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Jussie Smollet case: Chicago prosecutors drop all charges against 'Empire' actor (1 Viewer)

Ruefully, several comments here have focused on one or another aspect of connivery being afoot rather than on the matter's lack of prosecutorial merit or innocence of the defendant. I mean, really. The charges were dismissed; this isn't a plea deal, which means Jussie can now sue the state/city for a host of things such as false arrest, slander/libel, etc.

Moreover, the case has been sealed; thus whatever evidence the Chicago PD and state's attorney gathered will never be shared/known, and the state cannot use whatever evidence it (cops and prosecutors) gathered to defend itself should Smollett file suit. That's quite a big deal legally because in some states (I don't know if IL is one of them) sealing the case effectively says:
  • The state has nothing criminally probative.
  • The defendant is innocent.
  • It'd be inappropriate to allow the information we (the state) have into the public sphere where it may do more harm than good."
Based on what I've thus far read, the immediate sealing of the Smollett case necessarily means the case was "dismissed without prejudice."

Some grounds for dismissal include:

  • lack of probable cause to arrest,
  • an improper criminal complaint or charging document,
  • an illegal stop or search,
  • lack of evidence to prove the defendant committed the crime,
  • an unavailable witness who is necessary to prove defendant committed the crime, and
  • loss of evidence necessary to prove defendant committed the crime.
According to the interview Smollett's attorney gave (~42:44 in the video below), it was not true that the $3500 Smollett paid them was for staging the attack.



I tend to doubt that if the record would remain sealed if Jussie tried to sue the city. You're presuming that the record was sealed for reasons that correctly represent the merit of the case, while I theorize that it's just part of a Big Fix.
 
What would you call it?

The state made a deal with him to dispose of the case.

Call it what you like, he was not innocent.

What "it?"

The state brought charges and later a judge dismissed them in concurrence with the state. AFAIK and based on Smollett's team having said they didn't know about the dismissal until late last night, I don't have reason they even filed a motion to dismiss. If they didn't, that means the dismissal was unilaterally undertaken by the state and people working in its judiciary and prosecutor's units.

The state appears to be citing the provisions of 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3 as the basis for their decision to dismiss the matter; however, that citation doesn't explain the immediate sealing and expungement, two additional actions to which the court and the state's attorney also agreed.

Thus as a legal matter, I might ostensible construe the matter as an application of that section of the ILCS. "Politically" speaking -- i.e., the "he said; she said" or gossip sense of the word -- that explanation gives the Chicago PD some "cover;" however, given extent of resources the Chicago PD put into the matter, I would not have expected 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3 to be offered. Deferred prosecution? Sure. Plea deal? Sure. Dismissal, sealing and expungement? No. That said, the sum the state spends to develop a case isn't a factor in whether one is eligible for 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3's terms.

Careful reading of 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3 reveals, however, that the procedure for applying 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3 requires "both the defendant and State's Attorney waive preliminary hearing pursuant to Section 109-3 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963, the court shall enter an order specifying that the proceedings shall be suspended while the defendant is participating in a Program of not less 12 months." That didn't happen. Smollett had a preliminary hearing; AFAIK, that is when he entered his not guilty plea.

So what do I call it? I call it "the state had, at best, a super thin case, and knowing so, moved for dismissal and getting $10K rather than going to trial, losing and getting no $10K." I call it "Smollett didn't want to go to trial because he can easily afford $10K and even with a not-guilty verdict, the process itself would have lasted long enough to have even more deleterious impact on his career...Getting the matter over with sooner is thus better for him, even if it cost him $10K, which for a TV celeb earning $20K per episode, is 'nothing.'"
 
I tend to doubt that if the record would remain sealed if Jussie tried to sue the city. You're presuming that the record was sealed for reasons that correctly represent the merit of the case, while I theorize that it's just part of a Big Fix.

Red:
I'm not one who hews to conspiracy theories, most especially not when it comes to matters pertaining to court proceedings pertaining to common citizens who have no public sector roles and who aren't megarich. I can speculate "'til the come home" until a matter is resolved in a court of law. Once that happens, I have to accept the facts as they are thus presented and available. At this juncture, the only available facts that matter are that the court dismissed the charges, sealed the case and expunged Smollett's record; thus no legal search will show that man was ever arrested or changed with any of the crimes that appear in the indictments.

At this point, the only thing for which there is any factual support is that whatever Smollett did or didn't do, it didn't rise to the level of being something for which he was rightly arrested charged and/or tried in a court of law.


Aside:
I have often wondered what share of folks who conjure and/or ascribe to conspiracy theories are also theist. I've wondered that because to be a theist, one must be capable of believing very strongly in something s/he absolutely and incontrovertibly cannot prove is existential.
 
This is ridiculous.

There are receipts, video footage of his buddies buying the items used in the crime, sworn affidavits from his co-conspirators... Just how does he walk away from this not even as part of a plea deal but as if it literally didn't happen (minus his $10k bond bribe). Does this mean that his co-conspirators are going to be charged with lying to the police and assault, since they are at least maintaining that it was his two (black) friends who "attacked" him?

Now Smollet gets to perpetuate his hate crime lie and now claim himself the victim of a conspiracy against him by the police, the media, his friends, etc.

I am watching the press conference now and there is no clarification.

I want to hear from the police, from the prosecutor's office. He has gotten away with a horrible crime and I want to know why.
 
It's a good ole fashioned Chicago back door payoff. In Chicago you can buy your innocence.....obviously.
 
Jussie Smollet case: Chicago prosecutors drop all charges against 'Empire' actor

In a stunning reversal, Chicago prosecutors on Tuesday dropped all charges against "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett just weeks after he was indicted on 16 felony counts for allegedly filing a false police report.


Smollett, 36, was seen arriving at a Chicago courtroom around 10:30 a.m. on Tuesday for an emergency hearing. Following his court appearance, his attorneys released a statement saying that the actor's "record has been wiped clean of the filing of this tragic complaint against him."


Jussie Smollet case: Chicago prosecutors drop all charges against '''Empire''' actor

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Looks like the entire criminal complaint was BS. Wonder who he'll sue for the damage to his reputation.

Chicago. Every crook gets to skate if he pleases the democrat mob by his crime.
 
One other thing, the FBI should investigate to see who violated who's rights. Either the police and the DA made it all up, violating Smollet's rights, or someone got paid off violating the public's rights to equal justice.

It's not fishy that they let him off, I never though they would do much to him but a token fine and a weekend entertaining kids or something, but his is actually worse. Now everyone assumes he paid off the city.

Yep. The only thing I feel confident about this case is someone is getting away with something.
 
Red:
I'm not one who hews to conspiracy theories, most especially not when it comes to matters pertaining to court proceedings pertaining to common citizens who have no public sector roles and who aren't megarich. I can speculate "'til the come home" until a matter is resolved in a court of law. Once that happens, I have to accept the facts as they are thus presented and available. At this juncture, the only available facts that matter are that the court dismissed the charges, sealed the case and expunged Smollett's record; thus no legal search will show that man was ever arrested or changed with any of the crimes that appear in the indictments.

At this point, the only thing for which there is any factual support is that whatever Smollett did or didn't do, it didn't rise to the level of being something for which he was rightly arrested charged and/or tried in a court of law.


Aside:
I have often wondered what share of folks who conjure and/or ascribe to conspiracy theories are also theist. I've wondered that because to be a theist, one must be capable of believing very strongly in something s/he absolutely and incontrovertibly cannot prove is existential.

Legal rulings are not identical to "facts," they merely show that a particular court has decided to make a particular ruling. There are numerous examples, such as the case of the Scottsboro boys, where the court's ruling was factually unjust.

So if I believe Cook County made a deal for expedient reasons, how exactly does that prove "theism" on my part? Fascinatingly irrelevant 'aside" you got there.
 
Red:
I'm not one who hews to conspiracy theories, most especially not when it comes to matters pertaining to court proceedings pertaining to common citizens who have no public sector roles and who aren't megarich. I can speculate "'til the come home" until a matter is resolved in a court of law. Once that happens, I have to accept the facts as they are thus presented and available. At this juncture, the only available facts that matter are that the court dismissed the charges, sealed the case and expunged Smollett's record; thus no legal search will show that man was ever arrested or changed with any of the crimes that appear in the indictments.

At this point, the only thing for which there is any factual support is that whatever Smollett did or didn't do, it didn't rise to the level of being something for which he was rightly arrested charged and/or tried in a court of law.


Aside:
I have often wondered what share of folks who conjure and/or ascribe to conspiracy theories are also theist. I've wondered that because to be a theist, one must be capable of believing very strongly in something s/he absolutely and incontrovertibly cannot prove is existential.


Legal rulings are not identical to "facts," they merely show that a particular court has decided to make a particular ruling. There are numerous examples, such as the case of the Scottsboro boys, where the court's ruling was factually unjust.

So if I believe Cook County made a deal for expedient reasons, how exactly does that prove "theism" on my part? Fascinatingly irrelevant 'aside" you got there.

Red:
What have you been discussing? I've been discussing what can be shown, and what therefrom can be credibly, soundly, cogently asserted as a result of either it's existentiality or deductive/inductive argumentation, not what's just or unjust. I don't care what others here think is just, nor do I think others here care what I think just or unjust.


Blue:
What on Earth are you asking about and why have you framed your inquiry about it in the context of the Smollett matter and our discussion about it? Did you not understand the meaning of the heading "aside" I placed above my "theism" comment?
 
What "it?"

The state brought charges and later a judge dismissed them in concurrence with the state. AFAIK and based on Smollett's team having said they didn't know about the dismissal until late last night, I don't have reason they even filed a motion to dismiss. If they didn't, that means the dismissal was unilaterally undertaken by the state and people working in its judiciary and prosecutor's units.

The state appears to be citing the provisions of 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3 as the basis for their decision to dismiss the matter; however, that citation doesn't explain the immediate sealing and expungement, two additional actions to which the court and the state's attorney also agreed.

Thus as a legal matter, I might ostensible construe the matter as an application of that section of the ILCS. "Politically" speaking -- i.e., the "he said; she said" or gossip sense of the word -- that explanation gives the Chicago PD some "cover;" however, given extent of resources the Chicago PD put into the matter, I would not have expected 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3 to be offered. Deferred prosecution? Sure. Plea deal? Sure. Dismissal, sealing and expungement? No. That said, the sum the state spends to develop a case isn't a factor in whether one is eligible for 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3's terms.

Careful reading of 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3 reveals, however, that the procedure for applying 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3 requires "both the defendant and State's Attorney waive preliminary hearing pursuant to Section 109-3 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963, the court shall enter an order specifying that the proceedings shall be suspended while the defendant is participating in a Program of not less 12 months." That didn't happen. Smollett had a preliminary hearing; AFAIK, that is when he entered his not guilty plea.

So what do I call it? I call it "the state had, at best, a super thin case, and knowing so, moved for dismissal and getting $10K rather than going to trial, losing and getting no $10K." I call it "Smollett didn't want to go to trial because he can easily afford $10K and even with a not-guilty verdict, the process itself would have lasted long enough to have even more deleterious impact on his career...Getting the matter over with sooner is thus better for him, even if it cost him $10K, which for a TV celeb earning $20K per episode, is 'nothing.'"

When a state goes for dismissal, they don't demand the defendant turn over his bond.

If the state thought they couldn't win the case, they drop the charges and the bond is returned to the defendant.

This is a weird case all around and the secrecy is telling.

Somebody along the lines doesn't want the public to know what happened here.

This was a plea deal, if it wasn't neither side would know what their role was in this.
 
Part I of II

When a state goes for dismissal, they don't demand the defendant turn over his bond.

If the state thought they couldn't win the case, they drop the charges and the bond is returned to the defendant.

This is a weird case all around and the secrecy is telling.

Somebody along the lines doesn't want the public to know what happened here.

This was a plea deal, if it wasn't neither side would know what their role was in this.

Before I respond to your specific elements/assertions above, I want to remind you that this case has, from its start, been one overwhelmed with multifaceted apparent rushes to judgment regarding what did/didn't happen, who did/didn't do "this or that," culpability and lack thereof, and outcomes. That presumptuousness occurred prior to the matter arriving in court. Now we have a court decision to dismiss the matter, and rather than exercising postulary prudence, learning from very recent history so as not to repeat it, people yet again hasten to conclude on what effected the outcome we today observe.

Moreover, folks are again disregarding a fundamental principle of American jurisprudence: one is innocent until, in a court of law, proven guilty. Now had the Smollett matter not arrived in a court of law, then fine, folks can, about it, natter normatively ad nauseum, but it did to to court; thus what cannot be shown based on content proffered in the court's proceedings and related laws and procedures is ingermane conjecture.

In my post to which your above post is a reply, I cited and linked-to an IL code section, and I referenced the remarks of the IL state attorney overseeing the case. I didn't proffer anything other than that the specific terms of the noted code section and the procedural facts of the case aren't a perfect fit. I suggested nothing based on that code not because I hadn't an idea (I had one the instant I finished reading the code) that reconciles that code, the prosecutor's remarks and the manifested events, but to see whether you'd apply that information in your own analysis and posit a rational resolution rather than remaining on a conspiracy-theory-style line. You didn't.

I'm sitting here saying, "X is the body of applicable extant information available to me; thus I will form my conclusion based on X." What I'm not doing, and what many others are doing, is forming my conclusion based on what I think may have happened. Why am I not doing that? Because I cannot show that what I think may have happened did happen. I don't need to compromise my credibility by proffering postulates predicated on behavior I can't show occurred or most likely occurred, no matter my suspecting that behavior occurred. In other words, I don't need to "over-work" the evidence available to me. I gain nothing by doing so.


IL code 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3, which I linked-to in my prior post, provides for dismissal of a matter provided the defendant meets certain character criteria. It appears Jussie meets them. The statute also has a procedural element that doesn't comport perfectly with the sequence of events in Smollett's case -- Jussie has pled, and the sequence seems typically to apply 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3 prior to a plea's entry. But for the sequencing, 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3 would apply, and that code section is what the state's attorney overseeing the case said was applied. That means the judge basically opted to overlook the sequencing irregularity (or it may be Jussie withdrew his plea; we don't know which) and apply 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3, thus the dismissal.

The noted code section, as the content to which I earlier linked indicates, has been applied 5000+ times. Evaluating the matter in consideration of that code section is rational, Occamesque, comports with IL law, aligns with the facts of the case, aligns with the state attorney's assertion, and bids one to neither proffer nor ascribe to conspiracy-theory-style lines of explanation.

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Part II of II

When a state goes for dismissal, they don't demand the defendant turn over his bond.

If the state thought they couldn't win the case, they drop the charges and the bond is returned to the defendant.

This is a weird case all around and the secrecy is telling.

Somebody along the lines doesn't want the public to know what happened here.

This was a plea deal, if it wasn't neither side would know what their role was in this.

Red:
I don't know whether the forfeiture was demanded or conceded to. I have seen no evidence indicating either is so. I saw one of Smollett's attorneys on TV last night (sometime after 10 p.m.), and she remarked that Jussie wanted his bond returned; however, she advised Jussie to let it go because getting it back would prolong the case's official lifespan, thus protracting the time it'd take for him to return to his life, so to speak, and because he could afford to let it go.


Blue:
Ms. Holmes asserted the state's case, which relied on the two trainers' testimony, was crumbling and she provided a couple examples of how so. (See the linked-to interview in the "red" section.) I believe her because I've seen conflicting assertions about facts of the case. For example, at one point the men were paid $3500 to assault Jussie; a few days later (I don't know exactly how many) the $3500 was for training services.

It appears Jussie gave the two trainers a check for $3500. The cops claimed the check was to stage the attack, yet the check the brothers have produced shows it was for services related to training. One can say what one wants; however, what one cannot credibly assert is that the payment was for conducting a false attack.


Pink:
Yes, it is unusual.


Tan:
The "secrecy" results from a good attorney doing her job to the best of her abilities. (See the linked-to interview in the "red" section.)
-- How Long does it take for a Record to be Sealed in Illinois?

The sealing tells me Smollett has a good attorney.


Teal:
Obviously, insofar as the state, the court and the defendant all agreed to it, the persons who want the matter sealed are those three. And frankly, they are the only ones who have a say in the matter, and the judge, not the state's attorney and not the defendant, gets to decide whether to seal the case.


Orange:
While you can say that, the fact is you also cannot show a plea agreement document that corroborates your assertion thus. Your "orange" claim is thus unfounded; it is conjecture that, absent a plea agreement, is contrary to the facts.


Brown:
I don't know what the brown clause means or implies. AFAIK, all three key players know their roles:
  • The state's attorney's role is to prove, beyond reasonable doubt, the defendant committed the crimes.
  • The defendant/defense attorney's role is to refute/rebut the prosecutor's argument and, if necessary, show reasonable dubitability regarding the verity and relevance of the prosecutor's premises and conclusion.
  • The judge's role is to grant/deny motions. The judge would have had more of a role had the matter made it to trial.


End of post pair.
 
***Breaking News***

Jussie Smollet is apparently not his Mother’s son.

So who is Jussie’s Mother?

Did he have a Mother? Or was he born in a shot glass left over from a party at “D” lister Cathy What’s her name’s House?

Maybe he dosent exist at all?
 
Update. So they assigned a special prosecutor...




And he contributed to the Kim Foxx campaign...lol.....

"Foxx’s attorney first revealed the donation to Webb, who in turn disclosed it to the court.

“On Tuesday of last week, my campaign staff notified me that Dan Webb had contributed $1,000 to my campaign in October 2016,” Foxx said in a statement. “Mr. Webb was notified that same day, and my office continues to cooperate fully with the investigation."
 

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