Just so you know!

I am well aware that many of you think I am a far-left wing radical. Sometimes I think I am moving further to the left; however, what you have to be aware of is that I am still a moderate lefty. There are many people who are much further left than I and they are far less forgiving than I am.

I firmly believe the right has forgotten their allegiance to this country and have sold out pervert scumbags like Trump. Trump is a domestic enemy who has no use for the law or the constitution. He cares about his money and raping children. Sadly, the right-wing seems to support this and I find this despicable.

I am not shy about pointing out the failings of the right, and just so you know, I feel like it is my duty to stand up and defend my country. I took an oath when I joined the Navy in 2002. I hold that oath dear and live by it to this day. Some people say this oath is not permeant; but I disagree. A loyal American is supposed to love his country and defend it from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Just so you know, Donald Trump and the GQP are domestic enemies, and Putin is a foreign enemy. Those who would sell out their country to a child-raping traitor have lost their way and should be completely ashamed of themselves. They no longer have any honor, and they do not deserve to be called Americans.

Trump is evil, he is a thief, a liar, a pervert, and a traitor. If you can choose to support such a traitor, then you're also a traitor. Trump doesn't give a shit about any of you. He wants your money and nothing more. He stole from you, and you cheered him. He raped children, are you cheered him. Just so you know, this does not paint a very nice picture of who you are. Wake up right-winger people. Trump is scum. He is destroying this nation while he robs it blind. Stop cheering for him and start standing up for your nation and the constitution.

The GOP is no longer the party of Lincoln. It's because a retched hive and scum and villainy. Its halls are littered with dishonest, crooked, corrupt, traitorous scum. It's time for the GOP to fall and it's time for all of those in the GOP to be able to look at themselves in the mirror and decide if they can live with what they have become and who they support.

I go overboard often trying to defend my country because that is what a loyal American does. We defend our country to the death because we love this country and all it stands for. The right wing dishonored themselves and this country. It's time for that to stop. Come on GOP, find your balls, grow a spine, and work with the other side of the aisle to rid this country of the disease that is Trump.

We can bridge the gap and unify if we try but it will take an effort from both sides. We have to find common ground, and we cannot do that while some people are blindly serving a child-raping traitor. I call on all of you to remember the sacrifices made by the brave men and women of the armed forces. Many died to keep this land free. If you support Trump and his fascism, you shit on those people and their sacrifice.

My commitment to my country and to all that stands for is why I react the way I do to the mindless tripe that comes from Faux and the MAGA terrorists. I see them as the enemy of every true American. I am willing to fight to the death to preserve my country from those who would harm it. Right now, those people are MAGA terrorists, and they need to be stopped.

Just so you know, I live by a simple code, death before dishonor. A Life without honor is no life at all. Supporting Trump is living on your knees, without honor, without dignity, and without a choice. I will not do that, and neither should you.

Come on America! Find your honor and stand up.

We live in the home of the brave and if we do not stand up and defend it from scum like Trump and Vance, it will not be the land of the free very much longer.

God Bless America.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

The OP is a screed that claims patriotism but is based largely on distorted politics. I admire the feeling, but the political basis for it is misguided. My post isn't fear, it's an example of why I say he's misguided.

You think I am misguided but I am not. The GOP and its current leadership are a threat to national security. They have proven this repeatedly. Trump has broken every law he's ever come across and has no issue ignoring the judicial branch of the government. The current SCOTUS has its head rammed up Trump's ass.

If we do not stand up and stop them, we will lose our freedom. Period.

I am sorry you cannot see them for what they are.

 

[Brusan]

It's a fact that in some Asian countries cats and dogs are eaten, and he said what was reported to him about what may be happening in this country. He never said windmills cause cancer. He said, "They say windmills cause cancer." And there was a widespread theory, unproven one way or the other at the time, that some vaccines may contribute to autism. Those are the facts.

A pretzel by any other name is not a Gordian knot.

 

[RetiredAtLast]

I said it drips with fear, just like your posts about large metros, cities are frightening places where US troops need to be sent in to quell....Americans.

If you don't want to be viewed as a totalitarian, stop talking like one while supporting the fascists in the WH.

If you don't want to be viewed as ignorant, post something that makes sense

 

[RetiredAtLast]

The GOP and its current leadership are a threat to national security.

That, unfortunately, is simply a mantra that the Democrat Party put out as a "slogan of the month." The most recent threat to national security was Biden allowing people on the terrorist watch list into the country without even slowing them down at the border.

has no issue ignoring the judicial branch of the government

Another slogan. Other than the wife-beater who was sent to El Salvador, please identify any court decision that he has violated?

If we do not stand up and stop them, we will lose our freedom. Period.

Another Party slogan.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

That, unfortunately, is simply a mantra that the Democrat Party put out as a "slogan of the month." The most recent threat to national security was Biden allowing people on the terrorist watch list into the country without even slowing them down at the border.

This is not only wrong, its duck attempt.

Another slogan. Other than the wife-beater who was sent to El Salvador, please identify any court decision that he has violated?

He wasn't a wife beater. He had no criminal convictions. His deportation was illegal.

Defending Trump is a REALLY bad idea.

In an analysis of 165 court orders filed against the Trump administration, the Washington Post found that it was accused of resisting court orders in at least 57 of those cases – approximately 34 percent.

Multiple federal court judges have accused the Trump administration of deliberately defying court orders by being slow to respond, misrepresenting facts in filings, and not taking prompt action as President Donald Trump continues an unprecedented campaign to expand his executive authority.

DO NOT defend that sack of shit. EVER.

Trump team ignoring one-third of judicial rulings against them, analysis finds

Federal judges have accused the Trump administration of resisting court orders in approximately 34 percent of cases

www.independent.co.uk

Another Party slogan.

More duck tactics and bullshit.

The right is corrupt and does not follow the constitution.

Denying it doesn't change it.

 

[ataraxia]

If you don't want to be viewed as ignorant, post something that makes sense

Sounds like you want to talk about cancer causing wind turbines and autism-causing vaccines instead.

 

[RetiredAtLast]

This is not only wrong, its duck attempt.

During Biden's term some 1,600 terrorist related individual from all countries were encountered at all US borders. That doesn't count those who got through without being recognized.

He wasn't a wife beater. He had no criminal convictions. His deportation was illegal.

His wife said he beat her and she got a restraining order because of it. He was under a Final Order of Removal since 2019, with the provision that he not be deported to El Salvador. Sending him there was a mistake. Deporting him was legal.

n an analysis of 165 court orders filed against the Trump administration, the Washington Post found that it was accused of resisting court orders in at least 57 of those cases

Of course he "resisted" them. That's called 'defending against them.' That is NOT defying or ignoring them.

Multiple federal court judges have accused

Accusations by politically motivated lower court Judges aren't the same as "defying" them.

DO NOT defend that sack of shit. EVER.

Why not? It's easy to defend anyone against the lies and distortions put out by the Democrat Party and, sadly, believed and repeated by their lemmings who can't be bothered to find out anything for themselves.

More duck tactics and bullshit.

The unhappy bullshit is that most Democrats don't ever question anything the Party tells them. If the Party says Republicans are "a threat to democracy," or we "don't follow the Constitution," the faithful ones just repeat it as loudly and as often as possible, until it becomes dogma. And not one in a thousand has any idea what he's ranting about.

 

[RetiredAtLast]

Sounds like you want to talk about cancer causing wind turbines and autism-causing vaccines instead.

No, I don't want to try to discuss anything with someone who refers to "the fascists in the WH."

 

[ColdHardTruth]

During Biden's term some 1,600 terrorist related individual from all countries were encountered at all US borders. That doesn't count those who got through without being recognized.

Bullshit. Turn the Faux off.

His wife said he beat her and she got a restraining order because of it. He was under a Final Order of Removal since 2019, with the provision that he not be deported to El Salvador. Sending him there was a mistake. Deporting him was legal.

She dropped the restraining order. Deporting him was illegal. HE DID NOT BREAK THE LAW. This kind of stupidity is why the GQP gets called lawless. The GQP sees no reason to follow the law or honor the constitution and this is what makes them traitors.

Of course he "resisted" them. That's called 'defending against them.' That is NOT defying or ignoring them.

He does not get to do that. The courts told him to knock his shit off. He chose to ignore them. This is a criminal offense. Defending his behaviors is a REALLY bad thing to do.

Accusations by politically motivated lower court Judges aren't the same as "defying" them.

WRONG.

They were using their authority to stop trump from breaking the law. There is nothing political about it.

Stop spewing Faux bullshit.

Why not? It's easy to defend anyone against the lies and distortions put out by the Democrat Party and, sadly, believed and repeated by their lemmings who can't be bothered to find out anything for themselves.

More baseless babbling Faux third-reich-wing bullshit.

The unhappy bullshit is that most Democrats don't ever question anything the Party tells them. If the Party says Republicans are "a threat to democracy," or we "don't follow the Constitution," the faithful ones just repeat it as loudly and as often as possible, until it becomes dogma. And not one in a thousand has any idea what he's ranting about.

More baseless babbling Faux third-reich-wing bullshit.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

No, I don't want to try to discuss anything with someone who refers to "the fascists in the WH."

The right's problem is obvious:

 

[ataraxia]

No, I don't want to try to discuss anything with someone who refers to "the fascists in the WH."

I thought MAGA liked it when people just said it like it is. None of this touchy-feely sissy lib stuff trying to be tactful and not hurting anyone's feelings, right?

Not only is it fascism, but MAGA wouldn't have it any other way. That's exactly WHY they like it. They want a strong man in the White House, who cracks some skulls and puts women, asylum-seekers, immigrants, vulnerable minorities, and other such riffraff and garbage in their place.

U.S. Conservatives Are Uniquely Inclined Toward Right-Wing Authoritariaanism Compared to Western Peers

The Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol gave the country a striking wake-up call to the alarming rise in undemocratic behavior on the right side of the political aisle, and new global Morning Consult research underscores the prevalence of authoritarian attitudes among U.S. conservatives.

pro.morningconsult.com

 

[ColdHardTruth]

I thought MAGA liked it when people just said it like it is. None of this touchy-feely sissy lib stuff trying to be tactful and not hurting anyone's feelings, right?

Not only is it fascism, but MAGA wouldn't have it any other way. That's exactly WHY they like it. They want a strong man in the White House, who cracks some skulls and puts women, asylum-seekers, immigrants, vulnerable minorities, and other such riffraff and garbage in their place.

U.S. Conservatives Are Uniquely Inclined Toward Right-Wing Authoritariaanism Compared to Western Peers

The Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol gave the country a striking wake-up call to the alarming rise in undemocratic behavior on the right side of the political aisle, and new global Morning Consult research underscores the prevalence of authoritarian attitudes among U.S. conservatives.

pro.morningconsult.com

Which is why none of them are fit for office.

 

[RetiredAtLast]

Bullshit. Turn the Faux off.

Nope. But don't let facts get in your way.

She dropped the restraining order. Deporting him was illegal. HE DID NOT BREAK THE LAW.

She dropped it after she swore that he beat her. He was under a Final Order of Removal not because he broke the law here (except for entering the country illegally) but because he was given "due process" and the Immigration Court said to deport him as long as it wasn't to El Salvador.

He chose to ignore them. This is a criminal offense.

He did NOT ignore a single court order. And if, as you say, it's a criminal offense, why hasn't he been charged with it or at least with contempt?

They were using their authority to stop trump from breaking the law.

And then the Supreme Court slapped their hands for exceeding their authority.

More baseless babbling Faux third-reich-wing bullshit.

More Nazi bullshit. I wondered how long it would take you.

 

[RetiredAtLast]

The right's problem is obvious:

Oh, aren't you f**king clever?

 

[RetiredAtLast]

Not only is it fascism,

You wouldn't know fascism if it was engraved in your forehead.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Nope. But don't let facts get in your way.

Faux isn't facts. Faux lied to you. Faux ADMITTED they lied to you.

Rupert Murdoch says Fox stars 'endorsed' lies about 2020. He chose not to stop them​

She dropped it after she swore that he beat her. He was under a Final Order of Removal not because he broke the law here (except for entering the country illegally) but because he was given "due process" and the Immigration Court said to deport him as long as it wasn't to El Salvador.

Irrelevant. The case was dropped and he was not charged. Deporting him was illegal. He was on the asylum list and was not subject to deportation.

He did NOT ignore a single court order. And if, as you say, it's a criminal offense, why hasn't he been charged with it or at least with contempt?

Yes, he did. Lying about it doesn't change it. Turn the faux off.

And then the Supreme Court slapped their hands for exceeding their authority.

Actually, they did not. They did not exceed their authority. The SCOTUS has nothing to say about it because that authority is governed by the constitution.

More Nazi bullshit. I wondered how long it would take you.

Your surrender is accepted.

 

[ataraxia]

You wouldn't know fascism if it was engraved in your forehead.

Got it. But of course, in contrast, it seems you are very sensitive to it.

 

[RetiredAtLast]

Irrelevant. The case was dropped and he was not charged.

He did it. She swore to it. He wasn't charged with wife beating, but he had already been ordered out of the country.

He was on the asylum list and was not subject to deportation.

He had been denied asylum in 2019, appealed it and lost the appeal. His only protection was that he couldn't be deported to El Salvador.

Yes, he did. Lying about it doesn't change it.

No, he didn't, and ignorance of the language is no excuse.

Actually, they did not. They did not exceed their authority. The SCOTUS has nothing to say about it because that authority is governed by the constitution.

Apparently you don't know that all other courts are subordinate to the Supreme Court. It's in the Constitution (Article III). That's why it's called, The Supreme Court.

 

[RetiredAtLast]

Got it. But of course, in contrast, it seems you are very sensitive to it

I don't know what you think the NPI has to do with the White House or the Republican Party. But I don't think you want to start comparing far left and far right nut groups.

 

[ataraxia]

I don't know what you think the NPI has to do with the White House or the Republican Party. But I don't think you want to start comparing far left and far right nut groups.

You’re probably right, because it’s not even close- it wouldn't be a fair comparison. Far right groups are the number one domestic terror threat in this country today, by far.

Since the 1990s, far-right extremist groups have been responsible for about 490 deaths, including acts of terrorism, mass shootings, and bombings (not to mention an insurrection attempt on the American federal government). Far left groups? Zero.

Far-right violence a growing threat and law enforcement's top domestic terrorism concern

The Proud Boys played a critical part in carrying out the Jan. 6 attack, but the group is just one part of a trend of increased white supremacist and far-right violence. Top U.S. law enforcement officials say those extremist movements are the biggest domestic terrorism threat facing the country...

www.pbs.org

Trump frequently accuses the far-left of inciting violence, yet right-wing extremists have killed 329 victims in the last 25 years, while antifa members haven't killed any, according to a new study

Counter-terrorism expert Seth Jones, who helped create the dataset, told The Guardian: "Left-wing violence has not been a major terrorism threat."

www.businessinsider.com

 

[RetiredAtLast]

Since the 1990s, far-right extremist groups have been responsible for about 490 deaths, including acts of terrorism, mass shootings, and bombings (not to mention an insurrection attempt on the American federal government). Far left groups? Zero.

I'm going to discount your NPR article, for two reasons. First, NPR is notoriously biased toward the left. Second, their "expert is someone whose entire career depends on "white supremacy."

Your second article makes an interesting stretch when comparing deaths"

• "When the label was broadened from anti-fascists to left-wing violence, it found 21 victims had been killed since 2010, compared to 117 in right-wing violence in the same time period.
• Jihadist groups were responsible for 95 people's deaths since 2010."

Of the 117 deaths attributed to the right wing, 95 of them were by Jihadist groups, none of which are associated with Republican organizations. 117 total minus 95 by Jihadists equals 22, one more than those caused by the left wing. And the article had to go back about 35 years to find those.

More relevant is the left wing's incitement to violence in general and encouragement of hatred toward politicians on the right. For example, a recent study found that 55% of self-identified leftists think the assassination of Trump would be acceptable. In hyper-left New York City, a murderer who was video taped as he shot an insurance executive to death is celebrated.

It has become normal for those on the left to accuse Republicans of being "fascists," "Gestapo." "Hitler," "brown shirts," and anything else to associate Republicans with one of the most vicious killers in history. One of your number in this forum is fond of referring to "third reich" things he doesn't like. You can't be surprised by the two attempts on Trump, the attempts on a Supreme Court Justice, the beating of a GOP politician and the murder of Charlie King.

 

[ataraxia]

I'm going to discount your NPR article, for two reasons. First, NPR is notoriously biased toward the left. Second, their "expert is someone whose entire career depends on "white supremacy."

Your second article makes an interesting stretch when comparing deaths"

• "When the label was broadened from anti-fascists to left-wing violence, it found 21 victims had been killed since 2010, compared to 117 in right-wing violence in the same time period.
• Jihadist groups were responsible for 95 people's deaths since 2010."

Of the 117 deaths attributed to the right wing, 95 of them were by Jihadist groups, none of which are associated with Republican organizations. 117 total minus 95 by Jihadists equals 22, one more than those caused by the left wing. And the article had to go back about 35 years to find those.

More relevant is the left wing's incitement to violence in general and encouragement of hatred toward politicians on the right. For example, a recent study found that 55% of self-identified leftists think the assassination of Trump would be acceptable. In hyper-left New York City, a murderer who was video taped as he shot an insurance executive to death is celebrated.

It has become normal for those on the left to accuse Republicans of being "fascists," "Gestapo." "Hitler," "brown shirts," and anything else to associate Republicans with one of the most vicious killers in history. One of your number in this forum is fond of referring to "third reich" things he doesn't like. You can't be surprised by the two attempts on Trump, the attempts on a Supreme Court Justice, the beating of a GOP politician and the murder of Charlie King.

We are talking about organized left wing groups (like Antifa) vs organized rightwing groups (like Proud Boys). Feel free to find whatever sources you consider to be "objective" comparing the death rates from the two.

 

[RetiredAtLast]

We are talking about organized left wing groups (like Antifa) vs organized rightwing groups (like Proud Boys). Feel free to find whatever sources you consider to be "objective" comparing the death rates from the two.

OK. I found a BBC article with a brief description of the two. While it didn't say that The Proud Boys had killed anyone, it did say, "In late August, a self-described anti-fascist, 48-year-old Michael Reinoehl, shot and killed a supporter of Patriot Prayer, a Portland-area group that often marches with the Proud Boys."

Proud Boys and antifa - who are they and what do they want?

A guide to the fringe movements that became a debate flash point.

www.bbc.com

 

[ataraxia]

OK. I found a BBC article with a brief description of the two. While it didn't say that The Proud Boys had killed anyone, it did say, "In late August, a self-described anti-fascist, 48-year-old Michael Reinoehl, shot and killed a supporter of Patriot Prayer, a Portland-area group that often marches with the Proud Boys."

Proud Boys and antifa - who are they and what do they want?

A guide to the fringe movements that became a debate flash point.

www.bbc.com

Antifa is not any kind of coherent heirarchical organization with leadership and agendas like the rightwing groups the FBI is talking about. Saying you are Antifa is like saying you're a hippie. Donald Trump is just playing with ignorance when he says he wants to declare them a terrorist organization. You might as well be chasing after cancer causing wind turbines or something. Oh wait...

 

[RetiredAtLast]

Antifa is not any kind of coherent heirarchical organization with leadership and agendas like the rightwing groups the FBI is talking about. Saying you are Antifa is like saying you're a hippie. Donald Trump is just playing with ignorance when he says he wants to declare them a terrorist organization.

Antifa doesn't appear to have a national leadership, although it does have local chapters such as the Rose City Antifa and the Philly Antifa, some of which are associated with other organizations.