Kerry Vows to Disprove Swift Boat Claims

[ReverendHellh0und]

So then is Clinton an unconvicted rapist? :lol:

Well Iriemon?

 

[Iriemon]

So then is Clinton an unconvicted rapist? :lol:

According to Pride.

 

[DeeJayH]

Deejay you really need t drop the Conservative slant you say you are........Your far more left on most issues.........

I am sure most everybody appears that way to someone as Uber-Right as you are
no offense taken, or intended

 

[Stinger]

Bush was convicted of rape? Link please.:mrgreen:

My unconvicted rapist friend, I will not let this go.:2wave:

Who accused Bush of raping anyone or who accused NP. I think it was understood that an accusation was involved, it didn't go over my head did it yours?

 

[Doremus Jessup]

Back at Yale, I wonder which one of them won the naked wrestling match in front of Geronimo's skull.

What I find incredibly funny about this thread is that you guys are giving your best to defend some f@ckers that don't give two sh!ts about any of you.:doh

 

[Stinger]

cocaine snorking drunkard admitted it himself

And so was Obama. Admitted it himself.

MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) - Presidential hopeful Barack Obama on Tuesday told high school students that when he was their age he was hardly a model student, experimenting with illegal drugs and drinking alcohol. Obama stopped by a study hall at Manchester Central High School and answered students' questions about the war in Iraq and his education plan. But when an adult asked about his time as a student, Obama spoke bluntly.
"I will confess to you that I was kind of a goof-off in high school as my mom reminded me," said Obama, an Illinois Democrat who grew up in Hawaii
"You know, I made some bad decisions that I've actually written about. You know, got into drinking. I experimented with drugs," he said. "There was a whole stretch of time that I didn't really apply myself a lot. It wasn't until I got out of high school and went to college that I started realizing, 'Man, I wasted a lot of time.'"

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8T1IPAG0&show_article=1



Why haven't I seen you mention that too?

 

[Doremus Jessup]

While there has yet to be a conviction, there is at least one woman that W has had his way with:

 

[Stinger]

While there has yet to be a conviction, there is at least one woman that W has had his way with:

A rape? Who and what evidence did she present?

 

[Navy Pride]

Would you say that he is an unconvicted traitor? So are you.:mrgreen:

You do know that it is against the rules of the forum to insult or call other members names don't you?

 

[Navy Pride]

Did he admit to the cocain thing?

Nope he ignored it because it was a lie.....

 

[Navy Pride]

[Hey everybody! Let's watch the Pride cut-n-run prance agains!]

I say your lying. Prove your statment that Kerry insulted every vet that served in Vietnam.

[Predicted dodge: I don't have to prove anything to you. You've been shown it before. Look it up yourself. Or the vanishing act.]

Its been proven a 1000 times in his testimony he told outrageous lies about Viet Nam vets in front of a congressional committe in 1971....Why do you think most Vietnam Vets hate his traitorous guts?

 

[Navy Pride]

I am sure most everybody appears that way to someone as Uber-Right as you are
no offense taken, or intended

same here but not everybody....You got me pegged though....No sympathy for the far left like some....

 

[DeeJayH]

And so was Obama. Admitted it himself.

MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) - Presidential hopeful Barack Obama on Tuesday told high school students that when he was their age he was hardly a model student, experimenting with illegal drugs and drinking alcohol. Obama stopped by a study hall at Manchester Central High School and answered students' questions about the war in Iraq and his education plan. But when an adult asked about his time as a student, Obama spoke bluntly.
"I will confess to you that I was kind of a goof-off in high school as my mom reminded me," said Obama, an Illinois Democrat who grew up in Hawaii
"You know, I made some bad decisions that I've actually written about. You know, got into drinking. I experimented with drugs," he said. "There was a whole stretch of time that I didn't really apply myself a lot. It wasn't until I got out of high school and went to college that I started realizing, 'Man, I wasted a lot of time.'"

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8T1IPAG0&show_article=1



Why haven't I seen you mention that too?

cause i dont care enough about either :shrug:

 

[Iriemon]

You do know that it is against the rules of the forum to insult or call other members names don't you?

LMAO! That didn't take long.

Quit using the left wing blogs as your evidence.........They just make you look more foolish then you usually do....

 

[Iriemon]

Originally Posted by Iriemon
[Hey everybody! Let's watch the Pride cut-n-run prance agains!]

I say your lying. Prove your statment that Kerry insulted every vet that served in Vietnam.

[Predicted dodge: ... You've been shown it before. ....]

Its been proven a 1000 times in his testimony he told outrageous lies about Viet Nam vets in front of a congressional committe in 1971....

Same old NP.

 

[Navy Pride]

LMAO! That didn't take long.

That is not name calling...that is just stating a fact..You post from your left wing blogs and you think that makes you creditable when in fact it just make you look foolish.......

 

[Navy Pride]

Originally Posted by Iriemon
[Hey everybody! Let's watch the Pride cut-n-run prance agains!]

I say your lying. Prove your statment that Kerry insulted every vet that served in Vietnam.

[Predicted dodge: ... You've been shown it before. ....]



Same old NP.

Come on during the 2004 elections the video of Kerry in his fatigues in from of that committee was played many times here........It won't go awayno matter how much you try and deny it......

 

[BWG]

Stinger, why don't you provide me with evidence that George Bush had active duty during those two years. I want proof. Thank you.

aps, he was NEVER on active duty that the general public thinks of when you say 'active duty', anyone that tries to tell you different are either ignorant of the matter or using semantics to BS you.

Air National Guard members are considered 'guardsmen on active duty' while receiving pilot training. They are not, however, counted as members of the overall active-duty Air Force.

Air National Guard is always considered a guardsmen and not a member of the active-duty Air Force. A National Guard member may be called to active duty for pilot training or another temporary assignment and receive active-duty pay at the time, but they remain Guard members.

One cannot simply transfer between the National Guard and/or Reserve Forces to active duty. One must first get an approved "conditional release," which is basically a form that says if you are accepted for active duty, the Guard/Reserves agree to release you from the remainder of your commitment.

For example, when I went through tech school in the Air Force, we had a guy from the Colorado Air National Guard going to the school at the same time. He did everything and was treated just like the rest of us, class, drills, inspections, parades, etc. The difference was, at the end of school he went home to Colorado, I went to Thailand, my best buddy, during this time, went to Vietnam and the rest went to other bases.

 

[Stinger]

aps, he was NEVER on active duty that the general public thinks of when you say 'active duty', anyone that tries to tell you different are either ignorant of the matter or using semantics to BS you.

Air National Guard members are considered 'guardsmen on active duty' while receiving pilot training. They are not, however, counted as members of the overall active-duty Air Force.

Air National Guard is always considered a guardsmen and not a member of the active-duty Air Force. A National Guard member may be called to active duty for pilot training or another temporary assignment and receive active-duty pay at the time, but they remain Guard members.

One cannot simply transfer between the National Guard and/or Reserve Forces to active duty. One must first get an approved "conditional release," which is basically a form that says if you are accepted for active duty, the Guard/Reserves agree to release you from the remainder of your commitment.

For example, when I went through tech school in the Air Force, we had a guy from the Colorado Air National Guard going to the school at the same time. He did everything and was treated just like the rest of us, class, drills, inspections, parades, etc. The difference was, at the end of school he went home to Colorado, I went to Thailand, my best buddy, during this time, went to Vietnam and the rest went to other bases.

"Bush joined in May 1968. He went through six weeks of basic training — a full-time job — at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Tex. Then he underwent 53 weeks of flight training — again, full time — at Moody Air Force Base in Valdosta, Ga. Then he underwent 21 weeks of fighter interceptor training — full time — at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston. Counting other, shorter, postings in between, by the end of his training period Bush had served two years on active duty."

He was on ACTIVE DUTY for TWO YEARS as his enlistment required. You can try to spin it all you want, he WAS ACTIVE DUTY FOR TWO YEARS. Once his training was up he came off active duty and into the Guard. For anyone to say he was never active duty is for them to speak out of ignorance or use semantical BS.

 

[Doremus Jessup]

A rape? Who and what evidence did she present?

The Patriot Act
The Military Commissions Act
Signing statements
"Free Speech Zones"
John Ashcroft
Alberto Gonzales
...

 

[Donc]

He, he T-Bone better cough up 1 mill or look like Sxxx.I like that part about "All hat, no cattle":mrgreen:

Dear Mr. Pickens,

Thank you for your response to my acceptance of your challenge.

I’m grateful that you are prepared to make good on your word and fulfill the offer you made publicly at the American Spectator Dinner in Washington, D.C. on November 6th.

I must remind you, however, that this was and is your “challenge,” not mine. You are, after all, the one who said explicitly at the dinner — in a way that was calculated to challenge any naysayer — that you would give one million dollars “to anyone who could show that anything the SBVT said was false.” (RedState.Com) These were your words — and nowhere did you ever suggest, as you are now trying to, that your challenge referred specifically and exclusively to any advertising by the SBVT.

As you know, the lies of the SBVT were not confined just to their ads; they were a constant barrage of television, radio, Internet, speeches, and forums in which — significantly bankrolled by you — they launched and repeated lie after lie. Your challenge expressly stood behind all of their allegations.

It is disturbing that in reaffirming the challenge you issued, your parsing and backtracking seems eerily reminiscent of the entire approach of the SBVT — say one thing, put out an allegation, then duck and weave, hedge and bob when your words catch up with you. I want to believe that this was not your intent because I am told that you are a man of your word, not “all hat and no cattle.”

Honor and duty, which you purport to defend, demand that you not selectively back away from your original challenge. Your offer clearly said — boldly, unequivocally — to an audience of your friends and supporters — that you would give “a million dollars to anyone who could prove wrong anything the Swiftboat Veterans charged about Kerry.” (AmericanThinker.com) In my letter, that is the offer which I accepted.

I was interested to read in your response that you don’t want to see the SBVT “maligned,” and that you aim “to prevent this important part of American history from being unfairly portrayed.” I accepted your offer precisely because I want to prevent the honorable records of the courageous men who served with me from being maligned by the repeated lies of this organization. I want to see the word “Swiftboat” restored to its original meaning — synonymous with honorable service to country, not political lies aimed to distort and divide. I would hope that your interests should also be in protecting the record of all those who served our country.

As I’ve said to you before, I am prepared to prove the lie and marshal all the evidence, the question is whether you are prepared to fulfill your obligation — no variations, no back pedaling, no retreat, no new bets, no changing the subject.

The only thing remaining now is to set the date for our meeting in an appropriate forum, after which I look forward to you keeping your word and writing a check for one million dollars payable to the Paralyzed Veterans of America so that we can put your money to good work for veterans who have returned home from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sincerely,

John F. Kerry
United States Senator


John Kerry For Senate :: Senator Kerry Responds to Pickens' Moving the Goalposts

 

[Stinger]

...

Cute but do you have anything of substance to say?

 

[Doremus Jessup]

Cute but do you have anything of substance to say?

Maybe you'll care about some of these things once Hilldawg is the boss.:roll:

 

[Navy Pride]

Bottom line Kerry is a fraud, from his "Reporting for duty" to his hunting, to his wind surfing..........The guy is a New England snob, a gigilo who made his money marrying rich women............

He was phoney in Vietnam as attested to by his fellow officers mostly democrats...........Even John Oneill is a democrat...........He should hae been charged with treason for his actions.........Why he wan't I will never know. He promised to release the information that detailed his awards but never did.......I wonder why..:roll:

It is a shame that he is the best that the democrats had to offer.........You sure can nominate some losers..........I would have love to voted for a Leiberman or a Bayh but sadly they had no chance to win the nomination...........Did you liberals ever wonder why you have only held the presidency for 12 years since 1968? Sad............

I only have more more thing to say.......

BRING IT ON KERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lerxst]

Bottom line Kerry is a fraud, from his "Reporting for duty" to his hunting, to his wind surfing..........The guy is a New England snob, a gigilo who made his money marrying rich women............

He was phoney in Vietnam as attested to by his fellow officers mostly democrats...........Even John Oneill is a democrat...........He should hae been charged with treason for his actions.........Why he wan't I will never know. He promised to release the information that detailed his awards but never did.......I wonder why..:roll:

It is a shame that he is the best that the democrats had to offer.........You sure can nominate some losers..........I would have love to voted for a Leiberman or a Bayh but sadly they had no chance to win the nomination...........Did you liberals ever wonder why you have only held the presidency for 12 years since 1968? Sad............

I only have more more thing to say.......

BRING IT ON KERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He wasn't charged because he didn't commit the crime you and the liars you idolize accuse him of. The man who put up the challenge will most likely never accept because old right wing extremists like yourself are a dying breed. Your hackery is fully exposed for all to see, and as such it is very easy to discern the hollow foundation of your arguments against good men. Men like the SBVFT raped this country of it's integrity more than any "draft dodging liberal hippy" or John Kerry ever did.

Stick with the lies and the partisan political hit jobs. It suits the right wing just fine. Your assertion about Kerry's trespasses against Vietnam vets being proven a thousand times is a blatant falsehood which you have never ever shed a single piece of definitive supporting evidence.

The problem with extremists is that they are extreme.