Kentucky GOP senators were wrong that state didn’t want Obamacare

[pbrauer]

Holy crap red state Kentucky is going wild for PPACA aka ObamaCare. From the brand new msnbc.com

The Republican senators from Kentucky, Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell, declared last week that their constituents didn’t want any part of the Affordable Care Act.


Paul and McConnell deemed Obamacare so onerous that it was worth shutting down the entire government in order to try to stop it.

“Obamacare might sell in New York, but Kentuckians aren’t buying it,” they wrote in an op-ed.

They were wrong.

Kentuckians are signing up in droves–at a rate of more than 1,000 people per day–in a state where more than half a million people have been uninsured.

In fact, support nationwide for Obamacare soared this week while the public abandoned the Republican Party in droves. An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll out Thursday showed that a mere 24% of Americans have a favorable opinion of the Republican Party–a historic low.

Kentuckian Deborah Wright struggled for 30 years to take care of herself without insurance. She avoided the doctor because she couldn’t afford the cost.

“Usually if I had to go I’d have to borrow the money,” she told MSNBC. “But most of the time I didn’t go.”

Once, a kidney stone landed her in the hospital and she needed surgery. It took her two years to pay back a lender.

On Wednesday, a week after the government shutdown as Congress battled over Obamacare, the health care law made it possible for Wright to enroll in Medicaid.

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Kentucky GOP senators were wrong that state didn't want Obamacare | MSNBC​

 

[trfjr]

Holy crap red state Kentucky is going wild for PPACA aka ObamaCare. From the brand new msnbc.com

The Republican senators from Kentucky, Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell, declared last week that their constituents didn’t want any part of the Affordable Care Act.


Paul and McConnell deemed Obamacare so onerous that it was worth shutting down the entire government in order to try to stop it.

“Obamacare might sell in New York, but Kentuckians aren’t buying it,” they wrote in an op-ed.

They were wrong.

Kentuckians are signing up in droves–at a rate of more than 1,000 people per day–in a state where more than half a million people have been uninsured.

In fact, support nationwide for Obamacare soared this week while the public abandoned the Republican Party in droves. An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll out Thursday showed that a mere 24% of Americans have a favorable opinion of the Republican Party–a historic low.

Kentuckian Deborah Wright struggled for 30 years to take care of herself without insurance. She avoided the doctor because she couldn’t afford the cost.

“Usually if I had to go I’d have to borrow the money,” she told MSNBC. “But most of the time I didn’t go.”

Once, a kidney stone landed her in the hospital and she needed surgery. It took her two years to pay back a lender.

On Wednesday, a week after the government shutdown as Congress battled over Obamacare, the health care law made it possible for Wright to enroll in Medicaid.

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Kentucky GOP senators were wrong that state didn't want Obamacare | MSNBC​

you do know the difference between signing up on the web site and actually enrolling into Obama care and getting insurance through the exchanges?
you do know you have to sign up on the web site to even be able to look at the cost?
so until you are able to give us actual Obama care enrollment numbers as in people purchasing insurance on the web site the article by MSNBC is doing nothing but trying to put lipstick on a pig and you are falling all over it like it is some kind of success.
it is like a store saying we had a good day we had hundreds walk by and looked into the widow

 

[Paschendale]

See, if you don't watch Fox News, you know that Americans generally supported healthcare reform as a general idea, and then wanted the public option, and now support most of the provisions contained within the ACA. Amusingly, "Obamacare" polls at about 20% less support than the ACA, despite them being the exact same thing. But contrary to the rhetoric from Bill O'Reilley, no one forced anything down anyone's throat. Contrary to what the right wing blogs say, Obamacare is not socialism. Contrary to what the Tea Party would have you believe, the ACA is not unpopular. And, interestingly enough, if you ask the people who are opposed to it for non partisan reasons (like all those small to medium size business owners), it is the parts of it that are distinctly UN-socialist that bother them, specifically the even stronger ties between employers and insurance.

Did I cover all the continually repeated (usually verbatim) talking points, or did I miss anything?

It comes as no surprise that out of touch Republican officials do not know or care what the people of their state actually want when they could instead play partisan politics and continue their party's stated platform of being unilaterally anti-Obama.

 

[Velvet Elvis]

See, if you don't watch Fox News, you know that Americans generally supported healthcare reform as a general idea.

That's funny...I didn't think Forbes was FoxNews.

...or ABC News.

...or National Review Online was FoxNews.

 

[trfjr]

See, if you don't watch Fox News, you know that Americans generally supported healthcare reform as a general idea, and then wanted the public option, and now support most of the provisions contained within the ACA. Amusingly, "Obamacare" polls at about 20% less support than the ACA, despite them being the exact same thing. But contrary to the rhetoric from Bill O'Reilley, no one forced anything down anyone's throat. Contrary to what the right wing blogs say, Obamacare is not socialism. Contrary to what the Tea Party would have you believe, the ACA is not unpopular. And, interestingly enough, if you ask the people who are opposed to it for non partisan reasons (like all those small to medium size business owners), it is the parts of it that are distinctly UN-socialist that bother them, specifically the even stronger ties between employers and insurance.

Did I cover all the continually repeated (usually verbatim) talking points, or did I miss anything?

It comes as no surprise that out of touch Republican officials do not know or care what the people of their state actually want when they could instead play partisan politics and continue their party's stated platform of being unilaterally anti-Obama.

Obama care is nothing but candy coated crap sure every ones likes the candy coating

 

[sangha]

you do know the difference between signing up on the web site and actually enrolling into Obama care and getting insurance through the exchanges?

Do you?

This past week, at least 8,500 in Kentucky signed up for the approximately 60 healthcare plans available on the state exchange; 240 small businesses had enrolled to give their staff healthcare through Obamacare; another 7000 applications have been started, but not yet submitted.

 

[Paschendale]

That's funny...I didn't think Forbes was FoxNews.

...or ABC News.

...or National Review Online was FoxNews.

We already covered this. "Obamacare" polls poorly, "Affordable Care Act" polls higher, and most of the specific provisions of the law poll even higher than that. Those polls show opposition to "Obamacare". It's easy to oppose a slogan or a derisive nickname. And the majority of respondents say that they don't know what the law contains. Once they actually find out, they usually support it.

 

[trfjr]

Do you?

yes as your quote said signed up not purchased or enrolled

 

[sangha]

yes as your quote said signed up not purchased or enrolled

I was hoping you'd use that dishonest dodge

The state’s healthcare exchange, Kynect, has “enrolled [Kentuckians] in new insurance plans at a rate of about 1,000 Kentuckians a day,” Beshear continued. “The rush of our families and small businesses to enroll in Kynect demonstrates how enthusiastic Kentuckians are about obtaining affordable health coverage.”

“The response has shocked us,” Fleming said. “We think it’s due to a lot of word of mouth…I had a single dad who worked all his life in coal mines and just got laid off and didn’t know how he was going to get insurance. We signed him up on Medicaid.He has three kids.”

 

[Velvet Elvis]

We already covered this. "Obamacare" polls poorly, "Affordable Care Act" polls higher, and most of the specific provisions of the law poll even higher than that. Those polls show opposition to "Obamacare".

I guess you really can put lipstick on a pig then.