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Kasich on the clock

Crovax said:
In what world does that happen Rubio might not win but he's certainly going to do a lot better than Kasich. Rubio is gaining support while Trump and Kasich have both under preformed.
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Crovax said:
Kasich declared himself as part of the "final four" in the GOP race

John Kasich's South Carolina Primary Speech Video - ABC News

He has now finished 5th in both SC and Nevada. When you finish 5th in a 4 man race its time to drop out.
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Always interesting to review former prognostications in hindsight. Welcome to THAT world. Time for Rubio to hang it up. Perhaps he would make a good Kasich VP after the party gives to Kasich in Cleveland.

This song was heard at Rubio campaign HQ.

 
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upsideguy said:
Always interesting to review former prognostications in hindsight. Welcome to THAT world. Time for Rubio to hang it up. Perhaps he would make a good Kasich VP after the party gives to Kasich in Cleveland.

This song was heard at Rubio campaign HQ.

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It is interesting to see how right I am. Kasich never had a path to the nomination and even with Rubio's campaign in its death throes Kasich still finished 3rd, 3rd, 4th and 4th on tues. We have had 24 contests and Kasich hasn't won a single won, in fact by the time we finish his home state's race he is likely to be 0 for 33. Even if he was in a position to win his home state did he really think that after losing 32 primaries in a row that winning the 33rd would magically make him a viable candidate. Kasich is severely delusional if he ever thought he could win the nomination outright. He is even more delusional if he thinks he can win a brokered convention considering that he will be the main reason that neither Cruz or Rubio had a chance to get a majority. Why exactly would the power brokers reward him for being such a disruptive force?

Rubio and Kasich need to drop out now before March 15th if they don't want Trump to be the nominee, the longer they both hold on the more likely it is that Trump wins an outright majority. The theory was that staying in would create a brokered convention but as we learn that Trump has not gained any supporters from candidates who dropped out, it's clear that a two man race is the best way to thwart Trump and pretty much by shear dumb luck Cruz gets to be that guy.
 
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Crovax said:
It is interesting to see how right I am. Kasich never had a path to the nomination and even with Rubio's campaign in its death throes Kasich still finished 3rd, 3rd, 4th and 4th on tues. We have had 24 contests and Kasich hasn't won a single won, in fact by the time we finish his home state's race he is likely to be 0 for 33. Even if he was in a position to win his home state did he really think that after losing 32 primaries in a row that winning the 33rd would magically make him a viable candidate. Kasich is severely delusional if he ever thought he could win the nomination outright. He is even more delusional if he thinks he can win a brokered convention considering that he will be the main reason that neither Cruz or Rubio had a chance to get a majority. Why exactly would the power brokers reward him for being such a disruptive force?

Rubio and Kasich need to drop out now before March 15th if they don't want Trump to be the nominee, the longer they both hold on the more likely it is that Trump wins an outright majority. The theory was that staying in would create a brokered convention but as we learn that Trump has gained any supporters from candidates who dropped out, it's clear that a two man race is the best way to thwart Trump and pretty much by shear dumb luck Cruz gets to be that guy.
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^ Pretty much this. Kasich winning is a statistical impossibility.
 
Helix said:
i've thought from the beginning that a Kasich / Rubio ticket would be tough to beat because of simple electoral math. Trump is pretty much Republican suicide, and Cruz is way right of the average voter.
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Neither Kasich nor Rubio is likely to carry their own state in the primary. What makes you think they'd fare any better in the general?

The GOP base wants fiery scorched earth, and neither of these guys is going to deliver that.
 
Kobie said:
Neither Kasich nor Rubio is likely to carry their own state in the primary. What makes you think they'd fare any better in the general?

The GOP base wants fiery scorched earth, and neither of these guys is going to deliver that.
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They would have had a good chance of taking Ohio and Florida off of the table in the general. Neither is likely to win the primary, though.
 
I guess the question is: Could Cruz win Florida and Ohio if Rubio and Kasich drop out now? If the answer is yes, they should. Cruz is not my cup of tea, but he infinitely preferable to Trump.
 
Kobie said:
Kasich winning is a statistical impossibility.
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Only if Frumpy hits 1237. I don't think he will.

Kobie said:
The GOP base wants fiery scorched earth, and neither of these guys is going to deliver that.
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In the end, parties don't care about their base — they only care about themselves.
 
jimbo said:
VP picks seldom help a candidate, but the wrong VP pick can hurt a candidate.
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Not to mention that the wrong Presidential candidate can really hurt the VP candidate....
 
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