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Kamala Harris compares ICE to KKK, gets slammed for 'disgusting,' 'horrifying' remarks

Actually, no. As post #160 above shows, the dirt mostly resides under the fingernails of Republicans; 34 prison sentences to 3.

:lamo
You need to pay attention.
THERE IS NO COLLUSION!
No charges of collusion. No evidence of collusion. NO COLLUSION.

However, while some Republicans have been charged with crimes in the past, so have Democrats.
I mean...one might have though Weiner would have learned his lesson but...well...he does seem to have troubles keeping his little penis out of site...:lamo
 
Actually, no. As post #160 above shows, the dirt mostly resides under the fingernails of Republicans; 34 prison sentences to 3.
Calamity, don't you get it? 30 wrongs vs 3 don't make a right.

But they do allow for a lot of high horsing from Republicans upset.

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Well...I'm really happy and amazed, frankly, that you speak for "we".
You link has ZERO to do with the campaign. ZERO!

Have a nice day.
Lmao, except of course the campaign manager is in the story's title being investigated. Again, alternative facts gave you these alternative realities where the government is only corrupt when going after Trump and associates, and when it doesnt prosecute who you want prosecuted.

Keep counting them chickens, Buzz.

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MSNBC has Right Wing Joe on every morning. And, CNN has nearly as many Right Wing contributors as Fox News. But, neither one has been caught creating a fake news Seth Rich fantasy like Fox.

Are you out of your mind? "Right Wing Joe"? LOL! More like, "The Morning Joke". You must be kidding!
 
Lmao, except of course the campaign manager is in the story's title being investigated. Again, alternative facts gave you these alternative realities where the government is only corrupt when going after Trump and associates, and when it doesnt prosecute who you want prosecuted.

Keep counting them chickens, Buzz.

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Sigh...ok fine...

- Anthony Weiner (D-NY)[5] was convicted of sending sexually explicit photos of himself to a 15-year-old girl and was made to sign the sexual offenders register. (2017)
- - Corrine Brown (D-FL) was convicted on 18 felony counts of wire and tax fraud, conspiracy, lying to federal investigators, and other corruption charges. (2017)
Chaka Fattah (D-PA) was convicted on 23 counts of racketeering, fraud, and other corruption charges. (2016)
- Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-IL) pleaded guilty February 20, 2013, to one count of wire and mail fraud in connection with his misuse of $750,000 in campaign funds. Jackson was sentenced to two-and-one-half years' imprisonment. (2013)
- Laura Richardson (D-CA) was found guilty on seven counts of violating US House rules by improperly using her staff to campaign for her, destroying the evidence and tampering with witness testimony. The House Ethics Committee ordered Richardson to pay a fine of $10,000. (2012)
- William J. Jefferson (D-LA) was charged in August 2005 after the FBI seized $90,000 in cash from his home freezer. He was re-elected to the House in 2006, but lost in 2008. He was convicted November 13, 2009, of 11 counts of bribery and sentenced to 13 years in prison. (2009)[40] Jefferson's Chief of Staff Brett Pfeffer, was sentenced to 84 months for bribery. (2006)
- Frank Ballance (D-NC) admitted to federal charges of money laundering and mail fraud in October 2005 and was sentenced to four years in prison. (2005)
- Jim Traficant (D-OH) was found guilty on ten felony counts of financial corruption, sentenced to eight years in prison and expelled from the House of Representatives. (2002)
- Wade Sanders (D), Deputy Assistant United States Secretary of the Navy, for Reserve Affairs, was sentenced to 37 months in prison on one charge of possession of child pornography. (2009)[47][48][49]
- Darleen A. Druyun (D), Principal Deputy United States Under Secretary of the Air Force.[50] She pleaded guilty to inflating the price of contracts to favor her future employer, Boeing. In October 2004, she was sentenced to nine months in jail for corruption, fined $5,000, given three years of supervised release and 150 hours of community service (2005).[51] CBS News called it "the biggest Pentagon scandal in 20 years" and said that she pleaded guilty to a felony.
- Mel Reynolds (D-IL) was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. (1997) He was later convicted of 12 counts of bank fraud. (1999)
- Austin Murphy (D-PA) was convicted of one count of voter fraud for filling out absentee ballots for members of a nursing home. (1999)

And then there's the House Banking Scandal...4 of the 5 convicted...Democrats.
- Carl C. Perkins (D-KY) pleaded guilty to a check kiting scheme involving several financial institutions (including the House Bank).
- Carroll Hubbard (D-KY) was convicted of illegally funneling money to his wife's 1992 campaign to succeed him in congress.
- Mary Rose Oakar (D-OH) pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor campaign finance charge not related to the House Bank.
- Walter Fauntroy (D-District of Columbia) was convicted of filing false disclosure forms to hide unauthorized income.

Shall I continue?

Have a nice day.
 
Sigh...ok fine...

- Anthony Weiner (D-NY)[5] was convicted of sending sexually explicit photos of himself to a 15-year-old girl and was made to sign the sexual offenders register. (2017)
- - Corrine Brown (D-FL) was convicted on 18 felony counts of wire and tax fraud, conspiracy, lying to federal investigators, and other corruption charges. (2017)
Chaka Fattah (D-PA) was convicted on 23 counts of racketeering, fraud, and other corruption charges. (2016)
- Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-IL) pleaded guilty February 20, 2013, to one count of wire and mail fraud in connection with his misuse of $750,000 in campaign funds. Jackson was sentenced to two-and-one-half years' imprisonment. (2013)
- Laura Richardson (D-CA) was found guilty on seven counts of violating US House rules by improperly using her staff to campaign for her, destroying the evidence and tampering with witness testimony. The House Ethics Committee ordered Richardson to pay a fine of $10,000. (2012)
- William J. Jefferson (D-LA) was charged in August 2005 after the FBI seized $90,000 in cash from his home freezer. He was re-elected to the House in 2006, but lost in 2008. He was convicted November 13, 2009, of 11 counts of bribery and sentenced to 13 years in prison. (2009)[40] Jefferson's Chief of Staff Brett Pfeffer, was sentenced to 84 months for bribery. (2006)
- Frank Ballance (D-NC) admitted to federal charges of money laundering and mail fraud in October 2005 and was sentenced to four years in prison. (2005)
- Jim Traficant (D-OH) was found guilty on ten felony counts of financial corruption, sentenced to eight years in prison and expelled from the House of Representatives. (2002)
- Wade Sanders (D), Deputy Assistant United States Secretary of the Navy, for Reserve Affairs, was sentenced to 37 months in prison on one charge of possession of child pornography. (2009)[47][48][49]
- Darleen A. Druyun (D), Principal Deputy United States Under Secretary of the Air Force.[50] She pleaded guilty to inflating the price of contracts to favor her future employer, Boeing. In October 2004, she was sentenced to nine months in jail for corruption, fined $5,000, given three years of supervised release and 150 hours of community service (2005).[51] CBS News called it "the biggest Pentagon scandal in 20 years" and said that she pleaded guilty to a felony.
- Mel Reynolds (D-IL) was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. (1997) He was later convicted of 12 counts of bank fraud. (1999)
- Austin Murphy (D-PA) was convicted of one count of voter fraud for filling out absentee ballots for members of a nursing home. (1999)

And then there's the House Banking Scandal...4 of the 5 convicted...Democrats.
- Carl C. Perkins (D-KY) pleaded guilty to a check kiting scheme involving several financial institutions (including the House Bank).
- Carroll Hubbard (D-KY) was convicted of illegally funneling money to his wife's 1992 campaign to succeed him in congress.
- Mary Rose Oakar (D-OH) pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor campaign finance charge not related to the House Bank.
- Walter Fauntroy (D-District of Columbia) was convicted of filing false disclosure forms to hide unauthorized income.

Shall I continue?

Have a nice day.

Didn't House Speaker Denny Hassert (R-IL) molest little boys?

I call that a Trump card. :)
 
Didn't House Speaker Denny Hassert (R-IL) molest little boys?

I call that a Trump card. :)

Perhaps. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he did.
My point is...ALL politicians have dirt under their fingernails.
Thus this witch hunt is finding dirt on so many Republicans right now.
Were this witch hunt to focus on Hillary-Billary's campaign, the results would be similar. Of that I am quite sure.

You people want nothing more than to bring Trump down. But if you do...it wouldn't be to anyone's surprise that then entire house of cards comes crumbling down.
My advise...be very careful what you wish for.
 
The author points out why the above is true rather succinctly, vesper... Good article. Thanks for sharing.

As an aside, I don't think there is anybody from congress I dislike more than Kamala Harris.

I'm right there with you. I think her rhetoric is dangerous and what makes it even more so, is her deftness at pernicious implication and ruthless domination of her subject from the bully pulpit (dais).

Kamala Harris always plays a zero-sum game, with scorched-earth tactics.
 
That's the thing, it isn't "just" Trump discrediting our agencies. It is the Trump administration, the GOP in general and supporters on the ground attacking the DOJ, FBI, EPA, IRS, FCC, etc as being biased, corrupt, criminal etc
Now all of a sudden we are up in arms about a Democrat ****ting on a government agency?

Lol, get real.

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One step in getting real is the recognition that the first set of government agencies have been accused by the right of gross misconduct and harm to the American people; another agency has been accused by the left of gross misconduct and harm to illegal aliens and foreign citizens.

Clearly we see whose side the each group of accusers favor, no?
 
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One step in getting real is the recognition that the first set of government agencies have been accused by the right of gross misconduct towards and harm to the American people; the second is accused of gross misconduct and harm to illegal aliens and foreign citizens.

Clearly we see whose side the each set of accusers are on, no?
Lmao hahahahaha, no no, the American people voted for Democrats last election because they're tired of made up stories about 'enemies of the American people' while our president pals around with Saudis, Russians and sells off US property to the Chinese.

You live in a twisted reality, don't you?



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Sigh...ok fine...

- Anthony Weiner (D-NY)[5] was convicted of sending sexually explicit photos of himself to a 15-year-old girl and was made to sign the sexual offenders register. (2017)
- - Corrine Brown (D-FL) was convicted on 18 felony counts of wire and tax fraud, conspiracy, lying to federal investigators, and other corruption charges. (2017)
Chaka Fattah (D-PA) was convicted on 23 counts of racketeering, fraud, and other corruption charges. (2016)
- Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-IL) pleaded guilty February 20, 2013, to one count of wire and mail fraud in connection with his misuse of $750,000 in campaign funds. Jackson was sentenced to two-and-one-half years' imprisonment. (2013)
- Laura Richardson (D-CA) was found guilty on seven counts of violating US House rules by improperly using her staff to campaign for her, destroying the evidence and tampering with witness testimony. The House Ethics Committee ordered Richardson to pay a fine of $10,000. (2012)
- William J. Jefferson (D-LA) was charged in August 2005 after the FBI seized $90,000 in cash from his home freezer. He was re-elected to the House in 2006, but lost in 2008. He was convicted November 13, 2009, of 11 counts of bribery and sentenced to 13 years in prison. (2009)[40] Jefferson's Chief of Staff Brett Pfeffer, was sentenced to 84 months for bribery. (2006)
- Frank Ballance (D-NC) admitted to federal charges of money laundering and mail fraud in October 2005 and was sentenced to four years in prison. (2005)
- Jim Traficant (D-OH) was found guilty on ten felony counts of financial corruption, sentenced to eight years in prison and expelled from the House of Representatives. (2002)
- Wade Sanders (D), Deputy Assistant United States Secretary of the Navy, for Reserve Affairs, was sentenced to 37 months in prison on one charge of possession of child pornography. (2009)[47][48][49]
- Darleen A. Druyun (D), Principal Deputy United States Under Secretary of the Air Force.[50] She pleaded guilty to inflating the price of contracts to favor her future employer, Boeing. In October 2004, she was sentenced to nine months in jail for corruption, fined $5,000, given three years of supervised release and 150 hours of community service (2005).[51] CBS News called it "the biggest Pentagon scandal in 20 years" and said that she pleaded guilty to a felony.
- Mel Reynolds (D-IL) was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. (1997) He was later convicted of 12 counts of bank fraud. (1999)
- Austin Murphy (D-PA) was convicted of one count of voter fraud for filling out absentee ballots for members of a nursing home. (1999)

And then there's the House Banking Scandal...4 of the 5 convicted...Democrats.
- Carl C. Perkins (D-KY) pleaded guilty to a check kiting scheme involving several financial institutions (including the House Bank).
- Carroll Hubbard (D-KY) was convicted of illegally funneling money to his wife's 1992 campaign to succeed him in congress.
- Mary Rose Oakar (D-OH) pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor campaign finance charge not related to the House Bank.
- Walter Fauntroy (D-District of Columbia) was convicted of filing false disclosure forms to hide unauthorized income.

Shall I continue?

Have a nice day.
Lmao, gotta love Buzz's terrible debate style. Claims to be outraged that a Democrat attacks a government agency, shows evidence of Democrats following legal processes and nobody blaming some crazy level of bureaucratic conspiracy for their convictions. Now compare that to our president:

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Remember Buzz, the point was that Republicans have no problem harping about government agencies when things don't go how they want, and now they're suddenly up in arms about a Democrat ****ting on a government agency.

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Lmao hahahahaha, no no, the American people voted for Democrats last election because they're tired of made up stories about 'enemies of the American people' while our president pals around with Saudis, Russians and sells off US property to the Chinese.

You live in a twisted reality, don't you?

Sorry, non sequitur. We are not speaking of who some people vote for in one election or why they vote for each side - we are speaking of what is self-evident to the rational minded...the significant difference between what government agencies the right attacks and who the left attacks are that on one side there is anger over how some agencies treat fellow Americans, the other is over how an agency treats illegals and foreign citizens.

Should you wish to stay on topic, no one object.
 
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Lmao, gotta love Buzz's terrible debate style. Claims to be outraged that a Democrat attacks a government agency, shows evidence of Democrats following legal processes and nobody blaming some crazy level of bureaucratic conspiracy for their convictions. Now compare that to our president:

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Remember Buzz, the point was that Republicans have no problem harping about government agencies when things don't go how they want, and now they're suddenly up in arms about a Democrat ****ting on a government agency.

[emoji1787]



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Actually...I don't really remember a Republican calling a federal agency akin to the KKK...do you?
Its one thing to suspect a 2 year plus investigation that has turned up nothing but a bunch of hot air, and calling the people tasked with enforcing the nation's citizenship and migration laws, the same as the Klan. But I'm not really surprised you don't or won't admit that.
 
Actually...I don't really remember a Republican calling a federal agency akin to the KKK...do you?
Its one thing to suspect a 2 year plus investigation that has turned up nothing but a bunch of hot air, and calling the people tasked with enforcing the nation's citizenship and migration laws, the same as the Klan. But I'm not really surprised you don't or won't admit that.
Lmao, hahahahahaha yeah we know the problem is that they went too far and called them KKK members! As opposed to the administration that has accused various government organizations and agencies, media outlets of colluding to topple the president - otherwise known as treason. Call government agents and everyday citizens traitors? Fine. But don't call them KKK members? Too far, bro!

Your position is laughable, and desperate.

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Lmao, hahahahahaha yeah we know the problem is that they went too far and called them KKK members! As opposed to the administration that has accused various government organizations and agencies, media outlets of colluding to topple the president - otherwise known as treason. Call government agents and everyday citizens traitors? Fine. But don't call them KKK members? Too far, bro!

Your position is laughable, and desperate.

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I am NOT your 'bro'.

And I'm hardly 'desperate'. If anyone is 'desperate', it would be you.
The moron compared ICE officials to the Klan.
The media...most of it anyway...lies daily. And for their efforts, CNN is on a serious decline, one of their WH reporters may never get to ask another question, and Don Lemon is the worst journalist in the world. There also happens to be real evidence that people in Justice and the FBI are playing partisan games. I would think the POTUS should be speaking up about that...wouldn't you?
 
I am NOT your 'bro'.

And I'm hardly 'desperate'. If anyone is 'desperate', it would be you.
The moron compared ICE officials to the Klan.
The media...most of it anyway...lies daily. And for their efforts, CNN is on a serious decline, one of their WH reporters may never get to ask another question, and Don Lemon is the worst journalist in the world. There also happens to be real evidence that people in Justice and the FBI are playing partisan games. I would think the POTUS should be speaking up about that...wouldn't you?

Lmao, your attacks are justified in spite of all the lack of evidence, miscounted chickens and ruffled feathers you've failed to expose. Everyone else's are unjustified, bro!

Is that how this works, Buzz?6 years after Benghazi, Hillary, Obama Lynch, Comey, Etc walk freely. How many Trump campaign representatives are looking at real prison time? How many seats did the GOP lose last election because of your alternative reality?

You want us to buy your crazy beliefs on why this happened but then go nuts over someone else attacking an agency?

So crazy. [emoji23]

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Lmao, your attacks are justified in spite of all the lack of evidence, miscounted chickens and ruffled feathers you've failed to expose. Everyone else's are unjustified, bro!

Is that how this works, Buzz?6 years after Benghazi, Hillary, Obama Lynch, Comey, Etc walk freely. How many Trump campaign representatives are looking at real prison time? How many seats did the GOP lose last election because of your alternative reality?

You want us to buy your crazy beliefs on why this happened but then go nuts over someone else attacking an agency?

So crazy. [emoji23]

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You sure laugh your ass off allot. Nervous reaction?

Nobody said jack **** about Benghazi. At least I haven't. Really man...are you sure you know how Putin's MacBook even works?
Evidently not. Thus this is a waste of time and effort on my part.
Run along now...bye bye...
 
See what I mean Felix or are you going to pretend some more? Lol,

GOP: FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA, EPA, FCC are all crooked.

Democrat: ICE is gestapo garbage.

GOP: omg! How dare you attack a government agency?

Spare everyone the hypocrisy.



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You should give up on sarcasm. You are not very good at it. Not sure why you included the EPA or the FCC is your rant. Ofcourse the FBI, DOJ, CIA, and NSA are not all crooked. Most who serve in those organizations are honorable. However as has happened before in this nation's history, some of the leaders do on some occasions get politicized and in some cases are crooked. Ask your grandma and grandpa about J Edgar Hoover.
 
MSNBC has Right Wing Joe on every morning. And, CNN has nearly as many Right Wing contributors as Fox News. But, neither one has been caught creating a fake news Seth Rich fantasy like Fox.

Right wing Joe? iAt one time that boy claimed to be a conservative. He has not been in years. As for the Seth Rich story, how would you know if it was fake or fantasy?
 
Lmao, accusations based on documented facts. You've had 2 years to take people to court and you've got nothing. Is Hillary locked up yet? What about Lynch? Obama? Anyone? No? Lol, your documented facts can go sit in a corner with your opinion. They're worthless.

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Hillary's punishment, she is going through it now is a political novice defeating her in her lifetime goal to become the first woman president. That's worse for the hildabeast then prison. 2016 was in all likely hood her last real chance.
 
Hillary's punishment, she is going through it now is a political novice defeating her in her lifetime goal to become the first woman president. That's worse for the hildabeast then prison. 2016 was in all likely hood her last real chance.

Getting beaten in an election where the plurality voted for you would be pretty bad, but demonstrated solid majorities in the popular vote, with half of any Trump presidency being lamed by 12 million strong is a small price to pay to prove Republican fears that supporting Trump hurt them in the long-run with millenials.

This is why you lot lost the election in 2018, along with governors, reps, and any chance of furthering the agenda, you no longer care that your numbers aren't growing.

Enjoy beating Hillary though.

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Getting beaten in an election where the plurality voted for you would be pretty bad, but demonstrated solid majorities in the popular vote, with half of any Trump presidency being lamed by 12 million strong is a small price to pay to prove Republican fears that supporting Trump hurt them in the long-run with millenials.

This is why you lot lost the election in 2018, along with governors, reps, and any chance of furthering the agenda, you no longer care that your numbers aren't growing.

Enjoy beating Hillary though.

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Sounds like a serious case of sour grapes. But then, I am sure you know that we do not elect presidents by popular vote. We elect them by electoral college. As for millenials? I don't worry about that. I attended two massive Trump rallies. One early in the campaign and one on his celebration tour. Better then 20,000 attended both events. At least a third of them were millenials. And I did not lose the 2018 election. I was not on the ballot.
 
Sounds like a serious case of sour grapes. But then, I am sure you know that we do not elect presidents by popular vote. We elect them by electoral college. As for millenials? I don't worry about that. I attended two massive Trump rallies. One early in the campaign and one on his celebration tour. Better then 20,000 attended both events. At least a third of them were millenials. And I did not lose the 2018 election. I was not on the ballot.

Sour grapes? I commend you for winning an election with the least votes. I laugh at the lack of foresight when Democrats are winning by 12 million one election later. What do you think happens in 2020? Republicans magically increase their numbers?

Lol.

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Sour grapes? I commend you for winning an election with the least votes. I laugh at the lack of foresight when Democrats are winning by 12 million one election later. What do you think happens in 2020? Republicans magically increase their numbers?

Lol.

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Pick up a book on American History and American government some time.Trump won where it mattered in the state to state electoral college races. There is no popular vote to win. As for 2020....I think the republicans hold onto the Senate, perhaps gain a few seats, especially if they run real conservatives. As for the House? Again, if the republicans run conservative candidates, they will be competitive there as well. The democrats tend to overplay their hand when they do win, that's why they tend to lose power soon after they gain it. Two years into the Obama Administration, they lost the House, four years later the Senate, then two years later the White House. And in the lead up to the 2018 midterms. the democrats far over played their hand with the Kavanaugh hearings as their "Abolish Ice" mantra That's why the republicans gained seats in the Senate in a race (first midterms)where the president's party typically loses seats.
 
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