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Kansas bans Sharia Law

Thunder said:
and yet you aren't bothered by Jewish law being allowed by an American court?
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Because the Jewish law conforms to American law. If you say different, give your proof.

Quantrill
 
Quantrill said:
Really, was the Reichstag concerned over the threat of Islam. How stupid.

Quantrill
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Yet you still totally fail to provide evidence that American muslims as a whole are posing such an imminent threat to this country that Kansas has to enact an law.
Again I as you,if Islam and American muslims are such a threat to this country,what do you suggest be done about it.?
 
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Quantrill said:
Why, by assertion?

Quantrill
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Our laws require equal treatment of religions to prevent favoritism, thus official support/establishment. If you want to prevent sharia law from being used in cases between members of Islam, you must prevent Christian law and Jewish law from being used as well as you are required to treat the religions equally lest you favor one at the detriment of another and thus violate the Establishment Clause.
 
Thunder said:
i provided an article, which had sources for its info.
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Is an article proof? Give some valid proof that America allows the Jews to execise their law that must not meet American law.

Quantrill
 
Verthaine said:
Yet you still totally fail to provide evidence that American muslims as a whole are posing such an imminent threat to this country that Kansas has to enact an law.
Again I as you,if Islam and American muslims are such a threat to this country,what do you suggest be done about it.?
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Again, I did provide the evidence. You just want to ignore it.

Again, I told you already what to do about it. Can you read?

Qantrill
 
Quantrill said:
Because the Jewish law conforms to American law. If you say different, give your proof.

Quantrill
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Just answer my question Quantrill. If a judge is sitting in a particular county in the US, and the law of the state that county is in is that you need to file paperwork with the county records office within 3 weeks of being married by an officiant licensed by that state, how does the court determine whether somebody married in Saudi Arabia 18 years ago is married or not without looking at what the steps were to make it official in Saudi Arabia 18 years ago?

That's the kind of situation where Sharia law becomes relevant in US courts. It isn't like some judges are just saying, "hey, lets use the Sharia rule for murder in this case instead of the US one" lol.
 
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Jewish Arbitration and Mediation - Jewish Beth Din

The Beit Din Jewish court of the USA, is enforced by American law as binding arbitration.

That means that civil disputes are being decided using Jewish religious law, and their decisions are being enforced by AMERICAN law, as all binding-arbitration is.

And anyone who knows a thing about Halachah and the Talmud, knows that Jewish religious law and American civil law, are VERY different.

if it is OK for Jews' civil disputes to be handled by Jewish law, then civil disputes can also be handles by Muslim law.

otherwise, we are hypocrites.
 
Thunder said:
bull****!!!!

Halachah does NOT conform to American law, in any way.

You have no clue what you're talking about.
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If its just religious oriented, it doesn't have to, unless it breaks the American law. But if its concerned with civil and secular, then it must agree with American law.

Quantrill
 
Quantrill said:
If its just religious oriented, it doesn't have to, unless it breaks the American law. But if its concerned with civil and secular, then it must agree with American law.

Quantrill
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The laws of the Talmud, agree with American law??????????????

:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo

I say again, the Beit Din is considered BINDING ARBITRATION.

that means both parties agree to abide by the ruling, regardless of who's side its on.

and this binding arbitration, is enforced by American law.

IT IS CIVIL DISPUTES DECIDED BY TALMUDIC LAW, WHICH IS 1,400 YEARS OLDER THAN THE USA.
 
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dabateman said:
Our laws require equal treatment of religions to prevent favoritism, thus official support/establishment. If you want to prevent sharia law from being used in cases between members of Islam, you must prevent Christian law and Jewish law from being used as well as you are required to treat the religions equally lest you favor one at the detriment of another and thus violate the Establishment Clause.
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Our laws require freedom of religion. Our laws say that congress can ennact any law to establish a religion. Western Civilizatin of which the US comes from is highly effected by the Bible. Thus so are its laws. Christianity and the Bible are warp and woof part of the American politcs.

Islam had no role in America. None whatsoever. It can be allowed to exist, but not allowed to have political authority. And that is what you are giving it when you allow Shariah law. Islam is both secualr and religion. Shariah governs them both.

Quantrill
 
Quantrill said:
...Islam had no role in America. None whatsoever. It can be allowed to exist, but not allowed to have political authority. And that is what you are giving it when you allow Shariah law. Islam is both secualr and religion. Shariah governs them both.

Quantrill
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so Judaism has political authority in the USA, due to the Beit Din?

why aren't you worried about Jewish control of the USA, only Muslim?
 
Thunder said:
The laws of the Talmud, agree with American law??????????????

:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo

I say again, the Beit Din is considered BINDING ARBITRATION.

that means both parties agree to abide by the ruling, regardless of who's side its on.

and this binding arbitration, is enforced by American law.

IT IS CIVIL DISPUTES DECIDED BY TALMUDIC LAW, WHICH IS 1,400 YEARS OLDER THAN THE USA.
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lamo all you want. You havent provided any proof of what your saying.

Quantrill
 
Quantrill said:
lamo all you want. You havent provided any proof of what your saying.

Quantrill
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Just answer my question Quantrill. If a judge is sitting in a particular county in the US, and the law of the state that county is in is that you need to file paperwork with the county records office within 3 weeks of being married by an officiant licensed by that state, how does the court determine whether somebody married in Saudi Arabia 18 years ago is married or not without looking at what the steps were to make it official in Saudi Arabia 18 years ago? They have to look at the law where and when they were married of course. The same way they do if the person was from another state, was married in a different time or any other country.

That's the kind of situation where Sharia law becomes relevant in US courts. It isn't like some judges are just saying, "hey, lets use the Sharia rule for murder in this case instead of the US one" lol.
 
Thunder said:
why do Muslim courts scare you but Jewish courts don't?
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Scare? Not hardly. Illegal, yes.

You haven't proved that Jewish courts supercede American law.

Quantrill
 
teamosil said:
Just answer my question Quantrill. If a judge is sitting in a particular county in the US, and the law of the state that county is in is that you need to file paperwork with the county records office within 3 weeks of being married by an officiant licensed by that state, how does the court determine whether somebody married in Saudi Arabia 18 years ago is married or not without looking at what the steps were to make it official in Saudi Arabia 18 years ago? They have to look at the law where and when they were married of course. The same way they do if the person was from another state, was married in a different time or any other country.

That's the kind of situation where Sharia law becomes relevant in US courts. It isn't like some judges are just saying, "hey, lets use the Sharia rule for murder in this case instead of the US one" lol.
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Bull. Your just describing looking into records and getting the information straight. And then all is done in accordance to American law. That is not what Islam is wanting by implementing sharia law over muslims in america. Muslims then answer to Shariah law and not American law. Big difference.

Quantrill
 
Quantrill said:
Bull. Your just describing looking into records and getting the information straight. And then all is done in accordance to American law. That is not what Islam is wanting by implementing sharia law over muslims in america. Muslims then answer to Shariah law and not American law. Big difference.

Quantrill
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and what if its merely binding arbitration for civil disputes, like with the Beit Din?

would you be ok with it now?
 
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