[h=5]I am as concerned about our safety as anyone but I just have a great deal of difficulty in believing we can be made safer by removing guns from citizens hands, the victims of crime.
How does this keeping guns out of the wrong hands work when all it appears to do is keep guns out of the right hands? How will we be safer?[/h]
You cant, get over it.[h=5]I am as concerned about our safety as anyone but I just have a great deal of difficulty in believing we can be made safer by removing guns from citizens hands, the victims of crime.
How does this keeping guns out of the wrong hands work when all it appears to do is keep guns out of the right hands? How will we be safer?[/h]
[h=5]I am as concerned about our safety as anyone but I just have a great deal of difficulty in believing we can be made safer by removing guns from citizens hands, the victims of crime.
How does this keeping guns out of the wrong hands work when all it appears to do is keep guns out of the right hands? How will we be safer?[/h]
Since it's been pretty much proven that no argument for more gun control can be logical or necessary, the only other reason politicians would push this so hard is for some underlying political agenda. In my opinion, no agenda that involves disarming of law abiding citizens leaving them defenseless, could be anything other than bad bad bad.
What is YOUR version of gun control you would be happy with?More gun control? You mean any gun control? How is more bad but some is not?
Nope, politicians may well have an agenda but no political agenda can be forward without public support. Blaming this on politicians or thinking politicians hold the key is a mistake even the NRA makes. You cannot buy a political outcome by bribing politicians if it is against public opinion. That much is just common sense and gun control keeps showing us the error of that thinking. We just don't seem to be able to figure it out. Government the master must be able to do what it wants maybe? What else explains it? No politician is going to piss people off and lose votes and power. It is when people either agree or sit on their bum that political agendas flourish.
So who's fault is it we have gun control? Ours. We are to blame when we could have prevented it by getting off our bums. The question is, we show no sign of realising that, when are we going to?
[h=5]I am as concerned about our safety as anyone but I just have a great deal of difficulty in believing we can be made safer by removing guns from citizens hands, the victims of crime.
How does this keeping guns out of the wrong hands work when all it appears to do is keep guns out of the right hands? How will we be safer?[/h]
More gun control? You mean any gun control? How is more bad but some is not?
Nope, politicians may well have an agenda but no political agenda can be forward without public support.
You cannot buy a political outcome by bribing politicians if it is against public opinion.
No politician is going to piss people off and lose votes and power.
So who's fault is it we have gun control? Ours.
What is YOUR version of gun control you would be happy with?
Why are we yelling?
I disagree. I believe our government has evolved to a point where the government does what they what, not what the people want. They simply spin the words in a way that makes it look good, or it's so obfuscated that things slip through. Case and point: Obamacare. Of course, there is no proof of this.
I disagree. I believe our government has evolved to a point where the government does what they what, not what the people want. They simply spin the words in a way that makes it look good, or it's so obfuscated that things slip through. Case and point: Obamacare. Of course, there is no proof of this.
So you have conceded defeat and surrendered before we have even begun based on a few undetermined people opposing government and being told to buzz off. You suggest we put our tail between our legs and say yes sir three bags full.
No government can withstand the will of the people unless it holds a far superior controlling power.
It is when the people are to frightened or just don't care because they are to busy enjoying the goodies government hands out that we have a major problem in the making. I'd say that describes the situation now. Citizens are busy selling their right to government on the promise of being taken care of and looked after. All we want to know is what is government going to give us.
Irresponsible gun owners have accidents and people get killed accidentally.
So how many of these does it take to punish a very large segment of society for the possible misdeeds of other?
Is it possibly irresponsible and inhuman to punish the innocent or suggest they are punished to appease your beliefs?
So blind people...
More gun control? You mean any gun control? How is more bad but some is not?
Nope, politicians may well have an agenda but no political agenda can be forward without public support. Blaming this on politicians or thinking politicians hold the key is a mistake even the NRA makes. You cannot buy a political outcome by bribing politicians if it is against public opinion. That much is just common sense and gun control keeps showing us the error of that thinking. We just don't seem to be able to figure it out. Government the master must be able to do what it wants maybe? What else explains it? No politician is going to piss people off and lose votes and power. It is when people either agree or sit on their bum that political agendas flourish.
So who's fault is it we have gun control? Ours. We are to blame when we could have prevented it by getting off our bums. The question is, we show no sign of realising that, when are we going to?
[h=5]I am as concerned about our safety as anyone but I just have a great deal of difficulty in believing we can be made safer by removing guns from citizens hands, the victims of crime.
How does this keeping guns out of the wrong hands work when all it appears to do is keep guns out of the right hands? How will we be safer?[/h]
Only convicted criminals should ever be denied the right to own guns, end of discussion.
Is it possibly irresponsible and inhuman to punish the innocent or suggest they are punished to appease your beliefs?
Really?When did you stop beating your wife?
For what valid rational reason do we need gun control?
Only convicted criminals should ever be denied the right to own guns, end of discussion.
so a fugitive on the run, fleeing say multiple indictments for capital murder are OK?
someone decreed mentally incompetent?
illegal aliens
hmmmmm
Blind people can't read words on a computer screen.
Snort!
Blame yourself.
No, I'm not conceding defeat. There is a very active group trying to bring awareness to the way the government is operating today and they aren't backing down. I'm participating with my votes. But to put it in perspective, if you have 100 educated people who know what the candidates are all about voting, and 1000 people who aren't and don't respectively, it doesn't matter how many of the 100 educated you get to vote the right way (right assuming there is only one right answer to solve these issues), the 1000 ignorant will almost always outvote the educated. Part of that is indeed because of the happy poor receiving handouts from the government. I don't support this.
Sure they can, if the government is skilled enough at making **** look like gold. That's exactly what our government does.
It is simply buying votes with dependence.I agree. But I think the underlying problem is people thinking getting handouts is a good thing. This is only good for people who have nothing, and I for one would rather give them a job than give them a check every month to pay their bills while they sit around and do nothing, or worse, break the law.
Yes they do. But that is a small fraction of the total population of gun owners. I hardly think this fits the bill of "out of control". This warrants more education on how to own and use a firearm, not international intervention.
I think this is the wrong question to be asking. I think we should be asking, "If this is happening this frequently, how can we decrease the frequency of occurrence without taking the rights away from the people who have done nothing wrong?" People get in car accidents all the time. How many of these have to occur before it warrants international intervention? You see there really isn't a number because it doesn't affect anyone but us. It is our problem, our responsibility. If we can't fix it then whatever happens as a result of it will happen. But unless like more than 50% of gun owners are having accidental discharges resulting in injury or death, I don't think this is an arguable point. Gun control is focused on people who use guns to kill others without warrant.
Yes, it is. So why should I have to suffer the punishment of having my right to bear arms stripped of me because other believe that will solve gun crime? I shouldn't, plain and simple.
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