgusting.

- Palestinians cannot have a state.

Fake news. Never happened.

The Palestinians were offered a state. All they had to do was agree to peace with Israel.

The Palestinians decided that they would rather rape and murder people.

- Hamas emerges as a natural function of Palestinians not having a state (and is propped up by Israel).

More fake news. Still never happened.

After the Palestinians refused to agree to peace, some people said that the Palestinians would become peaceful if Israel just pulled back and left them to govern themselves.

Israel pulled out of Gaza to see if that would work.

It didn't work. When left to themselves, Palestinians actually become even more murderous.

- We can't give Palestinians the right to self-determination because of Hamas.

No. We can't give Palestinians the right of determination because the only thing that they will do with it is rape and murder people.

- Hamas is illegitimate because Palestinians don't have a state (therefore making Hamas a 'terrorist' group).

No. Hamas is both illegitimate and a terrorist group because they rape and murder people.

- Therefore, Palestinians cannot have a state.

Palestinians cannot have a state because they will only use it to rape and murder people.

How do you guys sleep at night?

Quite soundly. It's nice being one of the good guys.

 

[Toggle Almendro]

So more lies. Got it. The truth is out there if you want it and it’s not the lies Israel claims. It’s a choice to remain willfully ignorant of the atrocities.

The lies are the horrific false accusations that Jews are committing genocide.