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Since he didn't come forward until the next day, we'll never know with complete certainty. He did admit to drinking several rum and cokes before driving and a sheriff deputy that saw him said he looked disoriented.Kennedy said he was not drunk in his speech. I don't know if that is true or not, and I haven't seen evidence either way.
shuamort said:Gotcha, no proof. Movin' on.
aps said:Kennedy said he was not drunk in his speech. I don't know if that is true or not, and I haven't seen evidence either way.
aps said:Navy Pride, I have gone back and forth with KC and Deegan on this. I understand why people cannot stand Kennedy, so I hear what you're saying, bad boy.
Calm2Chaos said:That or people are just suckered by the name.......
The whole clan is a little wrong as far as i'm concerned. I hate it when they call them american royalty. If royalty is rum running whoremongers womanizers drunken killing rapist then maybe the title fits
alphieb said:Everbody has skeletons in their closets. The Kennedy's are just highly publized because of who they are.
That's it. I've had enough of this from you, Navy Pride. You have something interesting to say? Say it. This blaming the liberals for everything that you disagree with is lame, retarded, hackneyed and over. KNOCK IT OFF.Navy Pride said:Whatever, typical liberal reaction to the facts, bury your head in the sand and deny it happened........:roll:
shuamort said:That's it. I've had enough of this from you, Navy Pride. You have something interesting to say? Say it. This blaming the liberals for everything that you disagree with is lame, retarded, hackneyed and over. KNOCK IT OFF.
Thank you aps. I admire you for posting this.shuamort, is this really a big deal? It's no different than what we get from others--ptsdkid and the like. I don't want to butt in here, but we all get annoyed by how the people on the opposite side are very quick to ignore negative facts about their own party. I will say no more.
shuamort said:If that were less of an occassion, I'd agree. But it doesn't seem so.
I'm missing the threat to kick someone's ass. Care to point it out to me?aps said:Okay. I don't want to step on anyone's toes but those kind of statements, to me, are not remotely offensive. What's offensive was some poster who threatened to kick the ass of another poster in a way that made me uncomfortable. NOTHING was said to that poster and a moderator was posting in that thread. I think belittling an individual is far worse than belittling a political party. But that is me.
Peace.
shuamort said:If that were less of an occassion, I'd agree. But it doesn't seem so.
aps said:Okay. I don't want to step on anyone's toes but those kind of statements, to me, are not remotely offensive. What's offensive was some poster who threatened to kick the ass of another poster in a way that made me uncomfortable. NOTHING was said to that poster and a moderator was posting in that thread. I think belittling an individual is far worse than belittling a political party. But that is me.
Peace.
shuamort said:That's it. I've had enough of this from you, Navy Pride. You have something interesting to say? Say it. This blaming the liberals for everything that you disagree with is lame, retarded, hackneyed and over. KNOCK IT OFF.
aps said:Additionally, Kennedy isn't seeking to get a lifetime appointment as an impartial judge....Again, a judge is supposed to be UNBIASED, and it is the Senate Judiciary Committee's responsibility for determining whether there is bias, particularly when there is evidence of such (even just the appearance of it) in the nominee's past.
libertarian_knight said:Please don't ban Navy Pride. I don't think he's much of a debator, but he's the Best Bush Apologist that DP has!
Just give him a medal and a hat with a propeller on top!
Navy Pride said:You will probably use your authority as a moderator now and ban me but I don't care......I just calls em as is sees em........If you don't like what I say don't respond to my posts............Got it?
Everyone take care, I will miss the banter and debate, especially with you aps...........
shuamort said:Nope, no banning here by me. You're free to speak your mind just as much as I am.
Navy Pride said:Fair enough, I did not realize you were so thin skinned..........I will keep that in mind if and when we spar......
In regards to your reference to all my liberal comments I do have 4,500 posts so if you put it in prospective it is not really that bad......
aps said:KC, please provide me where I said that Laura Bush committed the same kind of selfish act. I have never said that. My point in bringing her up was to point out that bad things can happen to people and many people learn from those bad experiences.
If he was continuing to show behavior similar to that which he displayed way back when, I would think he was despicable.
In the years that I have paid attention to his politics (and I grew up in Massachusetts, so I haven't just recently been observant), I have always liked him and found him to be a very articulate politician.
He does a great job for the people in Massachusetts. So those who say that he has bought his way into the Senate are fooling themselves.
So he's not perfect and he has a checkered past.
I don't condemn someone forever for that kind of behavior,
particularly when they have expressed regret.
And yes, I am aware of his behavior immediately after the incident. It doesn't change my assessment of him at all.
libertarian_knight said:Well, NP, it took a long time for you to post those 4,500 posts right? I would imagine it would take a whole lot longer to filter trhough all of them and find a 4,432 that "bashed liberals" :rofl
hehe sorry for confusing you in advance.
shuamort said:You complained:
Then were proven wrong and this is your response:
Ain't nothin' gonna please you. Now, how soon after a friend has died, should remarks be made to the press regarding it? Is 11 hours long enough to grieve before talking to the newspapers or is that too soon? Give me an exact number so we all know what's appropriate for future incidents.
Now, how soon after Laura Welch's accident did she talk to the press? How about this answer;
We can play this lame game all day long, but it goes nowhere. That's my point here. You play tit, I can play tat. Why bitch about this crap and just stick with the issues at hand instead of playing lame partisan games?
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