Kamala Harris Has Another ‘Word Salad’ Moment While Speaking at Workforce Summit

[ttwtt78640]

Trump supporters criticize anyone else for not delivering succinct message.

Irony meters all around the world simultaneously explode.

Yep, but noting that TrumpSpeak was bad (and it certainly was) does not improve what Kamala Harris spews.

 

[Michael Cole]

Yep, but noting that TrumpSpeak was bad (and it certainly was) does not improve what Kamala Harris spews.

No, but the difference is that Trump's speech pattern is 100% style and 0% substance. This is why he repeats the simplest, most meaningless statements over and over. It's the sound of his voice, his pattern of speaking that his followers want. It matters not what he says. Harris is difficult to listen to, as is Biden sometimes. We're all human. But I can understand what Harris and Biden are saying; I look for substance, not style. If I want to cheer, I'll go to an Aces game.

 

[Slyfox696]

Yep, but noting that TrumpSpeak was bad (and it certainly was) does not improve what Kamala Harris spews.

I haven't watched the video, but I do agree that Trump's speech has nothing to do with Harris's speech. It's just the irony of certain people posting certain things which tickles me.

 

[element94]

Its interesting that some see precise statements as "word salad"

Interesting that they don't seem to know what the word insurrection means , so when these threads pop up I just have to roll my eyes.

 

[ttwtt78640]

No, but the difference is that Trump's speech pattern is 100% style and 0% substance. This is why he repeats the simplest, most meaningless statements over and over. It's the sound of his voice, his pattern of speaking that his followers want. It matters not what he says. Harris is difficult to listen to, as is Biden sometimes. We're all human. But I can understand what Harris and Biden are saying; I look for substance, not style. If I want to cheer, I'll go to an Aces game.

The “substance” of federally funded transportation improvement is much more applicable to the bipartisan ‘infrastructure’ bill than to the very partisan ARP bill.

 

[Michael Cole]

The “substance” of federally funded transportation improvement is much more applicable to the bipartisan ‘infrastructure’ bill than to the very partisan ARP bill.

And?

Are we talking about misplaced speeches or speaking patterns? That you think her words were better suited elsewhere doesn't address my points.

 

[Slartibartfast]

It wasn't about you.

Then why did you discuss me trying to improve her approval?

 

[Slartibartfast]

That is a problem no matter what she tries to talk about. This particular speaking tour is trying to justify spending about $40B of the nearly $2T ARP.

The reason is that people are justifiably concerned (see poll numbers) about what the Biden/Harris administration is currently doing to help struggling working class families trying to cope with high inflation.

Her mission is to point out that some (tiny part) of the ARP’s nearly $2T in additional federal spending was not simply given away to individuals (to support their past consumption) and is having some (minimal) lasting impact (other than simply sparking inflation).

That's a completely different topic.

 

[ttwtt78640]

And?

Are we talking about misplaced speeches or speaking patterns?

Both.

That you think her words were better suited elsewhere doesn't address my points.

Your “points” seem to be trying to defend Harris no matter what she said or how she said it. The amount of transportation project sending in the ARP (passed in March 2021) was so tiny that the WH summary didn’t even mention it.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/American-Rescue-Plan-Fact-Sheet.pdf

 

[Michael Cole]

Both.

It was a rhetorical question. I mentioned nothing about the DoT or any bill. I'm talking about speech patterns. That's what you responded to.

Your “points” seem to be trying to defend Harris no matter what she said or how she said it.

I examined her speech pattern, as I did Trump's. I defended no one. Indeed, I said I didn't like how Harris speaks.

Your points seem to indicate binary thinking. That's fine. I'm not a binary thinker.

The amount of transportation project sending in the ARP (passed in March 2021) was so tiny that the WH summary didn’t even mention it.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/American-Rescue-Plan-Fact-Sheet.pdf

Irrelevant deflection, as already stated.

 

[IQ57]

Its interesting that some see precise statements as "word salad"

That is certainly a talking point.

But, for the fun of it, lets assume your point is true. Why criticize her on precise speech if there are more salient points to be made? That says more about the criticizer than it does about her.

Ok? So you feel she is talking down to you then?

I am not attempting to do anything, nor do I have the power to. I am just curious what the objection actually is.

She's a smart black woman, and if Bubba is to be believed, she mansplains to people. This seems to create a visceral reaction in some.

The complaint in the OP appears to be more about her mannerisms and word choice more than any particular topic.

Then why did you discuss me trying to improve her approval?

That's a completely different topic.

Projection and deflection have you grasping at straws trying to justify someone who is incompetent. What does that say about the poster?

The topics are all the same.

 

[tres borrachos]

I love how Kamala Harris triggers Trump Fan Nation.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I love how Kamala Harris triggers Trump Fan Nation.

Yep, and vice versa.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Projection and deflection have you grasping at straws trying to justify someone who is incompetent. What does that say about the poster?

The topics are all the same.

Why are you asking yourself a question about your own approach?

That's the great thing about these types of accusation, posters like IQ57 can make them without any claims to back them up, but can just as easily be reversed. Such an interesting, if empty, rhetorical strategy. That's all for today, class, unless IQ57 goes for extra credit with another attempt.

 

[bubbabgone]

What makes you think she cares about her approval rating?

When I'm working, I do my job. I'm not perfect but damn near. I couldn't care less what my combined boss-coworker approval rating is when working. I'm not alone, nor is everyone like me. Some people - you, perhaps - see work as a game. Water cooler politics. I don't play that game, and I'm guessing Harris doesn't either.

I don't care how anyone speaks as long as I can understand them. Other people are susceptible to smooth talkers. These con artists don't have to speak intelligibly, because their audience (marks) only wants to hear the smooth.

Humans are a very diverse species.

You can't be that naïve.

 

[bubbabgone]

Then why did you discuss me trying to improve her approval?

Please reread what I wrote without thinking it was an attack on you.
I was pointing out how her speaking style does not help her approval rating.

 

[Michael Cole]

You can't be that naïve.

So, nothing then.

I'll try again. What makes you think every politician always does their job with approval ratings as the objective?

As slimy as politics is, many officials, many times, are just trying to do their jobs.

 

[ttwtt78640]

You can't be that naïve.

Don’t bet on that.

 

[Big Brother]

As slimy as politics is, many officials, many times, are just trying to do their jobs.

Which is what exactly? I think it is follow the party's mandates and spend most of their time looking for campaign funds.

 

[Michael Cole]

Which is what exactly?

What it's not is focusing on approval ratings. That's a strategist's job. Everyone isn't Trump.

I think it is follow the party's mandates and spend most of their time looking for campaign funds.

 

[ttwtt78640]

What it's not is focusing on approval ratings. That's a strategist's job. Everyone isn't Trump.

Most want their elected representatives to “focus on approval ratings” (aka represent the will of their electorate).

 

[Big Brother]

What it's not is focusing on approval ratings. That's a strategist's job. Everyone isn't Trump.

They actually pay a person to worry about the approval ratings and popularity, to help them drum up campaign funds and win elections, but they don't really care what that professional tells them. OK. You're right.

 

[IQ57]

I love how Kamala Harris triggers Trump Fan Nation.

Yep, and vice versa.

Truth.

 

[Michael Cole]

Most want their elected representatives to “focus on approval ratings” (aka represent the will of their electorate).

Maybe. Who knows. Irrelevant.

My point is that there are two types I'm contrasting. Those who kiss ass and those who work. Those whose every word is directed at reelection, approval ratings, numbers. And others to whom all those things are important and goals, but they seek to achieve them by working for them.

There have always been panderers and agitators, but there never has been a campaign attack ad presented under the cover of a covid briefing. What was it? The third? Fourth? Week two?

 

[IQ57]

^^^^misses the entire point

They actually pay a person to worry about the approval ratings and popularity, to help them drum up campaign funds and win elections, but they don't really care what that professional tells them. OK. You're right.

How did we get focused on approval ratings as opposed to actual approval in reality? Words and actions have meanings, so does the lack thereof.

That’s what the MSM will do to people. Especially when it comes to TDS. Smoke screens and deflections, coupled with lies and deceit.